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You know, it's really stirring over there.

They've got all these people coming in for the various briefings and stuff.

It's a great idea.

It puts out a lot of appearance of action.

It is good.

Well, I agree.

That part is incredible.

I agree.

It's incredible.

Mm-hmm.

He says he didn't want to put in the letters that I picked up.

I got four letters that I found.

I regret to put in three and I added four.

But I said, Pat, Bill, and he says, I said, my two daughters are very, very happy.

Did you see that thing in the news summary of a broadcasting magazine, a study of television viewers?

They had found that almost nobody, that very few people could recall any single item that had been covered in a network newscast

later that evening.

In other words, people who had seen the network newscast in the evening, later that evening, very few could recall any one item in the newscast.

No one could recall the commentary, you know, the wrap-up editorial stuff.

And the only thing they normally would recall is something that was of interest to them or something that was the lead story, if it were particularly glorified.

Sure, it's shocking.

Like Kellogg.

But the point is, people don't get much out of what they see on television.

Except they get, again, he's a bad guy, a good guy.

But they'll remember a little story.

Those letters and stories.

A little story, you know, you remember a speech by Meg, you know, on the poor little girl, the little kid saluting her.

Yeah.

Hello.

Hello?

Where are you?

Yes.

You got a minute or it's a bad time.

In fact, I'm writing a speech and I'm delivering tonight at 7.30, so we're right in the middle of it, but it's brief, so you can listen for 14 minutes.

Can't take your retention time that long.

Don't admit it, yeah.

I was, I reached my college, as a matter of fact, I, you know, I started to read things.

I read on my way, when I was in Florida, I was over to Walker's.

I read, with great interest, you're peaceful, and you have, you know, you thought on Herrnstein's speech, you know, that I'd passed on to you.

Let me say, first of all, that nobody in the staff even knows I read it on their mind.

And nobody in this class is going to know any better, because I couldn't agree more with you on the Herrnstein stuff and all the rest.

This is knowledge.

First, nobody must think we're thinking about it.

Second, if you do find out it's correct, we must never tell anybody.

That's right.

Now, let me add a few things, and you might just take some mental notes about it, or if you want to, so I can give you my own views.

I reluctantly concluded

based at least on the evidence presently before me, and I won't base it on any scientific evidence, that what Herrnstein says, and also what was said earlier by Henson and so forth, is probably very close to the truth now.

Now, having said that, then you cover that by saying something that the races would never agree with, that within groups there are geniuses.

There are geniuses within black groups.

There are more within Asian groups.

And, incidentally, it was a rather neat trick to point out that the Asians are number one and the Caucasians are number two.

And the Eskimos are above the Mites, which is good.

And also your little deal about the different English and the Irish.

Now that is the best example of the fact this is knowledge, but it is knowledge that it is better not to know.

At least, if God would have wished we could cause another war, they'd have enough to have problems in Northern Ireland now.

And they see there are Irish geniuses.

Right, what are they?

Burke.

Yeah, they're trying to, well, Burke wasn't bad.

as some of the liberals said.

Now, so let me say that in getting this knowledge, and that's the point that I, and you're welcome to pass this on to her, but I think the reason I have to know is that as I go through programs, I must know that they have basic weaknesses.

Did you read Glazer's piece in Commentary recently?

Yeah.

And, you know, he didn't come out against Batman's assistance, but he just created a hell of a lot of questions.

But Wells already got into the art of his work and so forth and so on.

But you respect Blazer, don't you?

Yeah.

Well, Tom, I read his piece, too, and I...

But what he meant, though, but what he meant, what was interesting to me was that he said that even in Sweden,

the ultimate example, and in Britain, the less ultimate example, that they still have a tremendous emphasis on the work ethic.

In other words, that they're going on well where there's so many things people ought to do.

Now, that is, of course, the reason why the work requirements are so important here.

I mean, everybody says, well, what are the work requirements for making these poor colored women, you know, who can't work because the little baby's coming every month, or at least every nine months, I believe.

Anyway, whatever the case is, you can't make them work.

Now, that isn't it.

The whole point is that

Well, now, coming on to the other points.

On the other hand side, and here's where I think we have to learn, we've got to realize on families, on anything we do, the limits of social policy.

If we don't, we're going to raise expectations and then have to build, that was the problem with Johnson.

Johnson's, he took your Howard University speech, he carried that along, but I really don't, and I don't think he did it deliberately.

I think Johnson probably convinced himself all this doesn't work.

You agree?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now, coming to the other point, I have a couple of questions.

Has Coleman demonstrated the fact that where you put blacks

Or for that matter, the undergraded Chicago or anybody else, blacks in with whites integrated, that it raises the blacks and does not bring down the whites.

Is that clear?

Or now, now the second point I raised then, and I raised this one, this is really getting at the nerve center.

Is this true when you have an integrated faculty?

Now let's suppose, let's take for example where my daughter is teaching.

Let's suppose Pat that you've got a black, graduated from a good black college and is teaching English.

Now do you believe that she can teach English?

I don't know, I'm not, I just don't know.

Yeah, yeah.

I see the kids teach the kids.

Well, maybe what you've got to do, though, is if you're going to have incompetent teachers, you should go for more television aid and all that sort of stuff.

No.

Pretty great if it was the bright kids.

Yeah, that's right.

That's why they, that's why they're in the north, where, as you know now, those, the astounding statistics where, as a result of what we, the agony, that 38, 38 percent of all black children in the south go to majority white schools, 28 percent of all black children in the north go to majority white.

Now, that is a hell of an indictment.

That's right.

Now, I'm coming on to a few things that

Also, with regard to your theories, I've noticed that none of you have used this, and I'm not getting into what Ed has said about black leaders because of this sense of war.

I had in mind one fact.

Did you realize there is not, out of the 40 or 45 here at the United Nations, black countries that are represented there?

Not one.

as a president, or a crime minister, who is there as a result of a contested election, as we were doing on Vietnam.

There aren't any.

I mean, Liberia, now that's ours.

We've got 150 years.

How the hell is that?

No, Tauber is the son-in-law of the other boss.

He's an awful nice fellow.

And then I was looking at Mobutu in the Congo, Kenyatta, all of their leaders back then.

Now, let's take Haiti.

Now, what I'm not simply saying now is that I'm not saying blacks cannot govern.

I am saying, they have a total of five.

Now that must demonstrate something.

Now, having said that, let's look at Latin America.

Latin America's had 150 years of trying at it.

They don't have much going down there either.

Mexico is the one party government.

Colombia, they traded, everyone traded on there for two years.

Venezuela has 50 total.

The rest are dictatorships except for a yagi, which is a communist dictatorship.

A leftist, a communist.

Now, let me come back to another point.

Within that scheme, there's this thought, and I think you might want to lose a piece on this sometime.

