Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 194 › Conversation 194-015

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Personal Correspondence

Saturday, June 24, 1972 · 3:50 PM–4:35 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation194-015 on Tape 194 (tape position 02:39:53–02:41:40)StartSaturday, June 24, 1972 at 3:50 PMEndSaturday, June 24, 1972 at 4:35 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 194-015 ↗

First Lady Pat Nixon met with her daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, at the Aspen Lodge at Camp David. The conversation was personal in nature and included a withdrawn segment classified as personal, returnable material. No official business or substantive policy matters were recorded during this brief family interaction.

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On June 24, 1972, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:50 pm and 4:35 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 194-015 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 194-15

Date: June 24, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:50 and 4:35 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon met with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 05/20/2019.
Segment will remain closed.]
[Personal Returnable]
[194-015-w001]
[Duration: 1m 21s]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Mrs. Nixon and Julie Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 4:35 pm.
  • 134-010 2:29 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 2:29 pm and 2:45 pm.
  • 194-014 2:29 PM · 52 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Camp David operator, and Herbert Stein met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 2:29 pm to 3:50 pm.
  • 134-011 2:45 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Herbert Stein talked on the telephone at Camp David from 2:45 pm to 2:46 pm.
  • 134-012 5:50 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 5:50 pm.
  • 194-016 5:50 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 5:50 pm.
  • 194-017 5:50 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:50 pm and 5:56 pm.
  • 134-013 5:56 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 5:56 pm.
  • 134-014 5:56 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:56 pm and 7:12 pm.

Conversation 194-015, June 24, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/194-015 (accessed October 22, 2026).