Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 227 › Conversation 227-021

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Family and Camp David

Sunday, November 19, 1972 · 1:15 PM–6:59 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 15 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation227-021 on Tape 227StartSunday, November 19, 1972 at 1:15 PMEndSunday, November 19, 1972 at 6:59 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 227-021 ↗

First Lady Pat Nixon and her daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, met privately at the Aspen Lodge in Camp David to discuss personal family matters. The interaction was brief and restricted by a withdrawn segment, indicating the discussion centered on private affairs rather than official White House policy. No significant political decisions or administrative actions resulted from this recorded exchange.

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On November 19, 1972, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 227-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 227-21

Date: November 19, 1972
Time: Unknown between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                                           Conversation No. 227-21 (cont’d)

Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon [?] met with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

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Mrs. Nixon [?] and Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 6:59 pm.
  • 155-003 1:15 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-005 1:15 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, Tricia Nixon Cox, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-006 1:15 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-007 1:15 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-008 1:15 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-009 1:15 PM · 15 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-010 1:15 PM · 15 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-011 1:15 PM · 10 sec — unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.

Conversation 227-021, November 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/227-021 (accessed October 9, 2026).