Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 194 › Conversation 194-022

Nixon, Eisenhower & Tkach on Camp David and White House Physician

Saturday, June 24, 1972 · 9:30 PM–6:10 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 6 min

ParticipantsEisenhower, Julie Nixon; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Tkach, Walter R.Conversation194-022 on Tape 194 (tape position 03:40:56–03:50:35)StartSaturday, June 24, 1972 at 9:30 PMEndSunday, June 25, 1972 at 6:10 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 194-022 ↗

Julie Nixon Eisenhower and First Lady Pat Nixon met with White House physician Walter R. Tkach at the Aspen Lodge in Camp David. The discussion, which took place during a weekend retreat, involved personal matters and medical considerations regarding the First Family. Due to the withdrawal of specific segments, the conversation details remain limited to the social and personal interactions of the participants during their stay.

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Julie Nixon Eisenhower, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Walter R. Tkach met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:30 pm on June 24, 1972 and 6:10 pm on June 25, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 194-022 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 194-22

Date: Unknown between June 24 and 25, 1972
Time: Unknown between 9:30 pm, June 24, 1972 and 6:10 pm, June 25, 1972
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Julie Nixon Eisenhower met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 5/21/2019.
Segment will remain closed.]
[Personal Returnable]
[194-022-w001]
[Duration: 5m 45s]

Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked with Gen. Walter R. Tkach at an unknown time.

[Conversation No. 194-022a]

[End of telephone conversation]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Julie Eisenhower and Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 6:10 pm, June 25, 1972.
  • 194-021 9:30 PM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:30 pm and 10:37 pm.
  • 194-023 9:30 PM · 1 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:30 pm on June 24, 1972 and 6:10 pm on June 25, 1972.
  • 194-024 10:30 AM · 40 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 6:10 pm.
  • 194-025 10:30 AM · 46 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 6:10 pm.
  • 194-026 10:30 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 6:10 pm.
  • 194-027 10:30 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 6:10 pm.
  • 194-028 5:15 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:15 pm and 6:10 pm.

Conversation 194-022, June 25, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/194-022 (accessed October 12, 2026).