On June 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 12:38 pm to 12:46 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 193-018 of the White House Tapes.
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I think Crystal was the only thing you asked for.
Did you get any doctors or pharmacists, please?
Kevin Phillips called me and said he was going to send them.
Okay.
China exhibit opened in San Francisco.
More than 12,000 persons viewed it.
The largest one-day crowd they've ever had.
What are we saying?
What are we saying?
It's an exhibit of photos and gifts, you know, the China gift display.
They finally got it on the road.
They've had it here.
They've apparently had two of the three local TV stations used a good clip of the exhibit Monday night.
Chronicle and The Examiner both published stories on it.
It's on a 13-city tour now.
One more thing.
We have the Soviet exhibit also.
We will.
Bob?
No, I think we probably will.
Yes, they do.
Do it on a little different kind of basis.
Yes.
Rizzo, we worked out the invitation to Italy for him from the mayor of Rome.
And it all worked out.
And he said that he...
Doesn't think he can leave Philadelphia for any extended period during the summer, but very much appreciated your following, your remembering and following up on it all.
So we scored on that.
Oh.
Oh.
You ready?
Yeah, with whatever it's going to be, don't hurry.
Thank you.
Well, you got your hair cut now, all ready to go, huh?
All right.
Yeah.
Right.
Good.
Good.
Yeah, well...
We just continue doing what we're doing.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So we'll go ahead on that hydroelectric thing, right?
Fine.
Did the matter come up directly with regard to the possible visit of the Democratic nominee to Moscow?
The other part I was going to make is this.
Did you see this?
Not only stupid thing that McGovern should be doing in Hanoi.
Yeah, he's been surrendered in Paris.
He doesn't have to go to Hanoi to surrender.
That should be the line that you should put up to Coulson's group.
Luckily, he should be attacked if this is a shocking thing.
He doesn't have to go to Hanoi to surrender.
They've got to be in Hanoi.
That's funny for a human being.
He's still hammering hell out of them with those B-52s.
He's making the trail almost invisible.
Oh, I see.
By the way, it rained.
These people are not Superman, Henry.
They're not Superman.
Well, I wish you well on your trip to the 4-3.
Take care of your mom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, what the hell, what you do there is, you know what I mean, off the back of your hand.
Try and incidentally make our ambassador feel like bringing him to something.
Because basically he is totally going to build him up with his staff.
You know what I mean?
It's one of those things.
So if you can do that, it isn't like what the Soviet and Chinese, who we didn't want the ambassador, as well as the Soviet.
Right.
Right.
Good.
That's good.
That's good.
Well, we, uh, we're going to go forward on a very quiet basis.
I'll handle it myself.
I mean, you can just put Fort Bright off and say you can't have an answer.
I mean, did that, did you submit it to me as you were there?
And, uh, we'll, uh, we'll, because we, we can't give him
We can't give him the satisfaction of announcing it.
I have to announce it.
You mean just have that announcement later?
Before my conference.
No, no, no, I would.
But when do you want it announced on Tuesday?
Well, then it could be announced in the morning, see?
And I don't plan to have my Congress until 3 in the afternoon anyway.
See?
But I prefer it on Tuesday.
Yeah.
And it'd be good for me to come on then and announce you're going to testify and then I'll blanket it, see?
That's not... Oh, yes, I do.
I can't if I, because of the, you just don't figure that you've got, the way the Senate always plays, well, we've got to know, we've got to know three days in advance.
They don't have, they can know what one hour in advance they'll take.
And this will be, this will be 24 hours in advance.
It'll build like hell that day and then the next morning.
And, uh,
We want to get it with maximum yield, as little discussion as possible.
So it appears we have done it rather than they have forced us to do it.
We'll let them know an hour in advance if we're going to do anything else.
That's about all.
I think that's the way we want to do it, so that we are not in the position of being dragged down there.
That would be a very bad situation if we're that way.
We'll tell him exactly what he can say.
I'll probably do it in the form of a letter or something like that.
But any of that, we will now not submit the treaty until Tuesday.
Is that correct?
But we'll work on it.
Well, we hope you have a good trip, Henry.
At least I know it's going to be good, but I hope it's not too tiring.
Hi.
Bye.