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He did a very good job.

We talked on the way over, and he raised his hand.

He said, you know, I've been thinking about this, and one thing Tommy said to me a while back when we were talking about it,

He said, you know, I'm not going to be here much longer.

I probably won't be here until the end of the year.

And he said, I think it's essential for Connie to stay here.

And if this functioning here makes any difference in his attitude on that, then maybe there's some way I can give you some help in that direction too.

And I said, well, obviously, I didn't give him any discussion.

He said, obviously, that's

He did a good job.

He did push for trying to define how it was going to work and all that.

Conley laid it out exactly the way the two of them, their minds basically leaned on the understanding of how it worked.

I talked to Conley afterwards for quite a while, and his view is that it definitely should be

I said, there's no problem on that.

I said, you didn't want to force anybody on it at the whole point here.

It wasn't a matter of just being comfortable with the guy, but that he didn't convince that this was the right guy for the job.

And I said, there's no problem on a personal basis or any other basis in changing it now.

Because Peter is...

It's all on that kind of a basis, and if you don't want it, it'd be very easy to move it back anyways, finding, you know, if you're interested in that, go ahead with this kind of design, and you'll be able to change this, put this through, and all that.

But, if you want to do it, you need to be ready to do it.

And, um, which I think is true, I haven't talked to these since they've been built, and then, um, but, um,

The only way it can be handled here is that there's got to be a strongman over there running the door, whether they're Gallant or anybody else like that.

Then,

He wouldn't be able to wheel the other departments, and I haven't been able to do it, or the president hasn't been able to do it all of a sudden.

And we have a problem.

Steve Flanagan is known by everybody around here to be close to the president, perhaps, or to have a position where he was leading things around.

Up to now, he can go right on.

And I have no personal problem with Steve Flanagan.

And I feel very strong.

We've got to have a strong one.

Not a weak one.

I've got to have the council, because if we folded up the council, and then tried to do what we're talking about, I'd be lost, because as far as I can, as the Secretary of Treasury, we deal with other departments, except as an equal.

He's always been talking about this, and right, and come up with the same one, and then, you know, we've got to see what gets away, and it's better.

So he made that point, and he said that Lyman, today, had said,

You can be sure I'm not interested in handling all the moving stuff in the treasury or doing anything here, because I guarantee you I'm not going to be subject to the treasury next year.

I'm not going to be sitting in this office next year or something like that.

But that's pretty swell, and it's pretty sure.

But he said he was making it as a point of assuring me.

He was making it a point of planning.

He wanted the work done elsewhere.

He didn't want to try and haul a lot of stuff in the treasury.

He didn't believe the whole office in the treasury was

But you will, as long as you want to do exercises, extra responsibility, you've got to take on as far as trade, and that kind of what is concerned.

Anyway, to all the things he makes it possible to do, he reopens the case idea of busting open the State Department, after he got back from Russia, and now he's going to take it.

Reorganisering and all that.

He makes an interesting point.

He says if you get many more leagues, if that kind of thing is one thing, you're going to have to, in order to blunt the effectiveness of those people, so that people will turn the other way and say, well, it's just those sons of bitches that are going to be organized.

Maybe it was a device.

Anyway, from a cognitive point of view, it should be fine.

He's happy with it.

He wants to kind of work with it.

It's not a right of will.

Except for Austin.

It's not Bill.

It's Bill Hickey's brother.

It's another Hickey.

It was the brother of Bill.

It's not about the brother.

I wouldn't understand it.

Well, I think...

It's in good shape this week.

Get it in.

And then I think he'll know.

Settle all the concerns.

He'll know what to do.

That's it.

My book would call me.

I went through the whole thing.

I didn't save it.

I called you.

Oh, did you?

No.

You heard me.

Just to get through to you, I want to read it to you.

Very simplistic.

I would ask for this television to present to the American people and the leaders of North Vietnam a plan for peace which can bring to an end the longest war of this century.

The offer that I now show to the public on behalf of the government of the United States and the government of South Vietnam is full of generous support.

It is a plan to end the war now.

It includes an offer to withdraw all American forces from the six months of agreement.

These are supplements of the speed and return of all the voters in the war at their homes.

I was briefly with U.S. partners today, three years ago.

We met with the 5,000 American fighters in Vietnam who believed we could kill the nation.

There had to be another way out in case the other side refused to negotiate.

That path was called the end position.

This meant training and equipment in the South Asian region to protect themselves, and withdrawing American citizens from the United States.

The path of the organization has been successful.