It's my, I think you may have heard me tell my conversation with the Mooney's Marine, who I put down, who was capable of hunting.

You know, I think he was thinking about it.

And I'm 58, I have to believe I'm incorrect, so I stopped there.

And he and I talked all night, and he'd bring me scotch, and all night, and we really lived it up.

And I tried to keep up with him, and perhaps we did.

But he made a very interesting point very late, early in the very morning hour.

He said, look, he said, I shouldn't say this.

He said, but Mr. Vice President, my people have many fine qualities.

I mean, they're courteous, they're good men, and they are, you know, philosophy, et cetera.

But he said, I will not do that.

My people, being a lax penalty, have never been very good at government.

Now, let's look at that.

The Italians aren't any good at government.

The Spanish aren't any good at government.

The French have had a hell of a time, and they're half left.

And all of Latin America is not any good at government.

They either go to one extreme or the other.

It's either a family, well, the three, family oligarchy, or a dictatorship, or a dictatorship on the right, or one on the left.

Very slow in the center.

Now, having said all that,

However, if you compare the Latin dictatorships, governments, et cetera, and their forms of government, they are, they at least do it their way, in an orderly way, which works relatively well.

They have been able to run the damn place.

Looking at the black,

Of course, they're only two old ones.

Haiti is an old one.

And Liberia is a very old one.

Ethiopia is a very old one.

But they have a hell of a time on their plates.

Now, you look at Asia, you can say, well, what about out there?

We don't have democracies.

Of course, you know, we've got Japan, where we go to the Philippines, and it's a hell of a mess.

But on the other hand, Thailand, with its oligarchy, has the right kind of a government in Thailand.

And we have to say, too, that Iran,

with the benevolent Shah, with the benevolent Shah, that's the right thing for those folks.

Now you think, now what I'm getting back a long way around is this, I think something, I think something could be, that eventually gonna come out here is this, that in this right beneath the surface of those black-white dealers gonna come out with that, that Asians are capable of governing themselves one way or another.

We, Caucasians, have learned it after slaughtering each other in religious wars and other wars for many, many years, including a couple in the last two centuries.

The Latins do it in a miserable way, but they do it.

But the Africans just can't run things.

Now, this is a very, very fundamental point.

In the international sense, see my point?

Well, yeah, of course you do.

You see them.

You know, I have mixed feelings.

I receive their ambassadors, they change all the time.

I love them.

They're so kind and so nice.

And they're children.

Children.

Huh?

Oh, God, yes, they are.

What can you do?

I know, but what I meant is it's so childlike.

The childlike faith and this and that.

And of course, a lot of them are crooks, but we have crooks too.

But anyway, what I'm getting at is, I think you've got a field of business you've got to do with education resources.

But there are many other areas, as you probably know, where they can beat the hell out of us.

Now, and they should be proud of it, that athletics isn't a bad achievement.

And you look at the World Series, for God's sakes, and what would either of these teams have done without, what would Pittsburgh be without a hell of a lot of rocks?

And then music.

The dance, uh, now, and these things, are they, are they to be, therefore, just pissed upon?

Hell no.

Therefore, and also, also, in certain areas, poetry, et cetera, that they, they have a free and easy style that creates, uh, adds enormously to our culture.

But on the other hand, when you get to some of the more, shall we say, some of the more, uh,

profound, rigid disciplines, basically, they have a hell of a time making it.

You may, and Ed Brook, for example, is an exception.

We've got to face him in terms of good lawyers.

There are a dang-dang few good lawyers among any group, but in terms of good lawyers, even though a lot of their law schools, I mean, it is not really their dish of tea.

See?

Now there's, that's a fact.

which we've got broken we've got that fellow they have an equal opportunity but on the other hand they have they have the stuff your culture three tests are very interesting to me that as i understand it is basically an iq test but which which basically

It doesn't require you to know a damn thing before you take it.

Well, that's good.

It's the only, the only, yeah, the only fair kind of test.

Now, let me tell you what my theory is after all this.

My theory is the responsibility of a present.

My present is that you first used to know these things.

But also, but also my theory is that I must do everything that I possibly can to deny it.

To deny it.

Because you could, you cannot tell.

Here was, let me say, here was my quarrel with Muskie and the Vice President.

And I didn't quarrel with him.

I refused to comment.

I said what I said.

I said I didn't repeat what I said in 1968 when I was commenting on progress.

I said you can be the next president.

My theory is this.

If you look, if you are to look cynic,

and a coal in debt that is absolutely primal, as to whether or not a black would or would not add to the ticket, you might well mind that a black would subtract.

But no leader must ever say that, because if he says that,

He is condemning a great segment of the population.

He shouldn't say that no Jew, now I think he could make a hell of a case that a Jew, not one like Goldwater, who's basically a Gentile, I mean by religion, but a Jew might be trapped.

There are so many, so many people, but nobody must ever say that.

You must not say that a Catholic would hurt you in Oklahoma.

You must not say that.

Here's the point that I make is,

We have to realize it, because if we do not, if we do not, we are going to, we're going to encourage what is a great prejudice among all of us.

See, you must not, in other words, it's the unthinkable.

Do you agree with me?

And when somebody says, well, it's honest to get up and say, well, sure, a black should be of any, to hell with honest.

Yeah.

You take, for example, a woman on the Supreme Court.

Now, if you were to poll the people in this country, all the people, a great majority would be against the woman on the Court.

They would have much confidence in her.

However, among women, there's a hell of a feeling that there should be one.

My point is, no one should ever say that a woman should not be on the Supreme Court.

Correct?

So you see what I'm getting at is that we're on exactly the same wavelength.

I'm putting it out all over this place that we have got to proceed on the assumption, not that everybody is equal, but that everybody should have an equal opportunity and that anybody might go to the top.

And God knows he might.

A brook could, you know.

See?

All right.

But I've already had Hoffman down.

Munch, the Medal of Freedom.

I think Munch has it.

See, he got an Nobel Prize.

I'll check it out.

I'll check it out, I'll check it out to see.

I think, and I think Hoffman has it, but I'll check with Munch on it.

Yeah, it'll be very easy.

Very easy.

And if we don't give him mental freedom, we can just get him down.

Thank you.

Too sick?

Is he in the hospital?

Yeah, I know.

Yeah.

Well, we went out and gave one to Sam Goldman.

Yeah.

Just for my own information.

be sure you hear be sure though it's just for balance and i have the next feeling sure you don't get it just from the indians they're terrific salesmen because they are we are we are they're blowing up the damn boats and everything and uh but but i'd love to talk about it now let me come before we come to the budget on the legislative program the national institute is in

I mean, what I meant is, I raised that question to when we met with the education leaders the other day, and said we got it.

I don't know when it's gonna come in, but it did.

