Nixon, Ziegler & Haldeman on Press relations and Economic policy

2:17:34Give it to them, but my God, we don't want it.
2:17:35I'm driving.
2:17:41I'm driving.
2:17:42I'm driving.
2:17:42I'm driving.
2:17:42I'm driving.
2:17:46Yeah, is there anything new I'm planning on doing?
2:17:54I've heard it's gone.
2:17:55I'm going to do it around 5.11 tomorrow.
2:17:58Yeah.
2:17:59Yeah.
2:17:59I just want to try to see what's going on.
2:18:34So, yeah.
2:18:38All right, Ron, why don't you come over, I'll go over to the last one, and then we'll see what happens.
2:19:42Pretty well aware of what they're doing.
2:19:45I think there's a possibility.
2:19:47I don't like that.
2:19:50The recent report that was on the front page of the paper, the statistics for the moral averages, something's on the front page.
2:20:10Tommy did a good job this morning, first he took over this today's show, and I know he would.
2:20:14It was a good one to punch, you see, we all deserve that, and we're going to come still on Sunday.
2:20:22And this is today's show, so I hope you don't even go on the wires, because I'm really surprised.
2:20:26I'll come on right another day.
2:20:31It's kind of a matter of who you want me to say what.
2:20:33You're gracious and charming and soft.
2:20:43I don't think you should be soft.
2:21:06Well, I think there are questions that we could run right over.
2:21:09Connolly and the Mewtwo never let them feel, never let them, Connolly's masters, let them feel that they're getting two yards in any way.
2:21:23Oh, I don't know.
2:21:26And I think a posture of firmness and directness
2:21:35But not to the degree that in any way they can draw the impression that you're angry with them.
2:21:57Right.
2:21:57Never, never.
2:22:02Put them down.
2:22:04One question came, would you smile?
2:22:07Take that one.
2:22:08And then a couple times you were very purposeful.
2:22:11They get the message back.
2:22:13What will be the I think attempting to sense
2:22:34I'm concerned on their part about the attack on the economy.
2:22:35All the guys are out today calling for an economic program.
2:22:37Disaster, and the payboard, and the pro-scandalous, and there should be a congressional investigation, and there should be a statistical chart.
2:22:41That's what you're saying, isn't it?
2:23:03They'll be looking to detect any presidential concern about these things.
2:23:12What did Stein do?
2:23:14Stein?
2:23:14Yes, he did.
2:23:17Well, I think he did all right.
2:23:22A weak statement.
2:23:24He's done a weak statement.
2:23:28That's true, but not a very believable statement is.
2:23:32Take aside, if you put aside food prices, then everything is going good.
2:23:37That's good from a standard perspective.
2:23:39Technically, I've argued about food prices.
2:23:40And the paid price commission is looking at it from the neighborhood.
2:23:43So we're going to see if they come down.
2:23:46As Conley said today, the directors of the private industry are doing very well.
2:23:53Instead of saying, as he did, which played fairly high.
2:23:59I'm not being critical of it.
2:24:01No, I don't know.
2:24:02If the spokesman says, if you put food prices aside, then what comes out is, what would the economic advisors say?
2:24:10Put food prices aside, things like that.
2:24:14When that gets out into the news, a lot of people say, what do you need food prices aside?
2:24:19How do you do that?
2:24:20I don't understand this.
2:24:21It doesn't make any school about it this much.
2:24:26It wouldn't like to start coming down to 14,000.
2:25:29It might come, the question might come on the vice president today, because he said in, I think it was in New Orleans, I'm not sure if it would be, but he made it in 1972.
2:25:35So he hasn't told you why he made this decision.
2:25:38He said the president had consulted with him and wanted to make this decision.
2:25:41It was not a negative story on his part, it was a mistake.
2:25:59I'm going to comment on laws.
2:26:10I'm going to comment on the balance.
2:26:30Well, that's the set of paths, I know.
2:26:42But it's still...
2:27:01Your position has been all along that we draw down below the presidency.
2:27:13Right, we have equal time for senators.
2:27:21That was taken.
2:27:59Ja.
2:27:59Ja.
2:27:59Ja.
2:28:32I don't think they're oppressive in the debate today, but if they do, if they raise it, it seems to me that the position you were elected to 40 years ago, that you are receiving the policies that you've been given to the best interests of the American people, now there are a lot of people who want your job, who would like to be president, and you haven't seen them in any problems.
2:29:33I'm not making any political speeches.
2:29:38I'm not answering any partisan political questions.
2:29:48Because if you say anything you say on the debate question...
2:30:00I think the whole thing is building that wall and that thing protects us from all the wild stuff.
2:30:11Also, you see, that's a good answer.
2:30:14That's a good answer about a whole lot of stuff that's trying to report us.
2:31:03Preston had a point on me that Preston had something to say to me as many as he's willing to go.
2:31:12Logan, I have a silver question to get to.
2:31:15Is it in other countries when you are landing?
