Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 214 › Conversation 214-017

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Personal records

Sunday, October 1, 1972 · 9:05 AM–4:06 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 13 sec

ParticipantsEisenhower, Julie Nixon; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation214-017 on Tape 214StartSunday, October 1, 1972 at 9:05 AMEndMonday, October 2, 1972 at 4:06 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 214-017 ↗

Julie Nixon Eisenhower and First Lady Pat Nixon met privately at the Aspen Lodge in Camp David. The discussion, which was recorded by the White House taping system, remains largely inaccessible due to the withdrawal of the conversation's content as a personal record. Consequently, no substantive policy matters or administrative decisions are available for historical analysis from this specific recording.

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Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 214-017 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 214-17

Date: Unknown between October 1 and 2, 1972
Time: Unknown between 9:05 am, October 1 and 4:06 pm, October 2, 1972
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Julie Nixon Eisenhower met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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Mrs. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 4:06 pm, October 2,
1972.
  • 214-008 9:05 AM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-009 9:05 AM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-010 9:05 AM · 9 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-011 9:05 AM · 22 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Nelson Pierce met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-012 9:05 AM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-013 9:05 AM · 9 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-014 9:05 AM · 11 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Rita Di Santis met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-015 9:05 AM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.

Conversation 214-017, October 1, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/214-017 (accessed October 12, 2026).