Yeah, yeah.

But to the Office of Child Development, I'd like for you to give a kick.

I mean, I'd like for you, if you would, to give Elliot a call.

And also give Marlon, my fellow, a call.

Tell him that I was talking with you and said what the hell became of the first five years of law.

You just tell him to call.

And then they'll have to worry.

That was fair enough.

Third, on the secondary school education, we spent half of our time in our meeting with educators on that.

The most profound thing you say in there is that the one job we do worse in this country is turn boys into men.

We've got to connect up the world of school with the world of work.

We've got to get through that one line.

We have got to connect up the world of school with the world of work, and high school is where we do it.

Now we just have one hell of a time here that everybody's going to college and we're running out of areas with PhDs and this and that and the other thing.

And everybody wants to work and I know.

I'm trying.

You know what I mean on this whole business of email work and so forth.

I just, Bob Roman told me about a plumber and he says,

Joe Johnson, he works four days a week.

He makes $30,000 a year.

I mean, he takes off a month in the winter and a month in the summer.

And he has no responsibilities, whatever.

What the hell now, just to make the goddamn toilet flush, that's not bad, huh?

That's right.

The secondary schools, the work thing, I know he agreed to it, but the secondary school thing is a perk for the reason that the educators came down and kind of gave him a map, and he had it all written.

All they talked about was more money.

They didn't talk about, they worked for the institutes, but more money, and they didn't talk enough about this whole whole thing.

The word vocational I know is a bad word, but they do not.

They don't want that because the masters don't teach it anymore.

They don't even teach hygiene anymore.

Yeah.

Now they have got to start teaching that.

And, you know, Finch was, that was one of his major contributions.

He gave that a hell of a kick, and he asked, and we got a few junior counties, but would you tell, tell, tell Marlin and the rest that I am very disturbed about the fact that we are going hog wild on education, and, you know, we're going to put a lot more in it.

There's a big lobby in the red.

But...

What in the hell are we doing?

The right to rethink, for example.

And that's terribly important.

But when we really come down to it, what are we doing in the high schools with the great majority of our kids who basically do not have what it takes, and will never have it, to sit behind desks?

Now, all you do is to destroy those kids, and so they go undone.

Sure, and they'll love and be proud of it.

Be proud of it.

All right.

Yeah.

It may be too late.

Why don't you come down in a month after the U.N. session?

I don't know.

December's a good time.

December or November, if you've got thoughts, come down in November.

That may be better.

We've got to help Bob, and also we've got to get Henry in this, because he's very close to the fact that the ambassador, and the Indian ambassador, and we're working like hell on that.

You know, we put in $250 million more, but that isn't going to do it.

It'll feed them.

It'll feed them, yeah.

Well, I'm fine, I'm fine, and we're working on a lot of things, and incidentally, some developments next week may be a very, very interesting show.

Yeah, okay.

How do you like what you're doing?

Yeah, sure, great.

Isn't that a goddamn shame?

Okay.

All right.

Okay, a little bit of an effort.

I have a letter I want you to read.

I've read it.

He sent it to me and asked that I could get it back from you, because he doesn't want it knocking around anywhere.

It just proves.

That conversation, thank you, you covered it.

I covered stuff about the black countries and the rest, and a lot of people are not realizing this goddamn black thing is...

Well, that's what they're starting to point out, is that IQ...

This guy makes the point to some extent, starting with a seminal piece in that, where he points out that IQ is pretty provably a basic essential for success, but in no way a guarantee of success.

I think I was very, very, very lucky to serve in the United States.

I was a slave, and I had to give up my career to serve in the United States, and I was determined to serve in the United States.

The Navy didn't give me the chance to serve in the Navy until I was in the United States.

It was horrible to serve in the United States, because I couldn't afford to have access to

I got through the pit.

But you know, I didn't.

But I know that it wasn't through probably about 25, 24 or whatever time.

Well, the interesting thing was that if I had been treated well, it would have been a great, very high, in a way that the bastards would have made me stay for one second each.

But as it was, they offered to see the, they offered to see, they offered to answer for the, for the same thing, intelligence, which is, which doesn't matter.

I said, how long do I want to do that?

I'm not going to do that.

He said, I, he stated, we've gone down once.

He said, I'm very close to that.

That's what they did with the high IQs, and kept them at each, at the set amount that we killed.

The factors, of course, that have to be taken into account by any kind of attorney.

Oh yeah, how are you going to do that on him?

You know?

Yeah, that's, so you're going to get aberrations, very specific aberrations.

The way you want to do it, I think, is the way you're going to improve an average amount.

Well, of course they do pretty much everything they do now with kids because I think they give them an IQ every year.

They take some battery tests every year and I think they probably...

I don't know how people get through them.

I don't know.

You've got to be 700 or 800 or something like that.

I know one of the kids up here was pregnant.

But those aren't fair here.

Carl was under his supervotate test, and he doesn't get any good grades in school, so he gets those college boards, he got super scores, but he didn't like it at all.

He always likes to study, but only a certain, he doesn't like birthday, he's going around with things he doesn't,

Incidentally, I noticed that they've begun to put out the story on Phoebe, Mr. Phoebe, who's the gear handling that I trust with Cole, Christine, or however they have it.

Yeah, but it hasn't created much of a stir so far.

It's a, that first shot at least is a complete dud, because they're trying to make a big thing out of it.

So what did it happen?

I don't know, whenever he said that, in 69.

What a piece of concrete.

He sold it.

He sold the...

That key, what was it, some key?

I don't know.

That was where the global club was, I guess, yeah.

God almighty, they're a problem, as you see.

They can't tie me to a goddamn thing.

Because I'm not any of the Eagles.

Of course not.

But the closest they've come is, the only way they've gotten anything on that one at least, and that's their opening shot, which I would assume is their biggest one.

is that he sold it, he and his partner sold it to the government for 550,000, which was the appraised value, or very close to the appraised value.

And they're buying us back because other people, the Corps of Engineers was around buying other land privately and was getting it for something less than the appraised value.

Those guys would never have sold it for a million.

You know what I mean?

He's never condemned the goddamn thing.

For a part.

Oh, well, that's what it is.

But anyway, he mentioned that the fur guy who goes in never has asked for anything.

He has never brewed or sold anything.

He's employed all the time.

He has never asked for an introduction.

He never goes and sees anybody.

He's never done one thing.

Right there.

I'm pretty much coming out with them.

They're finding a lot of stuff that they're not smathers.

Well, smathers, I know they're coming up with some problems there.

What they're trying to do is tie BB to you, then tie BB to smathers, and then smathers is what it looks like.

And I bought my house with smathers.

I bought my house with smathers.

Now, that's a hell of a thing to do.

He bought the goddamn house because he got a divorce.

They should point out, too.

And paid the market price for it.