2:31:19We don't know yet.
2:31:20Other countries and also other cities.
2:31:23Assault agreement, other trade initiatives.
2:31:26We don't know yet.
2:32:36He stayed above that.
2:32:39Truman got in with him.
2:32:48He would have defended his, Jerry Herring would have said nothing.
2:33:32In this case, charges have been made, none have been approved.
2:33:36Your next question, gentlemen.
2:33:38See my point?
2:33:40Don't you think that's a good little way to make it?
2:33:48The other difference is the personal name.
2:33:52It wasn't word much, but nobody stated it on the tape.
2:34:01I don't listen to you, though.
2:34:04And this time, the, uh, really funny, well, frankly, I don't understand.
2:34:10I don't understand whether they're intellectual, and it's kind of incredible to find three or four of them, and they, uh, like to support it.
2:34:24But I think, you know, people like, uh, like Nick Tankish, and, uh, and, uh,
2:35:00Personally, not unfriendly, let's put it that way.
2:35:02You could say personally friendless, maybe they're five, and then you could say personally not unfriendly, and there you leave, including the wire service guy like Claire Mayer.
2:35:11I don't consider him unfriendly.
2:35:14No, he's not.
2:35:17And I don't consider him unfriendly.
2:35:19No, no, no.
2:35:20Or, or, or, sure.
2:35:20I know wire service people, other than generally are not unfriendly.
2:35:25They have to be very, very objective.
2:35:34Next week.
2:35:45Take a week.
2:35:45I want to start right at first.
2:35:55So if you...
2:35:58Or they will not expect you before the 3 o'clock.
2:36:01They expect you right after 3 o'clock.
2:36:02They start making 2 minutes after about 5.
2:36:06You can go in at 3.
2:36:09I'll go in at 3 and say to the president, Adam, we're going to start at 5 after 3, and that way you're cutting.
2:36:17You don't have to go over there and tell me.
2:36:21I'll have them cut.
2:36:24I'll have them cut.
2:36:24They're hitting and squealing around.
2:36:55You say it.
2:36:56I'll say it.
2:36:57I'll say, gentlemen, the president is good.
2:37:00We've started five acts, and we should be making 30 to 35 minutes.
2:37:03Let Carmere say it.
2:37:0430 minutes after it's gone.
2:37:06Hold 30 minutes after it starts.
2:37:08Keep it tight.
2:37:09Hold 30 minutes, though I don't mean for the timeline.
2:37:13That will not fill a bunch of minutes.
2:37:24All over the line.
2:37:26Does he have a respect for oppressed people and individuals?
2:37:32I know they like him, but do they respect him at all times?
2:37:39I've been talking to him.
2:37:39I know they're on a bus.
2:37:40No, I don't.
2:37:41No, they don't give a shit.
2:37:43They're just like people.
2:37:50I wonder, his name, or how do you know he lives there?
2:37:52Well, he lives there.
2:37:55What did he say, about 6,000?
2:37:58No, no, no.
2:37:58He's talking about the direction.
2:38:04He said all of the Democrats and Senators.
2:38:08Huh?
2:38:09He said all of the Democrats and Senators.
2:38:17The question is, why haven't they done something?
2:38:22The economy must be settled.
2:39:27I hit a bus with kids on it, and cut it right in two.
2:39:30And killed about three high school kids.
2:39:33In fact, how was the bus going on the railroad?
2:39:37Well, it was going to the school, driving to the school, and it was going across and across.
2:39:43I can't quite say if buses were supposed to stop on the railroad.
2:39:47I don't know.
2:39:49I mean, it was across the mark, but it didn't have any flash.
2:39:52It might have been a school train, I don't know.
2:39:55I think it was going to explode.
2:39:59I guess one yard.
2:40:04Correct.
2:40:04But it cut it in two.
2:40:12It was.
2:40:13It was not.
2:40:19Thank God.
2:40:58But you cannot say that the black school is inferior.
2:41:02That's the other thing.
2:41:03That's right.
2:41:04But that's one thing we're driving at.
2:41:06They'll ask that question to attempt to make their charge and substantiate their charge with your efforts to go back and remake it.
2:41:21See, we're not asking you to get into whether or not
2:41:33They don't know what they want to do.
2:41:37They'll talk to them in the office.
2:41:39They'll talk about busing or to achieve a better education.
2:41:43They haven't even done it.
2:41:45What you're suggesting is that you close down every school in the central city to bus all the children out to suburban schools.
2:41:56How do you accomplish that?
2:41:59You can't do it.
2:41:59They will all be in a minority world area.
2:42:01The schools will be run by whites, where the whites will be in the majority.
2:42:04Plus, the system couldn't happen.
2:42:05In other words, that's a point of change, basically.
2:42:09Bussing cannot achieve that height.
2:42:12In other words, bussing cannot achieve that height.
2:42:13There's no way to develop it.
2:42:15The transportation system cannot achieve that height.
