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Conversation 258-042

TapeTape 258StartWednesday, June 23, 1971 at 2:48 PMEndWednesday, June 23, 1971 at 3:04 PMTape start time01:04:37Tape end time01:10:49ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haig, Alexander M., Jr.;  Brown, Garry E.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AudioNARA Description

On June 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and Garry E. Brown met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:48 pm to 3:04 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 258-042 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 258-42

Date: June 23, 1971
Time: 2:48 pm - 3:04 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

     Haig’s schedule

[The President talked with Garry E. Brown between 2:51 pm and 2:52 pm]

[Conversation No. 258-42A]

[See Conversation No. 5-142]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Middle East
         -Cable to Cairo
               -Department of State
               -Dr. Mahmoun Fawzi
               -William P. Rogers
               -Henry A. Kissinger
               -Effect on diplomatic process
         -US course of action
               -National Security Council [NSC] role
               -Need for time
               -Interim solutions
               -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

     Pentagon Papers
          -Effect on critics
               -Lyndon B. Johnson

     Vietnam
          -Laos
          -Role of casualties
          -Effect of action in Laos
          -Haig call to Kissinger
               -Break off of negotiations
               -Handling of press

Haig left at 3:04 pm
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Hello?
Yeah.
Hello?
to call and tell you that I heard several reports from the caucus the other day that one of the most effective talks in the whole deal was made by you on that, as you will understand.
And coming as you do with your interesting neighbor up there, I thought that took a lot of guts, and I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate it.
I hope you don't get too much flack.
Of course, as I've always often said, you're an intellectual.
They'll believe you.
Let me tell you this.
Just remember that I said on June the 23rd, you're going to look awful good next year about this issue.
And that's my job, and we're going to do it.
We're moving along.
Okay.
Bye.
Bye, Gary.
Bye.
Sir, I wanted to talk to you about the military situation.
The state has come over with the proposed cable to Cairo, which would invite the employees from Boston here to Washington, and even the Indian Secretary of Right, and Henry, of course.
I'm very concerned about this because of the overall state of play in Middle Eastern and Cairo.
into a, you know, a hard situation.
It's a common visit.
It's a common thing.
It's your competition.
uh...
Well, I think the best thing to do would be for any knowledge you have of bad people, to listen to the government, and to restrict it as to why the world is fighting this war, because it's not going to be the same.
By time, to a certain extent, it's become a vehicle of size to convey it.
It's a terrible vehicle.
This has happened as a result of the trip, but it's not one of them.
It's not another thing.
And so I have the impression, for better or worse, that we're supporting their visualization of the interim solution.
And so I look at where we're standing now, and where our state wants to go.
And I personally say this, that if we sit down, and I look at it, and I look at it from the side,
So, excuse me.
You know, I've got to go.
One other question has come up.
This staff man joined the vice president three years from now.
He called and said, hey, this is smart.
I think this paper thing is beginning to tear our college a little apart now.
It's going to tear the church apart.
Yeah, Jesus Christ, you know, to be tearing a tear out because God is...
We've got some grass, some mulch, they've got more.
They've got to be good.
One, two, three.
Staking, real, more than we expect.
We've got to be good.
Whatever work went back and forth, up and down, we've got to be good.
We haven't done that.
The only thing that we've screwed up is EC-121.
We've got to be good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm going to try to hang on now and just be eaten to death alive here on every other issue.
Would you agree to cover that point?
That's all right.
It accomplished a lot.
It at least avoided, at least for a lot of us, what happened in the press.
Harry's meeting is going to be absolutely incredible.
This is a man who has said and he believes
You would rather be right than right.
Sorry.
All right.
Good luck.
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