And good price.

Well, that's Trump, isn't it?

The way we live, we're so goddamn terrible.

They must have spent, he said that he was going to spend $43,000 on this for us so far.

Well, they said they've had this team.

And they have a big feature page on the team of six people or eight people or something.

They've been there for six months.

But they say they're investigating next week.

They're investigating the friends of the president, the way to wealth, the man who has friends in high places.

He doesn't do a fucking thing about that.

After I told you he had something going on, have we done anything?

He was investigated in New York because he was going after moikers.

And Frank Chandler, we got in on him, he's involved in this.

He was a government, he was a government of the Jews who had been there, who had been there.

I really feel stronger than Bob that we are.

Or maybe I'm wrong.

I really hope we're going to extend for them.

We're not tough enough.

We're getting tough now.

We've got somebody who can do it.

We sure are.

We're getting screwed on another one now, this goddamn fire.

The LA Times went into the immigration service.

That's the LA Times again.

The Times reporter went into the immigration service and asked them to give

then a group of agents to raid the place.

And the immigration service guy said, that isn't the way we work.

We raid it, we don't give an inspector people to raid.

So they went down and raided it.

Are we defending her?

I will never withdraw her name.

She's up here today.

For confirmation, she's up here today.

All right.

That's no accident either.

This story happened to break today before she came out.

That's right.

No, I want to start taking the times off.

I really do.

What I've told them to do, because I'm sure we can get them, and I'm going to have to go through the adventure, because the guy's giving us a bad time on what I'm going to do, is to raid the L.A. Times, because I'm sure they've got illegal Mexican aliens working in the L.A. Times.

It's impossible for them not to.

Mitchell, please.

Yes.

I've also given them a list of Democratic-owned stores in East L.A. Do you think they've got any idea what they're doing?

Well, how about some of their ranchers?

I'm sure they've got other ranchers.

Everybody's got the Mexican.

You don't check with us.

And see, she's done nothing illegal.

There's no law against hiring an illegal Mexican.

I would guess he'd be.

Yeah.

John, with all your other problems, here's one thing that I want done, and I don't want any argument about it.

I want you to direct the most trusted person you have in the integration service that they are to look over all of the activities of the Los Angeles comms, all of them, and they are to send their teams in to see whether they are violating the web backend.

Now, let me explain, because as a Californian, I know everybody who's a Californian hires to put a law against them because they are there.

It goes to me, you know.

So, a police channel, I'm not going to check with regard to this guard.

I understand.

Is that clear?

Understand?

Do it.

Give me a report.

Okay.

Now, you know, the next shot is they came up with and made a big fuss out of it that you had hired.

that you had had an illegal Mexican working on your San Clemente property.

Have I?

Yeah.

What they had was, one, the Coast Guard, when they had a landscaping crew in, you know, to clean up the rubbish or something, hired, had a contractor bring a crew in to clean stuff up.

And one guy on that contractor's crew was an illegal Mexican who worked there for less than a day on your property.

Did we get it out or close down?

Oh, sure.

Did they rent that?

Yeah.

But they're trying to play it the other way now.

And it will be less than a day.

Yeah.

The day we've got to get those, this dumb son of a bitch at the immigration service, whose name, incidentally, is Rosenberg, is kind of interesting.

Yeah.

The guy in L.A. Yeah.

Hello.

Uh, Mr. Mitchell, please.

That clown went on television this morning.

on the CBS morning news or something like that, holding up the affidavits of their notices to Mrs. Benuegos that she had illegal accidents.

In other words, he's just playing the thing right down the line.

He's the guy that killed them, but it won't hurt at all if he did.

I think it's Rosenberg or Rosenstein.

I don't know.

I think it's Rosenberg.

And it's Clive Farrell.

Here at the head of the immigration services, the one that mentioned, apparently in answer to a question, said yes, there had been an illegal event here.

Did he say it, though?

Apparently.

Did he point out that it was for half a day?

I think he did.

If he didn't, someone else did, because that's what I've had John Dean really cranky.

Yeah.

Oh, John, I wanted to be sure we covered it.

The fellow out there in the immigration service, and this is one where you set an example for the rest of the bureaucracy, because I'm writing a couple of internal references that are taken to the framework, is a Kite by the name of Rosenberg.

He is to be out.

He is to be out, transferring to some other place out of Los Angeles.

I don't give a goddamn what the story is.

He went on television.

We put him on for going on television.

He was a violation.

The second thing is Farrell, the head of the Equatorial Immigration Service here, is an idiot.

He has privately, at a cocktail party in the last 24 hours, bragged that he was going to get Nixon.

He is to be out.

I want his resignation on my desk by the end of the day.

Is that clear?

Why don't you agree with me, John?

Why does Farrell talk this way?

Because he may be coppering his bets against whatever's gonna happen in the future.

Well, I'd get him in and ask him.

I want you to go in and say, now look, fellow, do you drink or something?

I mean, put it right to him.

Have you been talking this way because it's all over town?

You know, like it's going on with this business that there was an illegal Mexican working on San Clemente.

The poor son of a bitch was brought in by a contractor and worked three hours left.

I know that Farrell confirmed it to the press.

I mean, he did not point out that he worked three hours.

So I really feel you better.

I just want to be, John, you've got to be disciplined.

Rosenberg is to go.

He is to go.

And that son of a bitch, I don't care.

Take the heel.

We're not going to have him.

For them to do this, for them to do this when this woman's coming up, is deliberate.

None of the time's for us.

And that's the way it's going to be done.

I've already ordered Connolly.

We're going after the Chandlers, every one individually, collectively.

Every one of those sons of bitches.

Well, I'll leave it to you.

I'll leave it to you.

But I want you to scare them with an angel's light.

Okay, Doc.

Thank you.

He probably is.

He's very weak to be scared.

That's all right.

He's very weak to be scared.

I'm sure he's going to lie a little.

That's what he's going to do.

I'm going to go ahead and scare him.

Rosenberg, you've got tightness on your throat.

You're kind of very far off.

But we're going to have some discipline on this thing.

Goddamn Rosenberg.

Well, the thing we've talked to do so that the Banuelos doesn't stand out is that the one place where they're doing this is to raid some other places.

I thought, for instance, Mattel Toys, who I know hires Mexican Mattel Toys, which is a big toy company out there in LA, which is owned by the Elliott Handler and his wife, Mrs. Ruth Handler.

There's a couple of Jews who've put millions of dollars into democratic causes.

And I know they've got a lot of Mexicans who have been in their plans.

And if they have Mexicans, they have to have illegals.

Now, are they going to go after Mexicans or not?

As of now, they say they don't have a complaint on them.

We have a complaint.

We'll get a complaint.

They'll go after us.

Do I know that somebody's following us?

I want to go after this goddamn Los Angeles Times.