2:42:21The last time I will give them one in the office when they leave,
2:42:59My general feeling is that the press conference
2:43:33Stand for me.
2:43:35You see, I... Well, yes, I could have one.
2:43:37I've got to do something about it.
2:43:39You can't forget even the option.
2:43:42The other option.
2:43:43Why?
2:43:43The difficulty with that, though, is that we're quite huge in the whole business world.
2:43:59They then select out whatever they want to distribute.
2:44:01I'm never going to do that, because they're going to be televised.
2:44:03And I agree with you, you're not reading it.
2:44:08If the audience is helpful or something.
2:44:13In the office, is there any further demand?
2:44:18No, I think... Well, I think the schedule for this deadline makes sense.
2:44:25Well, I think a month is better for me.
2:44:28All right.
2:44:36...as you have done, as you did yesterday.
2:44:42Oh, that's right.
2:44:42And then I think the other is, you know, the campaign.
2:44:53The opportunities for shorter sessions.
2:44:58You have one point tonight.
2:44:59Just to break the announcement.
2:45:00That's what I mean.
2:45:10I see that the press conference from the White House during that period
2:45:40It certainly is a contrast.
2:45:43It's a contrast between...
2:45:44But also, even then, that phrase, you might consider having one...
2:45:47The White House is better, but still saying that many of the Western White Houses have good locations.
2:46:00As a matter of fact, how much did you buy?
2:46:04Did you go out?
2:46:07Next month or two, it would be the location to do one.
2:46:10Well, we don't plan to go out, but we can now.
2:46:12I won't go out to San Clemente now.
2:46:15I will go out to Democratic Convention, but that's a time that I'd like to ask everybody to take a good, good vacation.
2:46:27There's no reason to try to fight that for this country.
2:46:31I believe that should help me get there.
2:46:39They'll have quite a gang of people.
2:46:44Just so we can get into our subject of having this international press conference.
2:46:56We can be satellite.
2:47:02Yes, we've discussed that.
2:47:04I wonder if this is a good idea.
2:47:11But on the other hand, it puts me in this position of answering for the policy, but it's a little weird.
2:47:22Which is what we want, you know, rather than the oligarchs that want to light up the bird.
2:47:27After the trip, it's always moving around.
2:47:33I've stayed off of them.
2:47:35Do you have a specific target for them?
2:47:40Put that down.
2:47:40Discuss it with Bob.
2:47:44That might be a very good way to handle that, rather than doing a press conference here.
2:47:59How do you do that?
2:48:10I would like to be as aggressive as he is.
2:48:15I'm very much tempted to at times.
2:48:19But I don't think Ron, even though he does it nicely, I don't think that he will run over quite as hard.
2:48:26Do you agree or not?
2:48:28Absolutely.
2:48:28His personality comes off very hard.
2:48:31His manner is very hard.
2:48:32For example, he's one, just as he cannot...
2:48:39His personality has not led itself to the point where he soon approached Washington.
2:48:48He's one of the few people I know who could have picked up those charges long enough.
2:48:57He used to sit down and ask one question, and within two minutes he had every line out, including the last visit to Maine he had.
2:49:04Before going any further, all of a sudden he had on the screen these charges.
2:49:08He was holding them up.
2:49:10point to the decline, and so forth.
2:49:11He went on to another question, he said, I have another chart on that.
2:49:13It just was a long program of charts, so it was a lot of lines going down.
2:49:15And he got to point across, and I think he told us, he was in a way, he got around by saying, how long did you find it to be short?
2:49:30And then he talked about it.
2:49:37Very interesting.
2:49:40Advocate.
2:49:40Advocate.
2:49:41Right.
2:49:41How do you do it?
2:49:42He's not getting as much...
2:49:45How does he do it in person?
2:49:46You don't want to do it?
2:49:47He loves to get off a little bit of my mind.
2:50:09I think you're right.
2:50:11Well, I don't dislike it, actually.
2:50:16I suppose the newsman comes off more on the offensive than he does on the office.
2:50:28And I think that, you know, part of the power should be on the office.
2:50:34I don't know if it's a matter of technique,
2:50:40As much as it is the combination of technique here in the back, you've generally hit the questions you need to answer, and that's the response.
2:50:54But I'd like to see more on the offense.
2:50:58You realize that I'm remaining here over one question.
2:51:04Part of the economy that is controlled
2:51:10Those prices, they're all going down, right?
2:51:17I'll say that, and then I'll go on to say that we're very disappointed.
2:51:27I mean, after all, people were an advantage as a major part of their bill.
2:51:36I know that, and that's why I'm very happy, very glad that
2:51:40Price Commission has investigated that profit margins are too big.
2:51:48Middleman are making too much.
2:51:50You can't make far-reaching scapegoats.
2:51:53You want one-third.
2:51:56You're going to have to look into that one-third.
2:51:59It's that hard.
2:52:01It's very hard, I guess.

Nixon, Ziegler & Haldeman on Press relations and Economic policy

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