On November 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Raymond K. Price, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:04 am to 10:43 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 379-011 of the White House Tapes.
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What they have, they have I think a hundred with this election.
I just don't want to see them on the wall.
This person drives a TV, people on the wall.
That's the kind of person that I get on TV.
And it's wrong, you know.
Well, that's what I've been saying.
My account admits that anybody who calls us, it is no problem because anybody who calls me
There have been, the, the, the, by heck, this is a British trial where the shell owner invites a man, rather than a man, to do that to an officer, in other words.
But where there is a deliberate, organized campaign to shell down the people who cannot deliver, or something, we can't do.
Like when I was in the U.S. Army Division, there was a big rally that was organized in Greece in the year 2000, people in that country.
Well, they thought I didn't cry.
I don't know what I can do with my people, but they're not going to get the hell out of there.
Because, see, they have the head for 12 months.
I have public, they have control of my people.
And I'm just whack, whack, whack, whack.
You can't read what I'm saying.
In other words, the time that you can go for a rally on the streets, you just don't want to.
Actually, that's what's better.
It's different styles, but it really does, it's always good.
Now, when you stop at the end of it, then you come around to it.
Why do you need it for a rally?
So a rally is $22,000.
At McCartney Place, I could have $50,000.
I could have $55,000.
And we have to go all around.
But that isn't the best place for me.
The best place would be radio events.
We have anywhere from two and a half to five to six million people listening.
I like to go around.
So it's an enormously effective way to stay thoughtful
and I understood that the day of the live speech, before the rap was gone, the next speech now went to a full-time fellow audience.
and some of the other people in the English market, so we wanted to sort of, sort of, sort of eat over the feedback, you know, and, uh, and that part of it's a nice little, like a, like a record, and then that's sort of replaced.
But when you really come down to it, the, the, the radio, and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
So he told me, he told me very personally, he said, well, that can't, until you're talking to people, what is it, personally?
But again, let's come back to the question.
Does it really, does it really matter all that much to get before a group of people?
Spell out the same kind of stuff with the, with the...
Certainly a rally is out.
Maybe some selected audiences of so-called opinionators and people.
Like, for example, I would have no objection to making a major speech for senators.
If I could do that, there's no problem.
They're there to listen.
That's fine.
But the idea is to put a major speech on a college campus.
It's fine.
Not because of us, but because of them.
They don't want it.
It's fine.
Even the best colleagues, there is one that wouldn't shut you down.
Wouldn't shut you down.
I'm a doctor.
Wouldn't shut you down.
Right?
But what the hell do you do?
You can go in.
I can't even pull the whistle.
Jesus Christ.
I mean, that's, uh... See, that is... You can't do it in this office.
I cannot...
I cannot subject the office to that.
So you've got to communicate.
Give you the radio thing.
Let me say it again.
I like the fact that you don't...
I like the fact that they're highly responsible.
And then finally, we really are letting down one hell of a record.
I mean, I'm not sure what it is.
I don't understand.
I don't know.
Maybe somebody's going to discover it.
I don't know.
On the other hand, you haven't seen it.
Really, we haven't seen it.
It was a projection.
It was all about a month ago.
People say, we've read it well, and it's true.
So you say that.
No, no, no, no.
They stop saying it.
They stop saying it.
Are they?
Are we confused?
I think they are.
And they've got to pay attention.
We've got a lot more to explain.
Let them play the arms.
I mean, it's really painful sometimes.
You know, sometimes it's not as bad.
Well, I feel the most, you know, in my life, it's all a bit of a big mistake.
So they have to play as if someone, others, were there.
That basically, if we've ever had anything to believe, it would be a little bit of a question.
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And they're damn good.
Speeches are good.
They're well written.
They're temperate.
Some of them get it on.
Some of them get fed up.
Right.
And we say, that's what it's like.
What were you going to say?
Well, I was going to say that even without the bars, the black bars, it has been pretty well.
And I forgot why you asked that.
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Procurement was released in Vermont.
That's much better than a speech in Brooklyn, L.A. And, of course, what I should ask you about was what the first one was, what the manipulation was.
At this time, of course, what they've done is add it all up.
There isn't any question about the philosophical difference.
Because everybody needs to do what I would say are responsible, you know, moderate work, are responsible to serve you.
Why?
With progressive overtime.
And, you know, they have to, you know, not have to do that.
Well, coming to this, we've got about 2,300 words.
And we got going for, you know, three or four hundred, five or six years.
I haven't had a chance to work in this field, but the points that
First, I think we've got to find a way to fit it in.
I think it should be high enough, but I think perhaps
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Obviously, an issue that I know that I haven't stated on that point.
that you know of uh, that well, I don't say that you don't know, I just say I, I don't mind, I don't mind, I don't mind that you know, uh, you know, that you've made major progress or whatever, you've made major progress toward reaching the mission.
So, we're achieving our goal to survive.
And I get up, and I'm like, I want, I want, I want to go there specifically.
The choice here is peace with honor and peace with surrender.
That's not a great choice.
The choice is, therefore, I ask, that's the choice that I ask the American people to make.
That is, I want to continue to pursue this goal to achieve peace for honor.
And I ask for your support.
I want to put it that way.
I want to provide for your support.
So I'd say it.
And there are times when people will be watching this election.
That's another line I want to mention.
Obviously, it's a common thing.
It's common.
People will be watching it.
But also, in this world here, people will be watching it.
They will be watching it in the past.
They will be watching it in the future.