Now, who can go after us?

I want Otis Chandler gone after him.

Let's do Otis.

Let's leave Norman alone.

What the hell harm does it do after Otis?

None.

That's why we're doing Otis Chandler.

Don't you think it'll shake him up some?

Yeah.

He'll squeal about it, but I'd like to go after these people up here.

I'd leave Norman alone.

And also, I do think there's...

I think we have got to start treating them like they're...

I think they should be almost...

I don't know.

I should go to another background.

You went up there again last week.

How much of Christ's goodness is due?

Will you tell me?

Well, if it does, I may be wrong.

Oh, I don't think it does any good.

Let me see what...

the immigration thing, here's this plan, so they can accept to be those in service.

That's the best thing Scholes has done for old Jordan Schultz almost.

Why is Jordan so fucking naive about the Democrats?

Or is he just naive about people generally?

What way?

Oh, these people are the valueless.

He says, well, no.

19 and 21 are Jews.

20 out of 21 are Democrats.

They're screwing all the time here.

Well, they're honest guys.

He knows better than that.

Well, he hasn't said that either.

Oh, no, he does that all the time, doesn't that son of a bitch change?

Well, he had trouble getting him changed, but not because he was a good man, because he was concerned about the heat of change.

Which is a valid concern.

We are.

He is worried.

You're damn right he is.

Get it done with.

And George is all for it.

He's not dragging his feet at all on the town.

He is.

Anybody around here think that any one of these people are...

Well, we're moving now and getting more out of that.

Good.

Malik is a guy who just loves to do it.

He's got it in state.

We always think of state as the worst.

Somebody's got to get over and talk to him.

and then hand out the boilerplate, here's the president's financial statement.

Yeah, I don't need it.

You don't want to get your thing into it.

It isn't hitting you, and I don't think it's going to hurt me.

But he doesn't care about hurting you.

He doesn't care.

He's tough.

But he is concerned about it running off on us.

It'll hurt as much as it's going to hurt us.

I'm not so sure.

I sold it.

It's an old business deal.

Yeah, it's a good, sharp business deal.

But what the hell?

The guy said it was a really fine deal.

It's an island that he bought for investment.

Well, that fucking Chandler comes in and asks for the deal on that Cyber Dino's son.

Came in personally and asked me about it.

Yeah.

What the hell does he call that?

I feel so strongly about this double standard stuff.

Yeah, fine, okay.

Hello?

Hi, Arthur.

You were in New York yesterday, so I didn't get a chance to talk to you, but I wondered if Bill has talked to you yet?

Great, great.

Well, I wanted you to check the language.

Right.

Yeah.

No, they did bend the ear of wishes on the setting in part of two to three.

Now, I'm not putting that in my remarks because if I say two to three people, it's too confusing.

But it's to be hit, Conley will hit it tomorrow, and, of course, McCracken will hit it today in the briefing.

Now, let me ask you this.

The one thing I was concerned about, and I want to make this clear,

I wonder the interest side of this, but on the dividend side, is that a proper thing for the Fed to do?

Does that worry you?

I'd prefer to have you know it to understand.

But if it worries you, it's pure jaw-blowing.

And it might work.

Sure.

The main thing, though, is if you can have the Burns Committee, it's going to be much stronger.

Medicine aren't going to have the Stans Committee or the Romney Committee.

You see, that's our choice.

And we just can't have that.

And that's why I told, I don't know, we had a message.

We said we ought to make, you know, we said, well, the Burns Committee, well, it's difficult.

But the other name is that they're not going to have any impact.

And part of this is the moral impact.

I see you've changed as a safe guard.

That's good.

I don't want to give the indication that we're going to step in with a lollipop and run away.

As a safe guard, I will ask the factors.

And that doesn't bother me.

There's standby controls over here.

Oh, well, you heard those people in those meetings.

Well, Patman will.

Yeah.

Well, as a matter of fact, even John McClellan came in to see me, aren't you?

Very conservative, he ran this year.

He said, you've got to do something about it, about it.

And I said, well, you know, you give it to God, we do it.

Well, we're doing something.

Well, no, the people don't think so.

So let's say it and hope to God we go down.

Yeah.

And also, they'll trust you.

But on the other hand, I heard you get on the phone and call somebody that's not more impacted than anybody else in this country.

So you just do it.

Okay?

Good.

I appreciate it.

And I'm going to slug it through them on the high level tonight.

You do it on the low level, you know.

But if you need to, kick them in the groin.

Don't worry.

It's very strong.

Probably too strong, but it's strong.

It just, it basically, it says we're going to continue, rather than, I'm not calling it a new program.

I'm calling it a continuation of the old.

See, and now basically, it is new, but I say we are going to continue the program of waste management.

That was the key thing that I thought had to be in there.

So I, remember you recommended that, and I put that in.

But I've got some lines in there you'll like.

I'm trying to.

Yeah, most of the prices are good.

I understand the world now.

Well, at least it didn't go up.

Yeah, all right.

Fine, thank you.

Now, we've got him purring like a cat.

I just wanted to check out this.

It looks all right to me.

You don't run it past him.

Just put it that way.

So, we need now to get the track and get built on it.

Finish it up.

We've got him on it.

We've got the birds committed.

Well, I should get brought up on it.

I just get brought up on it on the other side.

You know what they did with Tom, right?

I'm stolen.

And they know it.

They know it.

They know I worked my butt off while I was out of office for eight years and made $200,000.

I haven't done a goddamn thing to show for it.

Nothing.

net worth of $400,000, Jesus Christ.

What the Christ do they want?

I don't own a stock or a bond.

I don't own any of their government installations, for example, and I didn't want to call it a government installation.

Now, what the Christ do they call it, though?

It never did make enough out of the fact that I let them offer, you know, $170,000 in cash.

So I was trying to get off your stuff.

Great.

I'm trying to get off your stuff.

Great.

And we're about to say a god damn word.

You agree?

If I give them a damn chance.

They're going to want something.

I just don't.

I want everything that comes up at all times.

I want to hear what you're going to do.

What happens to Social Security and how they handle this.

Just read them.

And also a couple of them are cooler.

So I've seen that.

Totally.

Every social network.

I've snuck one.

There's a problem.

There's a back in 72.

No, there won't.

They won't back me on the front page.

They'll have a, you know, like they did in 62, a miserable editorial.

That's that.

That's all I want.

CPS is starting a big project to discredit her on the basis that her research isn't accurate.

They've already found inaccuracies in her research and she's got a great mind on that.

She says, that's fine.

I imagine they'll probably find that 20% of what I did was wrong.

I'm sure there's a 20% error.

And if only 80% of it's true, then it certainly proves my point.

And she's...

They're building controversy, which is the wrong thing for them to do, because it's going to go up.