A few years ago, I announced that the American portion of Vietnam had begun at 69,000.

That means almost one-half of the American population has drawn to Vietnam in the past three years.

In terms of American lives, the loss of 300 million is reduced by over 95%, now less than that.

The path of the organization has been a long, hard journey.

Thank you very much.

and see whether it would be possible to end the public deadline for the Department of Education in Paris.

After concentrating on the Secretary of State Rogers, Mark Baskin, and Saigon, our chief negotiator in Paris, with the full knowledge of the proof and the truth, I sent out my sister to Paris, and my personal representative on August 4, 1969, to begin the safety of the institution.

Since that time, it has been a small time.

private discussions about both sides of our plan for the negotiations.

I hope that they will speak in negotiations in the end of the war.

The only way to keep this secret is not to tell anybody about it.

For 30 months, I never said a word about it.

I mentioned to you prior to that that I would see the negotiations and press conferences.

You would always say that you were pursuing every possible channel in our search engines.

It was never this sudden and relief that we could turn around and see the negotiations.

Thank you.

The secret record will show just the opposite of the truth.

A Mayfield personage was accepted about eight months ago.

At one of the secret meetings in Paris, the United States offered specifically to agree to a deadline for the withdrawal of all American forces in exchange for the release of all persons before the ceasefire.

At the next private meeting, June 26th, an argument was made to reject the right proposal to set a deadline for the withdrawal of the Chinese police before the ceasefire.

They proposed that all money from the client, which consisted of the jewel patrol, was developed in South Vietnam.

Five days later, on July 1st, the enemy publicly presented a different package for forces to be at Conn, 7 o'clock in the night.

Someone said, in the dark of the evening, 9 o'clock, 7 o'clock in the night.

That afforded a dilemma.

What package did he respond to?

It seemed to depend on the public plans.

July 12th was way back in the evening when we put that question in front of you directly.

They said that we should deal with their running for the secret plan, because they've covered all of it in China, on the way to Congress of the United States of America.

That's what we did.

We went beyond being the son of a bunch of public plans that we were not supposed to be.

On July 1, 6, we told the North Vietnamese that I was prepared to ask the Congress to provide funds for a major economic and public program, a program for the withdrawal of the Chinese, not Vietnam, and sharing with Europe.

On August 6, the United States presented another proposal, which would take into account the decisions of both sides.

This plan, too, could have been spread through the U.S.

It offered to take control of the U.S. and allied forces nine months after that.

We made several voiding proposals that would give the economy a very chance to compete with our economy now.

We have matched some of the U.S. exact foreign relations, not only North Vietnam, but also North Vietnam, public and private.

On September 13, the North Vietnamese rejected this plan.

They were taken to the system field for a result of this plan.

What was the result of our plan?

For months, the North Vietnamese and the U.S. were not responding.

Their side of the problem remains unresolved.

They proposed their own 90-pound plan, which consisted of drill control and governance on Vietnam.

Five days later, on July 1st, the enemy publicly presented a different package of proposals to deal with Kong's 70-pound plan, and so on and so forth.

On the dark of the evening, it was 90-point C of the plan, and that afforded a dilemma.

Would the package really respond to the secret penance of the public plan?

On July 12th, it swayed back to the Indian government, which was to put that question in front of Vietnam directly.

They said that we should deal with their money for the secret plan, because they've covered all over the channel, all over Bay of Corn, Southern Point, Wilson, and the rest of Vietnam.

That's what we did.

We went beyond being the son of the public plan that we had for the secret plan.

July 1st, 2016, I was prepared to ask Congress to provide funds for a major economic and public program, a program for the public for all of China, not the economic sharing program.

On August 16th, we presented another proposal, which was taken into account by the citizens of both sides.

This plan, too, provided us with ready-to-go duties.

It offered to take control of the U.S. and allied forces nine months after the war.

It contained several political principles, and given the Congress the very chance to

Let me get to a final example of what is really going on in Washington.

I decided in October we should make another attempt for a new government.

On October 11th, I sent a private communication to Melody and me, who could imagine the wealth of the group negotiations going on, and urged me to remember first what we've done in this year, and special advisory that I told her some other way to put the position of the man on.

On October 25th, the Vietnamese agreed to meet and suggest a new government.

Just reading.

We are being asked publicly to respond to the polls that we have.

and in some respects were set up months ago.

They were being asked publicly to set a terminal date for hours ago, when they had already offered them a credit.

One of the most complicated things about this conflict was that we ignored the deeper challenge, and allowed the price to have to be a little bit higher.

