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He's not very good out there.

Yes, sir, he's good.

I probably got you when you were playing tennis or something.

No, sir.

Not at all.

I got that call the following night.

No, I was on the phone.

I thought you were probably doing everything.

Right.

No.

So, hopefully that became up here.

Correctly.

So, better get a little bit of sun.

I told you before, it's better to come any place for a day.

That's good.

That's a good one, not a place for three days.

Yep.

Now that's...

I don't know, I was arguing for it just to get you further away, but you really, you don't need it.

When you get up here, you're as far away as if you were in Moscow.

That's absolutely true.

and yet you have the advantage of you can like whisk Henry up for a couple hours or anything like that so that you can maintain a, you certainly have an advantage of having him, well, you can whisk him up for a couple hours, but you can do that on the floor too.

And you make, I don't know if you want to make this,

but out of here you can make news out of here in a different way though i mean henry coming up you've done so much out of here that nobody can ever they figured something might be up when you're here they immediately now they start figuring what it is what you're what you may be up to because uh you've come quietly up here and locked several bombs out of here

There's no, that's, we're, we've got that so solidly locked now, though, either Florida or California or here, that they're working spots.

We've made news out of all of them.

And we use them all, and it's good.

Oh, true.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

It's up in another hour or so.

This is great.

First Mondays.

I'd like to see the Soviet trip.

The whole text up there in the front box was just usually do in there, but I think it was good in this case.

A lot of good pictures too.

Great pictures of Pat with the spread on her.

Those things are almost souvenir items.

They're so good, the pictures and stuff.

They're a thing that a lot of people keep.

I wonder what we get around to get them around.

They've run an insert in that.

I selected in there a little order form for a special pre-publication offer on the Ion Mix and Julie's book.

picture books and a little coupon that they had, an envelope thing, like they put in a news magazine or something on it, so people can order hooties sent to Republican women and things like that.

Yeah, but they go, it goes much broader than that.

It goes to our entire support list, which is all the people that have written in.

supporting, indicating support.

Are we working, are we doing an adequate job of working over the mail, for example, looking over vector pay?

That's, you know, I told you it was an enormously important and valuable list.

Yeah, we're computerizing all of that so that we've got classified, we've got where we can by types of people, and then, of course, by area and all that so that we can

get back to them by mail on a local basis.

We've got something like 300,000 identified supporters through the mail from those various things.

A lot of those are repeats.

There must be more than that.

You pick up all the stuff as well.

So that's the ones where we know, where they say specifically they support the President.

As contrasted to ones who comment on something or thank you for, uh... TMI.

They supported the trip.

Russia supported the trip.

China supported the trip.

I think they should be on that list even though they don't say they're going to support you for a while.

Oh, no, they are.

That's right.

It's not on the basis of support for election.

It's on the basis of support for a position or a move that you make congratulating you on a speech.

Did you know that Stockholm conference crash didn't lose at all?

The only news it's made is...

The only news it's made was when that goddamn prime minister of Sweden marched in and said that the U.S. was polluting the environment in Vietnam.

Yeah.

The State Department did.

They just whacked him hard.

They were shocked.

This is a

terrible distortion of the purpose of the conference.

They couldn't believe that he would have, you know, it was quite a, quite a blind spot.

Oh, did we, did we have an ambassador there?

No, he's still there.

I mean, he's still the ambassador.

He's not there at the moment.

He's here getting on Area 3.

I don't want the ambassador.

Let's assign him someplace else.

I'm just never going to find his suite.

Assign Holland, give him another post, and then just leave the charge A.

He won't bother with it for a while.

It's good of me to have that brief examiner anyway.

The call has been there long enough that it's punishment enough.

Give him another good post.

And we just leave the charge here and there.

What I wanted to go over, what did you say, John Redman is back today?

He gets back at about 4.30.

I think that would be 9.30 at night his time.

If you want to get together with him, the thing to do would be to have him come up tomorrow.

I saw him going back at the time.

Well that's typical because everybody there is domestic regular sharing.

I think we fought that group directly.

I want to talk to John a little about it when he gets back, but I just can't see my going around the country now, you know, talking about radical sharing, for example, which is falling.

It's not falling flat as fast as it should.

It just...

No, I don't see any merit to it at all.

If you're going to turn to domestic issues, any domestic issue, you ought to turn to some dramatic crusade on dope or... or some... Something on the spending problem.

Spending tax and all that, or some non-inflation, if you know something about that.

Nobody's going to listen to you or care.

What really gets back to this is the positive domestic issues and the negative domestic issues.

And I really think that on the positive domestic issues, we've made our record.

And so you'll have Ron again, and both of you, and Rickinson, and the rest go around, Mitch, and you'll know about those same things.

And Martin, you'll know about the environment, the parks, and all that.

People, Bob, are taking in on the environment issue, they really do.

because of its very high and divisible support by the fanatics.

And the people just got the impression that it's an old man country, you know what I mean?

I think we've been taken on a different extent.

They're rushing around, you know, they're bringing us in.

Parking hills are today or something.

That's fine.

What I'm getting at is that for us to...

I just don't think that it's worth a hell of a lot of spending of money to put it that way.

If you need those, it's what you ought to spend.

No, I was referring, frankly, more to the water bill when it comes up.

Yeah.

The water bill.

Things like that.

Also, there's a tariff order on the floor.

We're not going to put $115,000 in on our work on August 1st.

Now, that is just silly.

It's going to be stopped if we have to keep Ronald's house out of the job.

I mean, it's going to be stopped.

It's just funny.

They do want to tear down the structure.

just right absolutely now with regard to the

I don't think it's that necessary.

I don't think it's as hard to understand as Rostow thinks it is.

What I mean is that

Well, plus the fact that people don't want to understand it.

They always want to be told, this is what we should do.

That's right, that's right.

And the spectacle of the President of the United States being able to go to an inquisition on that content committee of traditions, they would use it for that purpose too.

Yeah.

And you're not in a position to do that.

hedge an answer or anything like that.

Henry can do a lot of things, turn things around that you couldn't do.

I would have to be very more private, candid about this and that and the other thing.

Every statement would be... No, it was just that, it was the thing to...

But I think on the other hand, Henry thinks that it's an option to compromise the center.

whether, for instance, if we lose the busing thing, which we may, in any other sense, get ready for your constitutional amendment, determine whether you're going to come out at any point on it because we haven't signed this bill yet.

Well, yeah, except I took issue with Jonathan's thing.

But now, the latest thing is that the bill is going to come through without the busing.

There's something about that.

I'm close to the swine who said that at their meeting.

I've got to sign the goddamn thing.

Is the wrong group to be figuring that out?

I don't know.

It's a problem with me.

I'm not born in a higher education building.

As long as you build.

I'm going to try to sneak the higher education bill stripped of the anti-busing provisions through the House Thursday.

...reform thing, what you, you know, have that figured out, just what, what the position is.

And now, the story now is the plan on the deadline is to hold it, leave it at $4.50.

and extend it only to October.

So as to force you to go back in October for another increase.

And at that time, try to throw tax reform in.

Lob it into the middle of the campaign.

That's what Mills is all about.

It is, that is, Mills apparently has somebody, Mills is, is uh,

Let's figure it out early.

We ought to decide this afternoon.

Oh, I don't know.

We ought to let them know.

I got it.

I can tell them.

Yeah.

I can tell them.

Okay.

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