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Matthew, have you heard what happened to the Bird Amendment?

No.

They defeated the Fulbright Amendment.

Good Bird Amendment.

Passed the Bird Amendment.

And now, at our request, they're going to delay application of it for three months, so we just cannot use it.

They defeated the Fulbright Amendment.

Thank you.

This will put it on mute.

Yeah, that's something that anybody can see.

You know, the bird in the past, you know.

Isn't that great?

It kind of has a beautiful, you know, that mystery.

I don't understand it.

We didn't get caught in it.

I told Bill last night that we wanted to go to the coast of the Andes.

We've got to put the interest of this country and the interest of our allies above the interest of a bunch of goddamn cannibals.

And I told him that's what I was going to do.

I told him that's what I was going to do.

You know, in addition to the things that you've done, the thousands of ways in which this government would have tilted from chrome to... We have allowed this to go off-way.

You know, I talked on the helicopter last night.

I talked to you yesterday.

We talked this morning.

We're working on it.

That is the total impact.

Another thing I'm going to ask you... We are sure...

We were sure blacked out that goddamned DMV collection.

So... By the time they recover from this time, the trip...

The next one will be a hell of a bomb.

That's right after Fort Gardner's there.

And I'll be...

He changed for a while.

He said, that'll worry him.

And it'll be a good... And by the time I'm back, I don't remember there was anything.

Well, our fight is... Well, I guess I have to announce it myself.

Can I say at the end of the contract, the end of the draft, you would announce it?

Yeah, but why don't you... You've done it before.

At news time, out of all the... You've done it very well.

Yes, I'm very glad to do it this time.

I remember you made two of these announcements as ten-minute announcements.

Right.

You know, nobody really knows, Henry, though, how many of the little things were on.

I figured today you're not working on this very important phenomenon of speech.

And I'd like to call a couple of others.

I'll call Schoenberg, John H. Scherzinger, Senator Fitzgerald, on the way to today, and I'll call you.

I just sort of think, in a day, we do more things.

Well, let me put it this way.

I don't think, though, that I get to think that I should, because I think Johnson called all the time, too, but he was in every picture on the show.

I've never been a big one.

Well, he never concentrated.

What you've got to do is put aside what you want to say.

And also the way you always have a game plan.

I don't think so.

over a substantial period of time.

One thing we might do, Mr. President, is we get the China announcement, try to get that settled with Joe and I, and then we start talking to America.

He wasn't getting asked.

But the American press?

No, there was no press at that time.

He came and told them he had a 16-year-old.

Told them a lot.

Well, he said, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind, you know, I just wanted to keep in mind

Well, then at least he's written through the U.N. thing for the moment.

Well, the U.N. just said it's all unacceptable.

That's impossible.

But he smuggled it all.

He got enough to take me into the U.N. now.

That's the dramatic thing that really stands out.

That's it.

Listen, he knows the U.N. doesn't mean a goddamn thing.

Well, but we have to show him that it's what it is.

That's what he has to realize.

The Russian announcement will make it public.

He has to know that he can carry out what we promised him.

But if he doesn't, then he will start...

I mean, like on Taiwan.

No, on Taiwan, if he tries, he hasn't promised him anything.

But it is important that we can show that he doesn't.

That is important.

Because otherwise he doesn't know what we're going to carry out.

That's got to be an obstacle.

I wish you a good life, my son.

Good work, my son.

He doesn't believe this is correct.

I hope you brought that up.

I told you that as an example.

You're looking at the list of what we've come to as far as the list of what we've lost this time.

And it hasn't been won.

correct proposal on Seoul, on Berlin, on ADN, on Cambodia, everything.

And I said that he has written against it.

We are just being slapped by the Democrats.

And I said also, he's against the cabinet.

He said, that's absolutely right.

He said, this whole president, he said, anything like you have in front of your vision is true.

Truman had a lot of courage.

What Truman was, we could be dedicating credit for a certain Midwestern earthy craftiness, but Truman was not a very smart man.

He had good instincts, but Truman didn't.

Truman would no more sit down and write a speech like I do or try to think through a hell of a lot of things.

Truman was, he said,

in the sense Truman says that he had to think about it, he hasn't no decision.

He didn't have this intricate, in the way he's machined all of these moves together so that they, they follow each other.

What I told him was, I said to him, if you, if we get to China now to set it deeper, then I think you ought to make you remove this drone announcement two days before.

And then, just as they're babbling along,

Yeah, crack.

They'll be talking about something else again.

Were you able to find some little things, Stuart, about the man best qualified to go to the summit?

Did he see that?

Oh, he's a great...

I think that's a very important point.

All the way these people yack about symmetry and all the rest, and it's dangerous, and a lot of the running does, and frankly, I'm used to talking about it.

I know it's dangerous, but there comes a time, and this is it.

I don't even grab that it's dangerous in these circumstances.

It's not for me.

It's not dangerous for you.

I'm never going to lose anything.

And in the objective conditions that existed, now, Mr. President,

We have news that a license for the Soviets is on health.

Within 10 days of their offering us a son, a human is allowed.

Another thing, I don't say it's a dummy with regard to Joe in line.

He's saying that for his domestic use only, and not just the Russians.