That is why I have expected the best report of the presenter at the time to help me with this little recession comparison story.

You're publishing in full text, in full design.

You can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt which side of the caveat

This Sunday, the election was reorganized to run by an independent party, representing all political forces in South Vietnam, including Vietnam.

We have heard much about how no election could be very long for President Trump.

President Chu's full knowledge of the situation is present in the peace of his land.

We make this offer as part of the peace plan.

One month before the election, President Chu provided a call to the Senate.

The caretaker administration held a chamber in the South Vietnam Senate.

The only thing this plan was not to do was to try to overthrow our ally, which is the United States, and our additional duty to the enemy wants peace.

Unsteadiness and our withdrawal of troops from America has proven its resolution to end its development into war.

Our readiness to act is still an unsolvable issue.

America has proven its desire to be involved in building a friendly peace through our new China.

Yes, I don't know if the whole president cannot always act on his own, but he always has a point to make.

Some of our citizens are our customers, and whatever our government says must be false, and whatever our enemies say must be true.

The record of the deal that I encourage you to make is true.

I think that's a good television speech, because that's all it is.

It's got a lot of facts that people won't understand, but I think you need them.

I mean, you know, they're listening there.

I think you need...

It doesn't matter if they understand and remember it or anything else.

It's the body of evidence on which your case rests.

You need it there.

I was delighted to get the bonus spot.

I think you're right, though.

I think...

You can't get it very much.

You've got the stiletto.

It's sort of cut in half.

Yeah, and that's the way it has to be done.

It's the temptation of it.

I think this is understandable.

Yep.

It's a bit too hopeless of a view.

Nope.

You know, all these shits are running around saying if you don't do that, it's off the ground.

It's off the ground.

If they do, the point is, I've got to say what I believe.

Especially if you want that, you're pretty happy.

It will be fine.

The offer of you is that bad.

I was going to say, when I was a carer, I was a carer.

I was a carer.

Yes, but I don't think too much.

You have to have men, but Bill's done a superb job of getting the history of your story, and without saying history over and over.

We are the best men.

Just out of the question now, we've got to find ways to work around these different problems.

You set that back for some time.

It's damn brief.

It's a short speed tune.

It's too damn long.

It's a VOW now.

I don't know what they're going to say.

I don't think they'll see that as a stumbling block.

I think they'll see it as a positive thing.

Undercuts anybody saying you didn't cover enough in the shade.

Now our...

I'm pretty sure she's on the app.

No, I think we've got a pretty good conclusion on this.

As we look ahead over the coming decade, that's where we're going to change our economic certainty to the economic reality of our life in America.

Surveying the certainty of rapid change, we can be like a homewriter calling the service, or we can sit high and settle for matters of change directly in our heart of the future.

The secret of matters of change today grows to reach back to old, proven principles, to a background of imagination, intelligence, and the realities of the world.

We believe in independence, self-reliance, and creating value for the planet.

Thank you.

We believe in full and equal opportunity for all Americans in protecting the liberty of our citizens.

We believe in the families and peace of the Indian community and peace of the nation.

We believe in compassion for those in need.

We believe in a system of law that is in order on a basis that is in the basis of the general and true society.

We believe that a person should walk the way he works for, and that when he can, he should work for the right of the general.

We believe in the capacity of people to make their own decisions in their own lives and their own communities.

Nothing mattered more than the quality of our lives, the ways we treat one another, and our capacity to live respectfully together, as a unified society, with a full and gathering regard for the rights of others, and the hate of others.

As we recover from the turmoil and violence of recent years, as we learn once again to speak for one another instead of shouting for one another, we regain our capacity.

As this customer here has stated, I am not the front-runner, but I am the reporter.

But even more important than the program is what we are as a nation, what we do as a nation, to ourselves and to the world.

We are, for example, one of the most famous statues in the world, the statue of the Japanese people, the people of Hawaii, the people of the United States.

The statue is more than a landmark, it is a symbol, a symbol of what America has meant to the world.

Reminds us that what America must demand is not its wealth, not its power, but its spirit and purpose.

A land of the strongest liberty and honor that is held on the hand of wealth and business in search of a better, a more, and above all, a freer life.

The world's hopes for it have been brought from every corner of the world, and become a part of the hope that we hold on to.

We are here in America celebrating the anniversary of the American Revolution.

There are some who say that the old spirit of substance is dead.

We no longer have the strength to carry on the idea of faith in our common purposes.

That spirit never dies.

Those who say this do not know America.

We have been under it, but we haven't undergone it.

Some doubts and some questions.

