Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 195 › Conversation 195-016

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Camp David

Thursday, June 29, 1972 · 1:43 PM–1:57 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)]Conversation195-016 on Tape 195 (tape position 01:15:20–01:16:20)StartThursday, June 29, 1972 at 1:43 PMEndThursday, June 29, 1972 at 1:57 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 195-016 ↗

President Nixon held a brief, private meeting at the Aspen Lodge in Camp David with an unidentified individual. Given the lack of a transcript or record of the discussion, the specific subject matter and any resulting policy decisions remain historically inaccessible. The nature of this interaction suggests a confidential or informal exchange occurring within the secluded environment of the presidential retreat.

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On June 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 1:57 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 195-016 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 195-16

Date: June 29, 1972
Time: Unknown between 1:43 and 1:57 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with an unknown person.

     Acknowledgement
  • 135-009 1:43 PM · 5 sec — unknown person(s) and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 135-010 1:43 PM · 33 sec — unknown person(s) and the White House operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 135-011 1:43 PM · 41 sec — unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 135-012 1:43 PM · 1 min — unknown person(s) and Frank A. Sisco talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 135-013 1:43 PM · 46 sec — unknown person(s) and the White House operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 135-014 1:43 PM · 44 sec — Frank A. Sisco, San Clemente operator, and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 195-015 1:43 PM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 1:57 pm.
  • 195-017 1:43 PM · 2 min — unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:43 pm and 11:59 pm.

Conversation 195-016, June 29, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/195-016 (accessed October 12, 2026).