He's probably got his hardliners that want to keep up their strength and all the rest.

Just like we've got hardliners, even more so.

And also, I think he's trying to show us that we've got a little bit of a program.

Don't beat me.

We won't do two.

I mean, what we are doing to them in the U.S. is extremely unfathomable.

But we are going to lose that one anyway.

Once we get up the old...

It would be better, frankly.

It would be better, Henry.

We would not lose.

We have to do this in order to keep our right wing under control.

you can say to the state, but you'll notice the President of the state, miles away from the Senate, when I do this, I want you to get to work and you wouldn't prepare me a brief Q&A, not too much, and all that thing, and I particularly want to prepare a picture of him, and I said, now the U.N. is in there, and I'll say it's hopeful or not, I said, it's very close, our position is known in the state, and I said, well, I said, well, another point I would just do is what's going to be, I said that

One thing about the President's target operation is that he's so low-key that he doesn't get credit if you take the 7th, September 16th press conference.

I said, all that did was to prevent him from pleading for life in Vietnam, because the situation was that they had her fucking immediately empty.

You cracked it, and that was it.

And I said, we had to have this, because the only hope that the North Vietnamese now have is

I said, we cannot let go of you.

You cannot let go of yourself.

But there's no reason for me to cannot let go of you.

Right.

That's not good.

That wasn't good enough.

That wasn't, that wasn't straight and accurate.

That was absolutely not right.

You don't have that much of something big to do, of course.

Well, you actually, well, I've always had this thought about it, that you do,

It was pretty good, but it didn't have, but also it didn't have anything particularly sad.

I was trying to get so many things to get across.

Sapphire, I talked to him.

I said, you know, we're getting, we're not mentioning for a minute, but I was trying to bring on a new

We're not just going to talk about .

We're going to talk about this.

We're living in a great, potentially, we can have a great future.

Great future.

Progress.

Progress on oil and on peace.

Well, if we can have it.

I put it that way.

I didn't say we will have it.

But anyway.

I said, you know, Bill, I said, do you realize what's going on?

I said, do you realize that, bless the God, everything else has been done?

I mean, you look at the danger points for war.

Berlin is number one.

The Mideast is number two.

And Vietnam is way down there.

There's no chance of falling.

I said, now, the Mideast could.

Berlin would.

And here we have crisis.

I said, I've been waked up several times.

by hammering a button.

Somebody in my heart screwed up the oligarch.

And here, we, for the first time, hung here.

Walls built and all the rest.

Here, he was a great entrepreneur.

I said, it was done right here in my mind.

I said, I don't want to tell you, but she said, I love you most, man.

So now it's upside down.

This is what's most important to his life.

Did he?

Yeah.

What does he say?

I didn't think they'd even say go to the river.

I think that's, uh...

I don't know if that's a good idea.

We still have on negotiating that with the president.

But I'm hoping that the president should mind his own business.

His hellish standards should mind his own business.

They should mind his own business.

There's no goddamn reason for them.

Mr. President, they've got crazy eyes to leave again.

Now they've been strengthened too.

Where the hell are they going to go?

They were hoping it would be right, right, and go with it.

But out of this, there's an old-fashioned view that there's an even-minded sense of duty to do something.

Well, they pitched about the fact that there's no opposition.

but he got 94% of the vote.

The matter is, no matter if he ripped it, it's a testimony to his strengths.

You have to be in control of the machinery to get yourself 90% of the votes like the communists.

And if they have 100% elections, what do we say?

Well, they say they're in charge.

That's my point.

It's a rather interesting point.

And he may have been right.

His enemy is not men, for he, his enemy, is the communists.

In fact, it's the communists who are not the voters, the way the voters stand in the back.

And his domestic opponents don't get enough rights to shake

So he's done what he wants.

We don't like it, but he may have done what he was told.

We have more to write each year.

I'm sure glad to hear that.

Would you mind calling Bird?

I think it's come out so well, it would be better not.

Because good is happy, then.

Good, good.

Thank you, Henry.

Henry?

Yes?

The only thing I would urge that you put your mind to is that goddamn India-Pakistan thing.

I'm having a meeting tomorrow afternoon.

And, uh, just tell them that I asked, that I was terribly concerned about it, and I didn't want to watch it.

And your sister will work with you a little more.

I'm having lunch with Cisco on Monday, and I was wondering whether you would consider meeting him on the bill.

He's telling him that he should work closely with us so that they don't go down to the bar.

I'd say, Joe, I've got tremendous pressures from the output of this, and I've got tremendous pressures from people coming in.

I want you to keep very close with us in this.

We're not going to do anything to other countries.

We just need to know what's helpful to us.

Because Stuart L. Zavosa said that he thought that drought should have reached the United States.

But the major thing now, without nitpicking around the food, is just to keep it loose long enough for us to get started with the rush.

Because then you could come out of that summit with an agreement of the Middle East.

And salt.

We don't want salt for them.

I don't think so.

I don't want salt for them.

We want salt.

We want trade.

We want the Mid-East.

For that, I think you might consider telling Rauchist that for political reasons you don't want to get the Jews all that stirred up, and you want him to slow down.

He isn't going to get anywhere anyhow.

Nothing's going to happen.