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Conversation 036-140

TapeTape 36StartTuesday, January 23, 1973 at 12:09 PMEndTuesday, January 23, 1973 at 1:39 PMParticipantsHaldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  White House operatorRecording deviceWhite House Telephone
AI Summary

H. R. Haldeman consulted William E. Timmons to assess the sentiment of Mike Mansfield regarding a proposed joint session of Congress. Timmons reported that Mansfield expressed logistical concerns about the late notice, though he remained skeptical of Mansfield's underlying motives. Ultimately, they concluded that while Mansfield would cooperate if necessary, he would prefer that the President not pursue the appearance.

Mike MansfieldWilliam E. TimmonsJoint Session of CongressLegislative RelationsLogistics
AudioNARA Description

On January 23, 1973, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:09 pm and 1:39 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 036-140 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 36-140

Date: January 23, 1973
Time: Unknown between 12:09 pm and 1:39 pm
Location: White House Telephone

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman talked with the White House operator.

[See also Conversation No. 404-11C]

       Request for a telephone call to William E. Timmons

Haldeman talked with Timmons.

       Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield evaluation
            -Possible joint session of Congress
            -The President’s possible statement
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Yes, sir.
Timmy Timmons, please.
Thank you.
I'm going to call him.
I want to get a reading on his...
The Mansfield evaluation.
Because all I got was the message that Mansfield said.
Bill, was it your feeling that Mansfield wants him to come but feels there's a problem or doesn't want him to come?
How do you read his tone and so on?
Doesn't want him to come.
Does not want him to come.
That's my guess.
Okay.
He said that he would, of course, you know, participate.
help but he thought it was too late he wouldn't make any issue but he you think he doesn't want to come really because of logistics or is he using that as an excuse i don't know bob i i couldn't i didn't want to probe that he did say that it was was very late for a joint session he said it wouldn't be over till nearly 11 o'clock and the members might not show up and putting it together at this late date and he kind of used the logistics argument but whether he was really concerned about
The president using Congress as a backdrop, I couldn't tell.
But on balance, you think his view was that he should not come?
Yeah.
But he would be fully cooperative if he did?
That's correct.
Okay, thank you.
Bye.
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