Broadcasting magazine is running some stuff now.

So they're getting the industry stirred up.

This is all pre-publication stuff, so they're trying to figure out how to do it.

Well, aren't they never going to do it?

They're really going to scare those with this controversy.

But also, remember, I really feel that, in the end, that the efforts to get them to act more responsibly will be, at best, very ineffective.

I think, on the other hand, the efforts to add this onto the egg movement, to discredit this among the people, is the big thing.

And that's why I want it to be a bestseller.

I want people to talk about it.

I want people to think about it.

You know what I mean?

They need it live.

and just build a hell of a credibility gap.

If I had a Colson shot, for example, I would call CPS on the fact that they ran for two days.

There's a story about the big attacks in Cambodia.

It doesn't matter if I had yesterday.

I'm not sure though.

They made the point that in the wrap-up, that the election had stabilized the Jewish government.

It may not have been an election the way we want it, but nonetheless, it showed that the communists were unable to disrupt it.

And that the communists, in an all-out military offensive, were unable to put an end to the armed forces and had to withdraw.

And that equips the whole situation with the position that it should be in.

He has that great gift for, you know, these crappy lines, that stiletto that he sticks in.

Oh, one of the best.

What hint did he write off of that?

Of the crawler?

Yeah.

He said something about that.

He said, isn't the POW doing a serious problem?

He said, well, first of all, something about a presidential candidate.

They didn't mention it by name.

They said, hey, Senator.

He said, well, of course, that Senator just qualified himself for the presidency.

That's my whole life.

The aspect of...

The president calling is not an aspect of the American people in that statement.

He just kind of flipped it off.

So then a little later, they tried to get it back into West St. Louis.

He did a great job on Capitol Hill, through many things, but there are a lot of sharp developments.

I want that.

And that's, that's when we get on dangerous ground.

You can't be trying to get attention anyway.

You're not going.

Yeah.

Hold.

Well, we did.

We knew they were being bought, but we just kind of acted helpless and said, the other guys are buying them.

Well, we've got the resources to buy them.

And that's the other problem.

Our businessmen are not cynical enough to move in and do that kind of stuff for you when you're out, but you can do it in here just because you've got so many projects going on.

See, I've been making a mistake in hitting her today.

If I were that, I'd play low and hope that she just is too ill at the beginning of the game.

We aren't going to let that happen.

I don't realize it.

I don't, I don't.

That book's going to sell.

We're going to make it sell.

God will make it sell.

as I said, mainly to go to the plant.

I had an interesting reaction from Pat and from that politician on the ground.

Pat thought the jury was going to think

You can see that in a lot of these things.

He was sort of spurned by Zingler in some way.

See, Zingler was having a problem with that photographer, and they got cross-wise in trying to make arrangements for him on some or other, and as a result of that, Dewey obviously just decided he had wrong.

Well, he did.

But it's a cheap, it doesn't get him on any value basis.

And Ron, he pressed Ron's apology.

He also said that we were waiting out there.

He had a very bad shot on Chapin at that one time.

It wasn't, that isn't what it was.

They used the word merchandise.

We all talked about those programs, and they were kind of like this thing.

Look, you have to have it.

Now, Trisha on the other hand, some of it is bad.

Trisha on the other hand said it was a plus.

She said that it was a plus because she particularly based it on the interview.

Trisha's got a stake in it, too.

There's an extensive interview with her.

There isn't any with Patter, too.

Not by him.

If she didn't, it was because he didn't want to see her.

He was very independent about who he wanted to talk to and then he didn't.

Like you made the point to him, which he writes down in the thing.

It's true he didn't follow around with us very long.

Well, in a way, we don't want to talk about it.

Where did he go out of his way?

Trish is fine.

I said, even though he was fine, that he were free to talk about it.

Well, she said that you don't want to talk about it because of the fact that when she was saved from the prison, it does have some negative effects.

She said, overall, I have a feeling it's across a very strong person, so forth and so on.

And very strong in the press.

She said, hey, something is negative in the fact that I talked to the press and paid no attention to it.

And she said, that's the best thing you could have said.

And that had come through very clearly.

You obviously made your case on that to him the same way you've done it to me, and that's very specific.

I read the press, but I don't worry about it.

Really, because you want to know what the people are being told, that you are not affected by it, and that you will never...

Let a decision be made here in this office while you're in it on the basis of what the press wants done or how it's going to affect the press.

And that's damn good.

I think that's why people want to hear that.

That was a pretty good quote.

That was worth a lot of time.

Yeah.

Of course, I'm pretty sensible to it.

And we got some of the other things in that we wanted in.

Some of the basic, the hard-working business, the length of the day, the number of people you see, and the isolation things.

Of course, the problem is this runs so long after we were doing it.

We were fighting demons then that don't really exist so much anymore.

So we were trying to make pitches that they were not.

Jeremy's concerned about that.

Let me say, I'm not concerned.

I feel it's very important to understand.

I'm not concerned about the fact that articles are not all positive.

I don't expect that they will never be about us.

And if they are, they are not believable.

They're not believable.

I mean, an article could be positive about a liberal movie, but I'm concerned it's never.

So they've got to compromise.

It's a major book.

It's very positive.

Oh, yeah.

See?

So I understand that.

I understand that.

Did he?

Good.

He has a number of things on the press, and he picks up some transcripts of Ron's briefings, which show how petty the press are and how they date and how vicious they are in trying to create an adverse story and all that sort of thing.

Yeah.

We're going to go to the pastures.

At least you can't judge the book.

One look has an idea.

You don't know what the other is.

Because the book's editor took excerpts, and we don't know what's in them.

The balance of the book could be quite different than the balance of the book.

It'll be rare.

That's for me.

Alan Gerd will sell because it's Alan Gerd.

That's another name.

Yeah.

The way that I do it, though, is not wrong.

The Agnew way is wrong.

I don't know how he carried it, but I was extremely courteous about it.

Unflappable.

I mean, I don't consider any of them personal enemies.

I don't feel that way about it.

I know that they just believe that it's their job, but my job is not to pay attention to it.

You can get it through that way.

You just can't allow this.

to be point out that there are no television sets and all that sort of thing.

Because that, you see, that is something that makes me press it magically all the time, infinitely.

To think that those sons of bitches write and talk and that I listen, read, and pay no attention.

That point comes through better because it's your words, really, than we've ever gotten through.

Is that right?

Because he runs it as direct quotation.

He runs it into a long interview.

It's interesting.

He's done it in an interesting fashion, and that'll help because he's picked up a lot of things.

What kind of stuff do you use on Christian shows?

The press.

The, uh...

And she was very clever the way she did it.

She did the press on the cheap.

And then she made the, I mean, I was going to start with some old manly stuff, but the path was the disciplinary, and she was always available to counsel with girls.

that you never forced yourself to be pathetic about the patient, established Marilyn Miles, and that you were there to guide when they wanted it.

