Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 227 › Conversation 227-023

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Personal records

Sunday, November 19, 1972 · 1:15 PM–6:59 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 15 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation227-023 on Tape 227StartSunday, November 19, 1972 at 1:15 PMEndSunday, November 19, 1972 at 6:59 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 227-023 ↗

First Lady Pat Nixon and her daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, met privately at the Aspen Lodge in Camp David. The conversation was personal in nature, as indicated by the withdrawal of the recorded segment under the deed of gift for personal material. No official policy matters or administrative decisions were documented during this private familial engagement.

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On November 19, 1972, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 227-023 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 227-23

Date: November 19, 1972
Time: Unknown between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon [?] met with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                                           Conversation No. 227-23 (cont’d)

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Mrs. Nixon [?] and Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 6:59 pm.
  • 155-003 1:15 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-005 1:15 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, Tricia Nixon Cox, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-006 1:15 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-007 1:15 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-008 1:15 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-009 1:15 PM · 15 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-010 1:15 PM · 15 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.
  • 227-011 1:15 PM · 10 sec — unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 6:59 pm.

Conversation 227-023, November 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/227-023 (accessed October 9, 2026).