Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 330 › Conversation 330-018

Nixon & Sanchez on Political strategy and Clark MacGregor

Wednesday, April 5, 1972 · 12:23 PM–1:32 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, ManoloConversation330-018 on Tape 330 (tape position 03:00:35–03:01:44)StartWednesday, April 5, 1972 at 12:23 PMEndWednesday, April 5, 1972 at 1:32 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 330-018 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon consults with his valet, Manolo Sanchez, regarding legislative strategy and political maneuvering related to an upcoming executive session. The discussion touches upon managing witness lists, specifically mentioning Clark MacGregor, and navigating potential biases during proceedings. The President emphasizes the necessity of taking a firm stance despite the adversarial nature of the situation.

Audio

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NARA Description

On April 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:23 pm and 1:32 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 330-018 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 330-18

Date: April 5, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:23 pm and 1:32 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Manolo Sanchez..

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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:32 pm.

Transcript (AI-generated)

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If they have to go over to East U.S., then Eastland just has to hold the parade and not cover it.
The difficulty is when we get into the executive session, I can just see, I can see the bias sort of pushing me out.
Let's have a list of witnesses, let's have two weeks for the case.
Throughout two weeks, and I'll ask, they'll know that I'm going to open up other ones, unless it will be small, because it's going to be bad.
At this point, it's going to be hard lines.
And our folks understand that.
McGregor is on that list.
I think that's good.
They're doing what they like to do.
Well, okay.
Well, who is it?
A...
I must say, I have no idea who it is.
If you go to your next crib, I bet you can put the lures on.

Also recorded on April 5, 1972

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  • 022-086 11:43 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 11:43 am to 11:44 am.
  • 330-015 11:43 AM · 30 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:43 am to 11:44 am.
  • 330-016 11:44 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry M. ("Scoop") Jackson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:44 am and 11:45 am.
  • 330-017 11:45 AM · 38 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:45 am to 12:23 pm.
  • 330-019 12:23 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:23 pm and 1:32 pm.
  • 330-020 12:23 PM · 53 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:23 pm and 1:32 pm.
  • 330-021 12:23 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:23 pm and 1:32 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 330-018, April 5, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/330-018 (accessed November 15, 2026).