These are the other side of our growing sensitivity to the resistance of one against the other.

If we were indifferent to the unshakenness of our society, or complacent of our institution, or blind to the good and the bad, then we would have lost our way.

The fact that we have these incentives and our ideals are still strong.

Indeed, they remind us that what is best about America is its compassion.

They remind us that in the final analysis of American analysis, America is great.

not because it is strong, not because it is rich, but because this is a good country.

Let us reject the narrow visions of those who tell us that we are evil because we are not yet free, that we are corrupt because we are not yet poor and pure, that all the sweat and toil and sacrifice that we've gone through in the building of America were to burn off because the building is not yet done.

Let us see that the path we have traveled is wide and open for all of us, and that its direction is toward a better nation,

If we succeed in this task, then we'll be president after all.

Not only for doing what is right, but for doing it in the right way, by rising both parties and groups to serve the nation.

If we fail, then more than any one of us Americans will lose it.

That is why my call upon the Congress today is for the highest basic shame, so that in the years to come, Americans will look back and say, because of this good and intense pressure from the political world, and achieve such great good in America's future.

This, yeah, that part of it, the first part of it, should be in there.

That part ought to be on the front of that.

And it won't be, because they won't put it on the back of the head.

You can see that's where it's at.

You sure can.

It ought to be on the front of the head.

So when I hold the cradle, and I'm going forward, there you go again.

I don't want you to try to do three or four.

Hello?

Ja.

Hello.

Hi John, how are you?

Okay.

The major European nations, Canada, I always think of Canada.

The major European nations, Canada and Japan.

Wait, wait, focus now, please.

Good.

Many thanks.

Bye.

I've got your copy on there.

I've got two of them.

On my copy on page 13.

We've got bottom page 13.

Insert the word for the major European nations, and insert the word Canada.

Okay, now...

Page 21.

Under the leadership of the Secretary of State, we are carefully reviewing the passage.

I have one other sentence.

Those two you can take.

Oh, yeah.

Ray, I'm trying to think.

I had one small thought on the first page of the...

I don't want to use the, when I say the magistrate at the moment, to use it in another way to describe it.

I can say I will never forget that moment when I can use it as something other than the magistrate.

That's right, I used it before, that's the reason.

It doesn't quite fit that.

It's really, it's a great moment in my life.

Or should we just say, I'll never forget that moment?

Is that a clue?

Great, but I know I guessed it first, but I just don't feel comfortable with it.

That's it.

I'm trying to understand how to answer that.

Good.

Okay, you can just call March over there.

I had a couple of others I had a couple of others I had a couple of others I had a couple of others I had a couple of others

And the other one here is the only other thing that we have, which is really important, and the first thing we got was to insert the word Canada.

You know, we talk about Europe.

You have to put in Canada.

I've covered Canada, and I've covered the changes in the word, rather than what Connolly already has there.

But this one, I think this is the one we want, so I shall never forget that one.

All right, thank you very much.

You ever do it again before?

They make suggestions that it's even worse than if you were to die.

That's why I'm going to see what it is.

I don't know what it is, actually.

It's very unusual.

They aren't very good.

But also, it's not that I'm not afraid.

It's just that it's like, yeah, I'm pretty hard to sit down.

And there's a lot of different things.

Whether it's

Go back to...

I think you're right about Hector.

I think Hector was right about his suggestion about not trying to make this any other than a formal...

Formal?

No, yeah.

The point is that

You don't have to make your case.

I shouldn't have to.

They've all got to understand that by God, this is the order of ways.

And we're all going to play ball.

And that is why we shouldn't apologize for slacking, probably, because of this and that.

It's all very difficult, including what you're doing.

This is the way it's going to be now.

Exactly where we are.

Now let's see.

He said I'm a good player.

Yeah.

I'm a good player, you know.

Well, it is to me.

Sure.

Retail sales, the story about that.

But I asked you about the Chinese staff right now.

I feel very strong about it.

I don't think I'm going to have to remark about it under the trip.

One of the reasons for her success was that she just didn't have the help of the people around her.

And I just feel very, very strongly that I don't want her to have to go to a service or another service.

I don't want to cut all of that.

I don't want to have to send a letter to agents and so forth.

I just want to do what I can do.

And I trust her to be there.

We are.

And we're in good shape on that.

The problem is, we've just got to hold it that way.

There's going to be all the temptations of death, by police, by case.

We have made, I must say,

Looking at our own answers to our own questions.

We can satisfy our own goals and our own needs.

We can work together.

