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Nixon & MacGregor on Public relations and Political strategy

Tuesday, February 29, 1972 · 2:48 PM–2:50 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); MacGregor, ClarkConversation322-005 on Tape 322 (tape position 00:03:02–00:04:50)StartTuesday, February 29, 1972 at 2:48 PMEndTuesday, February 29, 1972 at 2:50 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 322-005 ↗

President Nixon and Clark MacGregor briefly discussed the ongoing challenges regarding public messaging and the management of political expectations. They addressed the necessity of adding nuance to their outreach efforts while acknowledging the limitations in establishing new governmental institutions. The President encouraged MacGregor to maintain a visible and authoritative presence to help boost morale and maintain momentum for the administration’s agenda.

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He couldn't talk too much today.
And that's why we're trying to get more color.
But they like that, too.
And we can't give them any more institutions because it's all done now.
Yeah, right.
So we told the workers to build something.
We couldn't actually.
No, we couldn't.
Yeah.
We'll get better.
Well, we're glad you're holding court now, Clark.
Thank you.
I could help the spirits with a little bit of push.
OK.
There we go.
Okay.

On February 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Clark MacGregor met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:48 pm to 2:50 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 322-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 322-5

Date: February 29, 1972
Time: 2:48 pm - 2:50 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Clark MacGregor.

[See Conversation No. 20-117]
  • 322-001 2:42 PM · 59 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:42 pm and 2:48 pm.
  • 322-002 2:42 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:42 pm and 2:48 pm.
  • 020-118 2:50 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 2:50 pm to 2:53 pm.
  • 322-006 2:51 PM · 55 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:51 pm to 2:53 pm.
  • 020-119 2:53 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:53 pm and 2:56 pm.
  • 322-007 2:53 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:53 pm and 2:56 pm.
  • 322-008 2:53 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and Lawrence M. Higby met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:53 pm and 2:56 pm.
  • 322-009 2:53 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:53 pm and 2:56 pm.

Conversation 322-005, February 29, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/322-005 (accessed October 2, 2026).