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Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on White House renovations and Family affairs

Thursday, November 16, 1972 · 1:51 PM–1:57 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 5 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation225-035 on Tape 225StartThursday, November 16, 1972 at 1:51 PMEndThursday, November 16, 1972 at 1:57 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 225-035 ↗

President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, met at Camp David to discuss personal matters and White House residential improvements. The President encouraged Julie to spend money on clothing as an inaugural gift and sought her input on redecorating an upstairs room to create a more functional, comfortable family sitting area. Additionally, they touched upon the progress of a new pool project and the search for missing personal items.

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You never got a lot of work today.
It is, it got a little cold, not bad, it's clear though, it's clear, and I've been very physically active yesterday, had coffee today, and getting things sort of straightened out and lined up and everything.
And everything is fine.
I was so interested that they found that German Adenauer thing, your Crescent, you know.
Yeah.
Well, that's it.
Manoah, that brought me to it.
Manoah said that he had searched all over.
He knew he'd packed it, so he was tickled to death because he knew that he'd packed it.
But there it is, you know, things do turn up.
I just wish somebody would ever find that painting the Russians gave me back.
You have, you feel free to go to, uh, uh, to spend a few on your clothes because we have, those are, I said to Mom here, so we have
That is an inaugural present for you anyway.
So don't worry.
Well, get enough.
Get enough.
There's money available for that purpose.
It may, there's still a pretty good chance when all the books come in.
Of course, they are not.
They're still absentees.
We may exceed, in addition to the margin, which is already bigger,
We may exceed the percentage of jobs we've got because we're now at 61,000.
We're one tenth of it by now.
Oh, yes, it's pretty much jobs.
Excuse me.
It could be.
It could be.
That's right.
Sometimes you could talk to her about it.
I know she's going to think about that chair.
I mentioned to Tricia, too, that I hoped that all three of you could take a look at that upstairs room and make that into a beautiful, comfortable room.
Yeah, rooms, rooms, rooms.
Make it a room like the kind that Bob Appel had over with pretty furniture.
Why don't you get that decorator up, you know, and decorate it properly and fix that bar so it isn't a corny, horrible looking
that you could just, you could cut off that, you don't have it sticking out in the room, but have a pleasant bar that looks pretty in the back with glasses up there and everything so that people, and then we could use it in, I go up there quite often to let the football game, you know, so I won't bother people down below, but I don't, I can't do it most of the time.
You can't cut the light off up there or anything, but that room can be sort of a second sitting room for us, and we'll use it more because the West Hall is more formal and we're there
But, you know, it is nice now.
So, I think that's something we ought to get.
Oh, B.B.
told me that they've gone forward with the pool.
And he says they're going to have it done right after next year.
And he's got everything.
It's going to be about a little bit bigger than the pool down on 360 now.
It's a little wider, that's all.
And they've got a screen with a beautiful kind of a curvature to it.
So, they're going to need to be a surprise.
She's already proved that's the kind of thing she wanted.
And then when she goes down, I'll tell you, Julia's going to make Florida for her because, you know, she loves food.
And this will be one that's got plenty of heat in it, so it can be just what you want it.
And then when she goes down, and by the time the weather's a little bit choppy outside, I'll sit her on that food.
There's a major contributor here.
Okay.
Bye.

On November 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 1:51 pm to 1:57 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 225-035 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 225-35

Date: November 16, 1972
Time: 1:51 pm - 1:57 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

[See Conversation No. 153-34]
  • 153-032 1:35 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 1:35 pm.
  • 225-033 1:35 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 1:35 pm.
  • 153-033 1:36 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 1:36 pm.
  • 225-034 1:36 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 1:36 pm.
  • 225-041 1:36 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:36 pm and 1:51 pm.
  • 153-034 1:51 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone at Camp David from 1:51 pm to 1:57 pm.
  • 153-035 1:57 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:57 pm and 2:08 pm.
  • 153-036 2:08 PM · 49 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 2:08 pm to 2:09 pm.

Conversation 225-035, November 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/225-035 (accessed October 9, 2026).