Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 195 › Conversation 195-017

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Camp David

Thursday, June 29, 1972 · 1:43 PM–11:59 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 2 min

Participants[Unknown person(s)]Conversation195-017 on Tape 195 (tape position 01:16:20–01:18:37)StartThursday, June 29, 1972 at 1:43 PMEndThursday, June 29, 1972 at 11:59 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 195-017 ↗

This recording captures an unidentified meeting held at the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David. Due to the lack of available transcripts and the unintelligible nature of the audio, the specific participants and topics of discussion remain unconfirmed. The recording ends abruptly while the conversation is still in progress, providing no record of definitive decisions or action items.

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Position in tape: 01:16:20 – 01:18:37

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On June 29, 1972, unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 195-017 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 195-17

Date: June 29, 1972
Time: Unknown after 1:43 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Unknown persons entered.

     [Unintelligible]

The recording was cut off while the conversation was in progress.
  • 135-009 1:43 PM · 5 sec — unknown person(s) and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 135-010 1:43 PM · 33 sec — unknown person(s) and the White House operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 135-011 1:43 PM · 41 sec — unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 135-012 1:43 PM · 1 min — unknown person(s) and Frank A. Sisco talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 135-013 1:43 PM · 46 sec — unknown person(s) and the White House operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 135-014 1:43 PM · 44 sec — Frank A. Sisco, San Clemente operator, and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 195-015 1:43 PM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 1:57 pm.
  • 195-016 1:43 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 1:57 pm.

Conversation 195-017, June 29, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/195-017 (accessed October 12, 2026).