President Nixon and Charles W. Colson discussed the political strategy surrounding the President’s upcoming Philadelphia speech regarding federal aid for non-public schools. They evaluated potential opposition from the National Education Association and fundamentalist groups, while weighing the support of Catholic leadership, specifically Cardinal John Krol. Additionally, the participants reviewed campaign intelligence regarding the George McGovern organization and discussed the scheduling of upcoming Senate hearings concerning the ITT case.
On April 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:45 am to 12:23 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 330-017 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding AidConversation No. 330-17
Date: April 5, 1972
Time: 11:45 am - 12:23 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Charles W. Colson.
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The President's Philadelphia speech on non-public education
John Cardinal Krol
-Conversation with Colson
-Reaction to the President's visit
-Dinner
-1968 campaign
-White House church service
-Remarks concerning the President
-1968
-Catholics' views
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:45 am.
Refreshment
-Calories
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:23 pm.
The President's Philadelphia speech on non-public education
-Opposition
-John B. Connally
-Reasons
-Aid for non-public education
-Public schools
-Lack of confidence
-Need for religion
-Criticisms
-Fundamentalists
-National Education Association [NEA]
-Colson's meeting with Krol
-The President's convictions
-Krol's understanding of the Catholic Church
-Respect for the President
-Domestic Council
-Conflicts
-John Dewey
-Progressive education proponents
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Margaret Chase Smith
-Ed [Surname unknown]
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
-The President's convictions
-Connally's remarks
-Richardson
-Tax credits
-Support for aid
-Prejudice
-Antagonism
-NEA
-Political damage
-Knights of Columbus
-Southern Baptists
-Fred Rose
-Assessment
-Southern Baptists
Catholics
-Views on population control
-Timing
-Patricia Colson
-Abortion
-Colson's church attendance
-Literature
-Opposition to abortion and legalization of marijuana
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Campaign practices
-Reports from inside George S. McGovern organization
-Compared with George W. Romney
-Lack of humor
-Organization
-Strength
-Douglas L. Hallett
-Former roommate
-Providing information to White House
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Congress
-Check-off Bill
-Presidential veto
-Reasons
-Press coverage
-Bipartisan support
-Passage in Senate
-Conference consideration
-House
Colson's conversation with unknown person
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Campaign practices
-Theoretical attack by McGovern
-Use of rumor
-Missouri
-New Hampshire
-Photographs
-Oregon primary
-Press coverage
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International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case
-Senate Judiciary Committee hearings
-Schedule
-Colson's conversation with Wallace H. Johnson
-Hiram L. Fong
-Strom Thurmond
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
-James O. Eastland
-Hugh Scott
-Charles McC. Mathias, Jr.
-Witnesses
-Clark MacGregor
-Richard G.Kleindienst
-John N. Mitchell
-Robert C. Mardian
-Roman L. Hruska
Education
-The President's Philadelphia speech draft
-John K. Andrews, Jr.
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Note to Colson
-Nuances
-Religion
-Buchanan
-Sensitivities to Catholic view
Colson left at 12:23 pm.This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.