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Yeah.

Hello.

I, uh, how's the, uh, Democratic committee?

Yeah.

Aren't they voting today?

You think if they get Sprouse, I'll rehabilitate him?

Oh, really?

You still don't think so?

Are they claiming they've got a... Oh, good.

Good.

I don't care how smart he is or anything.

He's still not done.

He's from Maine.

Yeah.

He'll be able to pull the Southerners back in.

That's... Yeah.

No, no, Mitchell.

It's the South that I'm concerned about, Ed.

We've got to handle labor, and I suppose maybe he'll go for a metro ride.

Oh, not that hard right now.

Good.

Shelter, of course, is keeping very close to me, which is good.

That's one of Shelter's great services, right?

Great.

The appointment of a working man makes them think we're for the working man, isn't that it?

They talk about all the tokenism.

We appoint blacks and they don't think they're for blacks.

And Mexicans aren't for Mexicans, but a working man, by golly, that is really something.

Great.

I hope he, I hope he, he wanted our plug-in and everything.

Did he like it?

Good.

Yeah.

Alright.

Yeah.

Alright.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

61.05 for one 61.05 67.47 that's good

None of this is getting in the press yet, but I suppose that there will be a final wrap-up story someday.

How do we get that done?

But we're now reading over 47, you're pretty sure of that?

Huh?

Right.

That's good.

I think if it's holding at that 41.056, it is unchanged much from that.

Because even that, even those are minimal percentages, that's damn hard to change that down to below 41.5.

But all the states that are out, the ones you mentioned the other day, are going to help us.

Arkansas will help us.

New Jersey will help us.

What's left?

What is it?

That will help us.

well this is to be upset yeah if we go to 41.7 or 6 or something like that that's right

everything has got a surprisingly good play i didn't ever explain to but my god i mean i was amazed to see the times the post played a damn story this bastard's never gonna afford the election yeah but even the post had a good story the times led with it but uh he waited till after the election chuck

You know damn well that this was not a CDF month, but the seasoning adjustment would have helped us.

Sure.

And now they're trying to have to get well.

Oh, yes.

Well, now Brennan realizes...

You know, because, you know, when he tries to play, sometimes the line will be on a line where they're more unemployed than where he shows up.

He must have started playing that line.

It's not true.

Yeah.

I'm just a good guy for that job.

clean up because he's got to really control the bureaucracy.

I just don't know.

Or I don't want each other to job for more.

I just don't kick him upstairs.

Out, out, out.

Good.

Freak along.

Somebody in the second job is important.

That's right.

It's good news that they have come at this time.

It's giving its confidence back.

The whole McGovernites and the media that we're out of.

But we haven't talked about the biggest numbers.

What do you think about life?

And Hugh Simey, now who the hell is he going to write for?

Yeah, he'll write a column.

I mean, in front of him, the column title of a column, Watching the President.

Well, he'll get a bigger audience, I guess, in time.

Because my daughter Julie is very intelligent.

She's a vicious person.

She said, people don't realize it.

She writes now and then, but at the same time, she always has very sharp, ugly hands, and she's confident in her policy.

She is totally right.

I'm trying.

Yeah.

I'm trying.

Why'd he put it out?

Did he lose it?

Drink it!

What?

What could be affected?

Well, for God's sakes, I mean, it's never said he'd know about the Watergate case.

I want you to have a good talk with Charlie Walker now.

and just be, you know Charlie, he's a wheeler-dealer, and say, Charlie, let's talk cold turkey, and if you're going to do this and that, you can help him, because basically, you see, he is a hell of a PR type, and he can do PR stuff, and you can do, you see what I mean?

Because you may not want to, I don't know what you're going to do about your PR, whether you're going to set one up or not.

All right, well, maybe you can, maybe you can, see, Charlie's looking for young men,

Maybe you can fold in the two together.

What I mean is, let's don't have our firms fighting each other.

Let's have it working together.

See?

How do you, what do you say?

Yeah.

Good.

And also tell him, I want Charlie to know, that I didn't say this, didn't want to say it in front of Schultz, but tell him now, look, Charlie, there are some lawyers around town that, uh,

and say to John Conlon and the rest of us, the governor's line, this is another sort of thing going to get in.

And we just think that in your representation of your clients, you should not be under any illusions about the fact that this is the way it's going to work.

Don't let it make it appear that, well, they all have to come to you.

You can say that there are several other Republican law firms and so forth.

We're not as effective.

But you see, I think I don't want Charlie Walker to get in bed with Edward Williams.

I don't want him to get in bed with

with Dwight Cutler.

See my point?

Do you think he does?

We want to, the president, like you're saying, the president says that he wants to be sure that we want to help Charlie Walker all we can.