What I'd like to do is to help communicate rather than just not do this on this occasion.

I mean, if I hadn't decided what I wanted to do, I wouldn't have chosen to do it.

Maybe we should take over the other person as well.

That's why I started it.

You ought to get out and make your story.

You ought to call.

One person did more than put me on tape.

I knew it was somewhere, and then he tried to throw me out of the thing.

I didn't think he was going to have a man.

I didn't think so.

I was going to have a man, but I don't know now.

Did you see the lady's own journal?

Yes, sir.

Wait just a minute, sir.

Here's one that is worth it, since you haven't finished it yet.

On page six grows, if you would add, that many in both parties.

See where it's not on page eight?

It's on page six.

Frankly, I wouldn't want him to do this, but whatever.

He obviously is the fellow who made me survive.

I told you not to want that.

I told Connelly that.

I didn't say that for the camera.

I said you have very high plans for Peter in the long haul.

And that you feel that this year...

I think cotton used to be the most valuable time you could spend, and it's kind of the most great strength of feeders that the planet doesn't have.

Some of it, and some of it may be left off, but some of it already has.

It's a lot less abrasive than it used to be.

It's a lot of modesty in cotton feeding.

You guys thought that was about right.

I've seen a couple of pictures over there.

There's a picture of her and then a Chinese guy with some design of it or something.

But not in color?

No, not in color.

Do you really feel that that sapphire thing, do you think it's got to be on?

Yeah, I do.

I'm sure that that is correct, simple, or it's got to be.

But also, it tells a story.

It has to be a story, I'm sure.

But that's the thing I was concerned about with sapphire, is that you might set up the tendency to...

Overbuild it.

It doesn't need the content.

We struck the hell out of them all.

That's one that doesn't need it.

You don't need to say this is the most serious negotiation industry that does it all by itself.

It's like the China announcement.

You get more for it.

A lot of people say, I have to have her.

This is probably a great chance to say something you cannot say.

A real problem, I suppose, is that people will say, well, that's why I try to answer it.

Why do you have to see her?

Because it's like as if you were after something.

I was wondering about that, too.

I wondered about it before we had it, but I think I would recommend it, just to sort of say why we didn't do this.

Warning, of course, would usually end in a secret.

And it makes the point that we were doing public things, too.

And it should stand to see by making the contrast that we made the offers in secret, building good faith in secret, and then they shot us down in the open.

And you said all along, which is the other point, that we are pursuing every channel, and you have said...

I think the fact that Secret Box has been more or less accepted and what they haven't known is the content of it.

And the drama of the fact that it was Henry Kissinger flying over at Paris, that's going to stir up a lot.

How did Henry Kissinger get to Paris 12 times without anybody knowing?

It will also make him think something else is going on, which is not bad.

It will also probably put a death watch, a wire shirt, on Henry Kissinger.

Yeah.

People say, well, why did Kissinger do it?

I don't understand.

The Secretary of State did it by embarrassing secrecy.

Our country, Kissinger, had to send a president.

Had to send a president.

They had to represent a president.

And also he had to represent something out of the state, which is called the Fed, too.

Well, guys, the thing is that the ones that attack us cannot just do this anymore.

You know?

That's a good point.

You need that.

You got it.

I just like to have a few little nuggets to be given.

I think the economy is going to increase.

Big standing.

The whole level of staff is bringing up great big things.

We're going to have to kick off the year on the budget, on the domestic policy initiatives, the foreign policy, general status of where we stand, the legislative program, and the whole thing.

So it's going to bring them all in on that.

Inside, before you go up to hell.

Good.

Good idea.

It's the same.

It's a whole lot more than good.

We're talking about a whole lot more than good.

It's a whole lot more than good.

What do you want to eat?

Bring the chopper in as soon as you figure out how to work it.

The dinner ends.

You get up a few minutes next to me.

You go right to the elevator and go upstairs.

The rest of you guys will fly along.

One of them is sort of the brandy there.

You just wait about ten minutes, probably, and then bring the chopper in.

You have to pull up.

I bring it in.

Yeah, you fly over.

Yeah.

You just go right down to the basement, out of the door.

This is all family, so it's no problem anyway.

Just sit around and say goodbye.

I think over and over, you think we should have A, C, Y. Oh yeah, Y. Yeah, right.

I think it's better if there's A.

Then we should have A. Yeah, that's right.

Okay, good.

I don't think it's any harm at all.

You won't have to come upstairs.

I think we should...

I would like for them to, if I had respect for you or anything, but I can guess that they come and get bruised right away.