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Conversation 363-011

TapeTape 363StartTuesday, August 8, 1972 at 3:45 PMEndTuesday, August 8, 1972 at 4:08 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Woods, Rose MaryRecording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AI Summary

President Nixon met with his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to discuss various administrative and personal matters, including the hiring of an aide to assist First Lady Pat Nixon with travel and wardrobe. The President also provided instructions regarding a report by financial analyst Pierre Rinfret, specifically directing that John Ehrlichman address the perceived liberal bias of financial writers. Additionally, the pair discussed the President’s reading habits and health concerns regarding the family dog, King Timahoe.

Pat NixonStaffingPierre RinfretJohn EhrlichmanKing TimahoeAdministration
AudioNARA Description

On August 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 4:08 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 363-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 363-11

Date: August 8, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:45 pm and 4:08 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods.

             Woods's health
                -The President's health
                -Gen. Walter R. Tkach

             Unknown person’s schedule

                                    (rev. Nov-03)

          Employment of an unknown woman
             -Republican National Convention
             -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
             -Leave of absence
             -Duties of possible position
                 -Mrs. Nixon
                 -Daughters

          Note
              -Unknown woman

          Scheduling
              -Key Biscayne
                  -Unknown woman

          [First name unknown] Susquin (sp?)

          Report
             -Pierre Rinfret
             -John D. Ehrlichman's reply
             -Financial writers
                  -Biases
             -Instruction for Ehrlichman
                  -The President’s schedule
                       -Forthcoming Cabinet meeting at Camp David
                  -Rinfret
             -Letter

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                                      (rev. Nov-03)

            Unknown book
               -Mobilization of press
               -Mobilization of Senate
               -Space program
               -War in Vietnam
                   -Cambodian incursion
                   -The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
                   -The President’s reading

            Mr. and Mrs. Edward A. McCabe

            [King Timahoe]
                -Unknown beach
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Oh, I didn't get a chance to finish it, but how would you do it?
I got a little of that book myself.
I got over it last weekend, but the car sales, that's right.
Yeah, yeah.
Great.
Great.
I'll be all ready.
Good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You might check to see what he wants me to wear.
I think they pretty much got .
5, 9, 10.
10, 11, 12.
Okay, well, that's all set.
Everybody's happy with it.
And you got the, you got that?
Yeah.
That's right.
We, what we, I told her to put her on, I told her to put, put her on full-time anyway.
She used to be on, like, invention on.
So I'm going to go get her right now.
And she's going to be able to put her on payroll until that's done.
You know?
Sure, sure.
Pat talked about it, and I said, absolutely, absolutely.
She wants to take a leave of absence, and I said, anyway, we want to, and I said, sure, we'll put her on for you now in November.
She's very useful.
Pat likes her.
She loves her with her clothes, you know.
She can travel with her.
She can do the drills there, you know, with other people.
It's just great.
It's just great.
She'll feel better about it.
And also, when we're away from them, there's something unexpected that comes up.
We don't have it a lot.
I had a note I had to ask you, and I let you know.
Yeah.
Well, I'll kind of wait for it.
I'll ask you about it.
Thank you.
No, wait a minute.
No, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't want the man to put his joint up in the air.
Maybe it's better that she sees him when we're out there and she has a chance to look at him.
There we go.
There we go.
Okay.
There's nothing else to ask me about.
Right in the back.
That's right.
Are we taking this suspect?
I noticed you prevented him from watching.
Certainly not.
It's all that I have to watch.
Right.
Okay.
It's a bit of a natural.
Oh, no, he's wrong.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Now, let's see if he got better than that.
He held the thing pretty good, a hell of a good idea there.
Send that to Earl.
and tell him that I want an answer prepared along the lines of things that we have discussed with friends of mine.
And Frank, you haven't answered everything.
You ought to talk to him about it.
No, that's totally wrong.
Totally wrong.
Totally wrong.
You ought to...
But he's absolutely right.
Absolutely right.
And he's very, very right.
And that's the right answer.
are that way because basically they're sort of on the liberal left.
They want to redistribute the wealth, but most of them aren't paid that much.
That's really what they're down to.
I think so.
Tell John.
So, John, when you talk to him, and I'll be gone now, I think, after that meeting for the once-in-a-catholic meeting, so sometimes if you ought to...
If you ought to get Rick Gray in and chat with him a little bit about the presentation, make him stand to his feet.
Okay?
Fine.
I just don't want to throw form a letter out here.
Okay.
Fine.
All right.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
Great fun.
It has to do with a lot of the same things we're doing.
The way they mobilize the press and the way they mobilize the senators and the rest.
Oh, it's fascinating, right?
They could put this book, frankly, if I had to take this book and insert some of the space program, the Nixon fight in the war in Vietnam, the same thing.
and the Cambodian exercise, and how that's been done, and then the May 8th, and how that's been done.
Oh, I know, I know.
That was the best thing.
Damn good book, too.
Yeah.
I read the whole thing.
In between, blank, blank.
Yeah.
You got my note about the McCabe's.
I wanted it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nice, great hand glasses.
Good.
Great.
Black.
Oh yeah, we heard about that.
That's why we took him for a shot today.
Oh, we wouldn't do it?
Oh, we don't plan to.
Oh, good.
We didn't know about that.
Yeah, well, where were we?
We didn't hurt.
We got there, but there was some kind of a dog disease.
Oh yes, it's very nice.
Beautiful beach and grass, but apparently there's something on the grass out there that's bad for dogs.
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