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Start Date: 21-Nov-1972 12:25 PM

End Date: 21-Nov-1972 12:43 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ehrlichman, John D.

Recording Device: Camp David Hard Wire

229-013.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 12:25 pm to 12:43 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 229-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 229-13

Date: November 21, 1972
Time: 12:25 pm – 12:43 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

       Second term reorganization
            -Herbert G. Klein
                  -Job offer
                        -US Information Agency [USIA]
                  -Financial situation
                  -Departure
                        -Retirement
                        -Work outside administration
                        -Age
                               -Business world
                        -Recent meeting with Haldeman
                        -Money making
                        -Justification
                               -Avoiding appearance of firing
                  -Retention
                  -Meeting with President
                  -Pressure from Haldeman

John D. Ehrlichman entered at an unknown time after 10:35 am.

       The President’s schedule
            -Nelson A. Rockefeller
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Feb.-08)

                                                               Conversation No. 229-13 (cont’d)

                    -Arrival
Ehrlichman left at an unknown time before 12:44 pm.

       Second term reorganization
            -Klein
                  -Pressure from Haldeman
                  -Retention
                        -Office
                        -Changes
                  -Departure
                        -New job
                  -Procrastination
                  -Departure
                        -Timing
                  -Recent meeting with Haldeman
                        -Retention
                        -1973 inauguration
                        -Justification
                               -Internal operations, running office
                        -Retention
                               -1973 inauguration
                                     -Editors
                  -Retention
                        -Vietnam settlement agreement
                               -Public relations [PR]
                                     -Editors in Peoria
                  -Charles W. Colson
                        -Departure
                               -Announcement
                                     -Clients
                                     -Compared to Klein
                                            -Effect on future
                  -Job offer
                        -USIA
                               -Effect on future
            -Ambassadorship to Mexico
                  -Leon Parma
                        -Background
                  -Spanish speaking ability
                        -James J. Reynolds
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Feb.-08)

                                                 Conversation No. 229-13 (cont’d)

      -Parma
            -Klein
      -Reynolds
            -Spanish speaking ability
            -Father’s residence
                   -Mexico City
-Kissinger
      -Relations with Rogers
            -Source of conflict
                   -Departures
                         -Timing
      -Departure
      -Retention
            -Conditions
      -Social life
            -Publicity
                   -Football games, theaters
                   -Signing autographs
                   -Waving to crowds
            -Status as celebrity
      -Relations with Rogers
      -Relations with Elliot L. Richardson
            -Comments to Rockefeller
      -Schedule
      -Role in ambassador selections
      -[National Security Council staff] [NSC]
            -Quality
            -Leaks
      -Role in ambassador selections
      -Activities
            -Expansion
                   -Present time compared to 1970
            -Need for restraint
                   -Negotiations
                   -Haldeman’s possible meeting with Kissinger
            -Possible meeting with Haldeman
            -Press relations
                   -Oriana Fallaci interview, November 2 and 4, 1972
                         -Reaction to article
                               -Substance
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Feb.-08)

                                                            Conversation No. 229-13 (cont’d)

                                         -Kissinger’s relations with the President
                                                -Private comments compared to public
                                                 comments
                       -Strategic arms limitation treaty [SALT] II
            -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                 -Schedule
                       -Return from Paris
                             -Victim negotiations
                 -Relations with the President

      Second term reorganization
           -Kenneth Rush
                 -Job offer
                 -State Department
                       -Under Secretary
           -State Department
                       -William J. Casey
                             -Assistant Secretary for Administration
                       -Assistant Secretary for Economic Affairs
                       -U. Alexis Johnson
                             -Ambassadorship to Japan
                                   -Kissinger
                                   -Haldeman’s forthcoming telephone call to Rogers
                                         -Johnson’s age, health
                                         -Robert S. Ingersoll
                 -Rogers
                       -Vetting candidates
                       -Under Secretary
                             -Rush
                       -Casey
                       -Administrative responsibilities
                             -Rush
                       Frank C. Carlucci

Haldeman left at 12:43 pm
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Feb.-08)