Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 332 › Conversation 332-038

Nixon & Kissinger on Presidential speech and Speechwriting

Tuesday, April 25, 1972 · 1:10 PM–1:15 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 43 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.Conversation332-038 on Tape 332 (tape position 04:56:51–04:57:31)StartTuesday, April 25, 1972 at 1:10 PMEndTuesday, April 25, 1972 at 1:15 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 332-038 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Henry Kissinger met briefly to discuss the President's upcoming speech. They confirmed that speechwriters Winston Lord and John K. Andrews, Jr. were already working on a draft. Nixon expressed a desire to review the draft that evening to ensure it was in good shape for the following day, and they agreed to work on it around eight o'clock.

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NARA Description

On April 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:10 pm and 1:15 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 332-038 of the White House Tapes.

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Conversation No. 332-38

Date: April 25, 1972
Time: Unknown between 1:10 pm and 1:15 pm
Location: Old Executive Office Building

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

     The President's speech
          -Work of Winston Lord and John K. Andrews, Jr.

     The President's meeting with Kissinger
          -Schedule
          -Review of speech
          -Time

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KissingerWinston and John Andrews are already at work on the draft.
NixonYeah. What is John Andrews?
KissingerHe's one of the speechwriters.
NixonOh, yes. I would like to do this, Henry. If we could—is there any chance we could work on it tonight?
KissingerAbsolutely.
NixonBecause if we—at least have one review tonight, then we'd have it in good shape for tomorrow.
KissingerYes, I think that would be essential, Mr. President.
NixonYeah. Then I can sleep on it. You can look at it overnight. Tomorrow, it's just polish. You see what I mean?
KissingerThat would be best.
NixonLet's—could we work on it around eight o'clock?
KissingerAny time. Eight o'clock is fine.
NixonWould that give them time to get through?
KissingerI will take a ride—
NixonFine.

Also recorded on April 25, 1972

  • 023-060 12:50 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:50 pm and 1:09 pm.
  • 332-036 12:50 PM · 27 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:50 pm and 1:09 pm.
  • 023-061 1:09 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John K. Andrews, Jr. talked on the telephone from 1:09 pm to 1:10 pm.
  • 332-037 1:09 PM · 56 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John K. Andrews, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:09 pm to 1:10 pm.
  • 332-039 1:15 PM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Winston Lord, John K. Andrews, Jr., and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:15 pm to 1:33 pm.
  • 023-062 1:33 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:33 pm and 1:38 pm.
  • 332-040 1:33 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:33 pm and 1:38 pm.
  • 332-041 1:33 PM · 36 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:33 pm and 1:38 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 332-038, April 25, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/332-038 (accessed November 5, 2026).