I thought that was a very good thing.

Good line in the press.

An open thing.

Yeah, I think it's... She read the effort for power, at least parts of it.

Children are open to power.

Yeah.

It was good for her to see it, that she hadn't realized how depressing it had been for her, ever cold and shy, introverted to work and so on.

She remarked that she'd known it for a long time.

After all, it meant that everything we did

all the pencils we worked on, all of them.

I mean, she's such a good friend, and she's very lovely.

These live sons of bitches never got that across.

Did they or didn't they?

No, they didn't.

They didn't in commentary.

They did on picture.

And they ran film on them.

But nobody came on and said, here is a picture of warm, lovable Mrs. Nixon in her wonderful, outgoing fashion.

Now, see, they're starting to write that out.

I saw there was something.

She showed me very proudly something there.

did with the disney or some woman started well i don't you think the tv thing did the the the abc might have changed them it's changing the the fashion now is to report pat next to his team they're not kind of person than they used to be because tv that's right they can't they can't place the credible thing but the trip that trip which was just

singularly successful for some reason.

It sort of twisted things around.

It really got her going on the Mexico trip.

Yeah, that whole, you know, the trip across the country, the one that was covered on the television.

Yeah, she came to that Walt Disney thing that she went to.

She came through all the kids, the color type stuff with the kids' comments.

I held her hand and it was soft just like my mother's.

Well, in a sense, but in another sense, you know, the Drury thing, you come through pretty well on, because it makes the point, you make the point very strongly, which I haven't heard you make before in anything like this, that I think is damn good, which is that I never fire blanks.

And you, you, we're talking about it on the basis that you don't get stirred up and stopped and raised held when something goes wrong or threatening or anything like that.

I've never recommended a secretary.

I don't know whether he ever got that in.

Yeah.

Something arose.

He didn't say secretary.

No secretary has ever been recommended.

And that you've never called a publisher on a report.

All of that is pulled.

And that gets stirred up.

Very much so.

It's going to be a tough article for the opposition to know how to deal with, because it does paint a damn accurate picture.

Also, the opposition will have the best impression that I'm raising power with people, dictatorial, and this and that.

But the isolation, of course, is true.

It's true in one sense, but not in the other.

So it's got them to respond.

It's good that I'm not sitting around preparing to speak in front of a group of people all arrested and on the property without even having the possibility of taking a vote.

They've quoted the chopper on the isolation.

What chopper?

They're shot dead.

He just said, oh, it's ridiculous.

He isn't isolated at all.

Anybody who needs to see him for a reason sees him.

No problem getting what you think in.

Isolation.

That's certain faith.

That was last year's.

Well, they did the isolation, but now the black is there and so forth.

But that's nothing we can do about it.

We are sending a few messages to any of the kids now, but we have to do something about the kids.

That's very important, because I think the point is just to show that we want them, we care about them.

A listening session.

Bob, on the 16th.

I'd love to change, but I can't do that.

I feel we've got to go to such an impossible way.

Well, she's invited.

The wedding's at 16.

She's going.

Actually, I don't think I should have done anything better.

I think she could go.

She can go.

Tricia's coming down to go.

So I really done him.

Then how do we go get her back here and he back from Camp David?

See, this is October 16th, Saturday.

That's you at Charlotte.

Then you come back.

Oh, we're going to come back during Friday?

Friday the 15th.

You're back here?

You were just going up to Camp David Friday night.

Can I stay here?

Can you get me Mrs. Nixon, please?

I don't think she's going up there to Camp David Friday night.

I was just making sure that our schedule were on.

On that 16th, is that the day of the fellow congressman?

I think the better thing is there because of the fact that it might get me in the joint conference.

I think that maybe you ought to go since you're not going to give her a shower if you're willing to go.

But I don't think I should go since I've already blessed the darn thing.

I've done this and I've done this.

My problem is that I don't want to be too close to that many on a social basis.

How that's on the right view, that you go where she goes, and Julie will go where she goes, but that I will not go where she goes.

But just you and Tricia, that's a tremendous thing for them.

And they feel, they feel totally, I can assure you, and Helen Thomas and Doug O'Neill feel we've already done it.

I mean, they've got an enormous play.

We've been there.

And I don't really think that you need to give one thought to go.

I really don't think that we do.

You might just slip in on one.

If Helen Smith is giving one, I really think that, you know, somebody that's a very good friend that you'd like to do for somebody else, if you could just pop in and say, hello, just one of us listening, and leave.

But I think we ought to avoid the way of reception.

I just think that we've got a lot of staff people who have married, press people who have married, congressmen who have married, you know, and that I think we ought to avoid that.

So we can do that.

But I appreciate how you do that.

Great.

All right, fine.

Charlotte, and then we're going down.

We're going to Charlotte, come back, and then do it over to Camp David.

But that's Camp David.

It's going to be pretty, you know, all the time.

I hope you do that.

All right.

Well, what I was thinking was, if you go to Camp David, you should go over and stay in Caldwell.

And, you see, they will not, I'm not going to have that, or for that matter, stay in the room.

They're only going to be there two hours.

I just stay in the room.

And I'm not going to show them, I'm not going to show them an ass when I'm going to have them come in.

I don't take them for a tour of the camp.

And we come back at 10 o'clock.

Okay.

All right, we'll shake hands.

Oh, I never, I never mind it.

Never mind.

On the other hand, we will.

That's funny.

Well, except they got their relatives.

No, no, I was talking.

Let the cat take a hint, the cat.

But the point is...

Let's just shake hands, but we'll just have you, me, and the minister, not the minister's wife, tell them, but it must be your wife and me.

Yeah.

I know, I know, I know.

It works, and I don't mind it.

I mean, I'm sure it means a lot.

All right.

Good, all right.

And then tonight into the week, I will not be over there until about 7.

If you want to wait, fine.

Okay.

She's going to another reception.

Some showers and things.

I'm maybe going to buy a drunken press corps again.

What the hell?

You haven't even gone to the cabinet wedding receptions.

You've only gone to a wedding service, and that's kind of sticky.

It just isn't where you ought to be.

That's the day.

Henry's last day here before he leaves for China.

He's coming to summer this afternoon.

He's supposed to be coming.

The thing, as far as I'm concerned, I'm almost inclined to think we've got to do one thing or the other.

Don't be cold.

I do want to be part of the parade, you know.

And get a, where you get a thing like that in you, you know, where it gives you.

Sure, but let's not rush it.

People are just going to say, yeah, that's what we want.

You said it.

And again, my rule, my rule on blacks and Jews, go hard on, I mean, when you, I know you're getting pressure from the Pope.

Pressing the Jews.

One thing, going the other way, uh, Paris, the Italians, the...