I mean, we want to be helpful and sort of, and, uh,

We all want to work together, so let's be sure to have our little kitchen cabinet outside.

Okay, good.

Right.

Yep.

Well, you'll have a little meeting, you know, and then you'll see how I can meet with a group of us.

Like, I'm not going to have to have, you know, like, let's hire you to meet.

We'll have a kitchen cabinet.

We'll have the dentist thing going here.

I mean, I really am out to see to it that this old establishment, the Clark Clippers and the Lloyd Cuthers, the Leonard Bennett Williams, that they are on the outside looking in for a change.

Julie told me that there was some sort of a study that had come out, an Ephraim-type study, that clearly demonstrated that CBS was the worst, NBC much better than CBS and ABC the best.

Is that true?

What study was that?

Accuracy of media or what?

But it did show that.

Yeah.

Oh, I know the lives, yeah.

Okay.

Good, good.

Good.

CBS, what are they doing?

Striking back, sucking around.

Hey, don't go let her back.

Don't let her back.

Stop.

Oh, yeah, she's better.

Get a punch for you.

How's it gonna happen?

What's that?

Great.

Why did he write that letter?

He said...

What was the thing?

They just picked up the fact that they were, of course, as you know, they were writing that stuff.

I'd say, what the hell is this?

Remember those precincts they'd pick out of Detroit and the rest?

Great.

But no back reporting.

Yeah.

But let me say that job is not yet done.

I want that done exhaustively and followed up so that we really destroy their credibility.

Right.

Good.

Right.

Oh, he's red.

I will feed him.

Remember, we had the big talk about McGregor to get the negative ads, more negative ads.

And also, remember, we poured him into California, Michigan, those last two years, didn't we?

Unfortunately, we didn't put him in Massachusetts.

Okay, difficult.

We didn't.

We just didn't make it worth it.

This game.

I'd say that we don't give a lot of credit to all of these crowds.

We got the most served.

We're preparing those hands.

They did it now.

But you see, this is something that...

That basically, uh, none of our people, like, uh, are very much involved in this, and, uh, there wasn't really that much funding for that sort of stuff.

He really knows, does he?

Good.

Just, uh... Yeah.

I know.

A little fine.

People around this town, too.

I think Bork's a good signal, too, I'm sure.

Do you know the beard?

Yeah.

And also, did they have the picture of the pretty Negro woman?

We made her the deputy.

She's very attractive.

Right.

I know, I know.

Well, we're going to get them on all other levels, you know.

And that'll get around.

The Hopi thing helps that way.

Okay.

The skeleton.

I'm telling her how all of us have to ram around that with Rogers today.

But I think the skeleton will be superb in that, don't you?

Unexpected.

And then we'll get out the word about the second level tanks.

Like I told them, because I've been, Malik is doing this in my direction.

I said, where the hell are these Italians?

And they said the day they found six more.

I said, okay, let's get them.

They have a bias.

I know.

but on the other hand

uh, Renniger was a perfect spot to put, put the tag in.

And Brett, on three captains.

See Ash is good, that's cause he's a very devout captain.

And we'll mark at the second level soon.

Or to the following fold.

The one thing we want to do about the Bulls and the Titans, I can't see all these in the time, but when I have the Bulls and the Titans, I go out there to come in for pictures and get those out to the press.

Sure.

Oh, you're a typical elitist.

That's right.

The press do like you, don't they?

Yeah.

That's right.

A colleague over there that's always been an actress.

Yes.

I'm a little on the worse side of the card.

I'm a little bad when you get on anything.

Hey, old guy.

What's he up to at the moment?

I see he's always in attackings.

See him now?

Uh, old Isabelli's building told me that someone at Andrew High School found a way to blame the administration for a life going down.

How the hell was that?

Well, for Christ's sake, but we didn't do anything in postal rates.

Now, what I had is... Yeah.

Yeah, I see.

Well, that's just too bad.

But that was good news.

Don't you agree?

By himself.

Without a party.

Without the media.

Without an establishment.

It should be checked.

They're too strong.

On the other hand, just let them suck around.

That's what my view is.

Never let them.

I mean, they're going to be treated coldly.

Absolutely coldly.

Interesting thing to do at the present time is to have a nice talk with him, you see.

You see, you get my point.

Just let him get around.

That's right.

Yeah, for them to say that to us, it's...

It's a way out.

We live in some way or another.

Well, they know it now.

Now that's the thing to do.

So it doesn't appear it's just ABC.

Yeah, I guess they're going to leave.

I don't know what's going on.

Whatever.

Okay.

We'll get back to CBS.

All right.

Have a good weekend.