Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 326 › Conversation 326-020

Nixon & Ziegler on Economic policy and Unemployment statistics

Friday, March 24, 1972 · 2:05 PM–2:06 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation326-020 on Tape 326 (tape position 02:52:02–02:54:56)StartFriday, March 24, 1972 at 2:05 PMEndFriday, March 24, 1972 at 2:06 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 326-020 ↗

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler discuss strategies to counter criticism of the administration's economic policies, specifically regarding unemployment figures. Nixon emphasizes that critics are selectively highlighting specific statistical data to allege policy failure while ignoring the broader, more positive economic trajectory. They agree to adopt a more assertive messaging strategy to defend the administration's overall economic record.

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On March 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:05 pm to 2:06 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 326-020 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 326-20

Date: March 24, 1972
Time: 2:05 pm - 2:06 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

[See Conversation No. 22-18]

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It's easy for a critic to pick out one figure out of a full series and out of ten and claim failure.
That's exactly what you're doing.
Everyone who's claimed failure
of the table, everyone who's claimed failure in the economic policy is basing it on 5.5, 5.6%.
Nothing else they can think of.
And hopefully, because even including the 5.6% is less than a little poor overall during the six months.
But in the six months, that's right.
Previous, there's one for the better.
The last, there's one for the better.
There's one for the better.
Yeah.
Maybe five minutes before.
I think I ought to do wire services first.
Yeah.
Bye.
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Conversation 326-020, March 24, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/326-020 (accessed November 15, 2026).