Really?

No, I'm not going to their desk.

No, no.

How are their luck?

How are nothing?

They presented to you the Mark O'Neill Award.

Yeah.

Which is their highest award that they present.

And Wolfie went down to Miami and received it for you in August.

Yeah.

At their convention.

They've only given it to six people.

Wow.

to anyone since 1967.

They would like to come in on Monday after your appointment with Colombo and present, personally present the statue to you.

It's a silver statuette.

All right.

This would be six members of the board.

Not 600.

Six members of the board.

All right.

And we'd invite Mauro to say after the presentation, you know, kind of tie it in.

It's not bad.

And are we thinking of another conversation?

Whatever happened at Auburn?

Well, I know we put him on, but I remember we said maybe I'd go.

I don't think I need to.

I just feel for him about that.

I've done a lot for Elmer, and I'll have you down here sometime.

I just don't think I should pull up now.

That's November 5th.

No, I don't remember.

I don't remember anything like that.

See, you've got to do it in here on the night.

Well, that's good.

I won't do it on the day.

It's over.

I've been waiting well for that.

.

stuff like SHIELD and people like that.

The rest, I don't see.

Do you have any interest in the possibility?

Yeah.

Yeah, how are we coming?

Oh, I see.

Are they ready?

Okay, fine.

I just want to be sure they get it over with.

Fine, fine, I do.

Any interest in the possibility of the Redskin letter exchange Sunday afternoon?

I should go out there.

This whole government pay break is done.

We want to be abrasive to the nation.

We want to get rid of those poor passengers.

Half of them are government employees from those days.

Have the Redskins got anything?

This town, we all worked in this town.

The government employee said, you can't get tickets to that.

I said, that's wrong.

No, it's true, Bob.

The government employees come here.

They're all, they're all.

I said, you know, it's a talent super record.

I called Alan.

Anyway, my point is, I'd love to do it, except that I can't do it.

I just think it's not good.

Not good.

I mean, no good is going to any place where you're going to get a lot of movies.

Okay, and you don't want to explore anything on the World Series if you fall for it later, do you?

No.

I don't think you're going to fall for it.

No, I don't.

I think going to fall into that sort of time is a pretty good idea.

Well, it's just that nobody believes it.

And also, also, I believe that the sports image on the press side

which is good practice you can make.

And I don't, and I think, frankly, overplaying is not a good idea on the track.

You just have to see where it is.

You've got, that's all the auto racers, bowling, do the best thing you've got to do.

But I had a good follow-up message, an auto racer thing.

The auto racer said, great follow-up.

Well, look, you don't read the bowling match without a racer.

in the White House.

I wonder if they were all picked up in Sports Illustrated.

That's it.

In general.

So that's just rule of thumb.

If the game were opening in Pittsburgh, I would like to consider being nice with it with Pittsburgh.

Oh, I don't, I don't, I don't want to do this.

I'm not here to do this.

We wanted to go to a game.

The purpose would be to go to town.

We hired Ed Evans to go to Nashville.

I thought about that.

You know, we were still thinking about a possibility of being at Editorial Writers.

They could fit their group team in, so that would be a serious game.

Is Monday involved?

Is Monday off?

No, they'll go right on, I think.

They'll play Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, Friday, and all of them.

If they take a day off, that's true.

And if they take a time off, that's true.

But I just wonder, I don't know whether they're doing it this close, but they may.

I don't know.

I have mixed emotions about it.

Mixed emotions.

It's an interesting kind of deal.

The more value I would think would just be they are people that don't generally have contact with you, don't see you.

What's that?

Without television, without radio.

Do you understand?

I don't want to see you in just a news conference.

I've got other things to do.

Then you can go back to operation.

I don't want to see you.

To be honest, sir, whatever.

You mentioned the damnable speed making that gas.

and that I am now doing a considerable amount of time and effort to work with the specialists and work with the speaker.

I've worried you goddamn much about everything.

I've done a lot of them.

I've done mine too.

I've given them the outline.

But you make them work.

I've done my style and so forth, and I've done them work.

But I don't sit and try to...

I can think of something that could be better.

I want better for me.

But...

It's too much of an assumption of time.

And basically, you get a guy that can write fairly close to your style, you know, by our coaches at the time.

But to get that, it's a...

I generally feel speech is a very ineffective way to get across the point.

You buy that?

Yes.

You're doing something like this in LA.

Yeah, you've got to do it.

Q&A is better.

As a matter of fact, those speeches in the airport are effective in this case.

Apparently there's a press conference.

All right.

Oh, you don't know.

The press conference didn't tell me anything because she's far beyond that.

They went back and all of her information.

I don't know if it goes on forever.

They were set for no hearing.

They were just going to run it right through the infirmary.

But now they had a hearing.

No, I don't know.

They were concerned that somebody might decide to because of this.

I don't think they will.

I'm afraid to kick a Mexican woman around.

I'm afraid to kick a woman.

I'm not afraid to kick a Mexican woman.

That's one of the few good ones that we made from a political standpoint.

That has great politics, right?

Yep.

It sure does.

It's one of the most important things, basically.

At least, at least as he kept finding them.

Partly he's been turned on.

I mean, he's been trying to find them.

Perfect.

It would qualify.

Because we don't get turned on.

Do we all spend time?

No.

Is it that I should not do it?

Why?

I just don't think you're doing anything.

I think I'm doing nothing.

Well...

We can add a lot of prep up there.

Not that much is the problem.

That would be the only argument for doing it this year.

So that you can...

So this next year, it will be the, it'll be the Kansas Nixon, Theresa May, or whatever.

I won't go.

But they'll do that.

They will have the candidates.

We'll just schedule and I'll be in the West.

Well, that's all I can say.

Thank you, George.

I mean, it has that much effect on me, you know.

I don't expect to find a better place to do it, obviously.

The thing is, when you're in New York, the Waldorf Fall West, you actually get it all the time.

Suffolk, some of those counties up straight, West Jackie, Suffolk, Nassau, that's what they do.

The Auspence Dinner is the same kind of thing as a Grit-art.

You've got to talk to yourself every time.

Come in and be real.

And you can, if you feel you need to do an ounce of that dinner, you can give the cardinal a lot more.

Having done that, I don't think the ultimate, that's another point, I've got the eyes of Columbus, I agree.

The real Catholics instead of the Jewish, the Jewish, I'm sure.

What would the last minute be like?

How do you look for some Italian forums?

They're enthusiastic.

They just love it.

You know, I'm a good Italian farmer, but we couldn't have an Italian poultry someplace else.

You know, it's very hard to be there with him.

He's fine and everything, but you have to be brave.

Christ, he's over here pretty soon.

You got it?

Good.

How many words we got?

Same.

That's about what it was, yeah.

Okay.

Right.