And they will be watching it in the long run.
And with regard to this, that I ordered,
The question of all of them is quite clear, obviously, now.
But the fight is that, regardless, that, uh, that, uh, yeah, that, uh, that, without saying how I feel, is belief.
that I would ever, that I, those who have believed that there was an election deadline, that I would make the, that they force us, or stand against, and to make the wrong kind of things, or to make concessions, have COVID restrictions.
And they are suggesting that we have worked this long war and at this point we have laid down the conditions and these conditions must be met.
One, the return of all our people to a ceasefire, to run and return.
Third, the right of the people to self-determine, not their own future.
without having a communist government, a coalition government.
A communist coalition government imposed upon them.
And that's a real matter.
Whatever you want with that, it won't make sense.
The communist village government, you get fired.
And also, as a matter of fact, the settlement.
The settlement that we are now discussing is one that will achieve these goals.
However, there are still some details to be worked on.
Some would say, why worry about the details?
They're the world.
However, my study initially, and particularly recently, shows us that the details can be
that can be crucially important.
Particularly, for example, in the 1968 bombing, which came before the elections, we agreed to it with the best of intentions.
But it was not nailed down.
There were misunderstandings as to what had happened.
And the war went on.
And in this case,
All we were trying to do, sure, I want to summon the last.
I want unarmed.
I want them to depend on you, and we will be reasonable.
But we want no misunderstanding on that critical.
That is, that is, that's what remains to be negotiated.
I am confident we can achieve that goal, but we're not, we're not going to allow election deadlines to, or any to force us into the wrong, into the wrong kind of cycle.
One would be to bring the temporary peace rather than the lasting peace.
One would be to bring the
What we want to lose here is the impression that, one, we have made great progress.
that there is, I can tell you, not that word.
So, you know, we're probably going to have to say that.
We know what we're going to be doing.
So, but my question is, I don't want to say that.
So, but on that note, I don't want to deny the hopes of people that we're going to handle it soon.
So we've made progress.
I have confidence that the big few
I had, for the first time, I have talked to him for the first time, in this long negotiation, say that we can now, with confidence, look forward to a negotiated settlement for achieving our goal of peace with Iran and so forth.
However, there are problems.
And those problems must be worked up.
I insist that they be worked up.
And I insist on it because if they aren't worked up, it will simply mean
That the war could go on.
Or that everything we have fought for could be lost.
And I ask the support of the American people for continuing to seek peace with honor.
The choice is for who takes peace with honor or peace with sin.
The men of Iowa will be watching.
The whole world will be watching.
I predict that they will be watching.
And I, since the choice is over, I ask the American people to, I ask for your support, continued support, because you have been so generous to me, I mean so graciously, generously, responsibly, in the past, of seeking peace with us, which was great for our goal.
Now that's basically the video that I'd like to take, I'd like you to take that back,
I haven't played with him for a while.
It's actually the guidance that we want.
And that's totally different from what you've got to think about.
He doesn't intend to apologize to you.
Apologize is terribly important.
When I say apologize, I mean not even a word of apologize.
A word of apologize.
I don't want to take a line and break it off with him.
But I've got to take a line that we're not going to respect.
In fact, I think the line reassures you, but doesn't go so far as to say immediately that the right, as far as the American politics is concerned, we've got to remove any part of doubt, any sort of a doubt, that we will play politics against the term.
I have said that we will not play politics against the term.
And it is more important to get the right agreement after the election.
and to get the wrong group before it's done.
And we're going to have to see what I mean.
So that I can inspire the confidence that we're going to not come back forward again.
We have made progress.
I am confident that we're going to make it.
However, we're going to have to nail down and clear it up.
It is vital that they be cleared up, because our experience shows that when we have settlements that are not terribly worked out, that are not meticulously nailed down, they lead only to a temporary decrease.
For example, the Laotian settlements.
Now, that is why, at this time, I am back where I am presenting.
I will continue to, probably, to resist any attempt to stand to this and do something before anyone.
I mean, it would have been the right time, the right time to discuss America.
I'll be supporting by the time we do that.
And, uh, we, uh, but then ask the people that know Hanoi over Washington, over the New York branch, and we, uh, that is, uh, I would say the leaders of Hanoi, and the leaders inside Hanoi, and that we want to do one piece of the last.
It's one variable size to put that word in that much of a compound part of the information.
But one of them will be peaceful on the road and so on and so on.
And there will not be .
We cannot agree to and we will not agree to inform
to form our zone, we will not agree to the imposition of the mandate of the coalition government of the people of South Vietnam.
The people of South Vietnam who suffer must be one who guarantees the people of South Vietnam their right to determine the safety of the people of South Vietnam, their right to determine their future in free elections.
Then, on their own, the
And the person is the one who is the peace of mind, or is the peace of self.
I ask for the support of the mind to continue to seek that peace of mind, which we have made such great progress with.
And to strengthen, and by your own strength,
world, that our coalition has, we want to go back to our concept that we have to, as we return to the conference table, we go to the conference table, we have to support the American people in achieving this goal.
Those are the points that I want to make.
I'm not with and loving any of the stuff that's going on in this state.
I'm just trying to do what I feel like I want to, and I'm not going to do what I want to do.
Now, if you take that back, and with regard to speech problems and things like that,
There is a feeling, but I would like to use a problem that Chuck posted about, and I don't know whether we want to get it in this one, or whether I'm in for it in my reality or not.
Senator, you know, there's a lot of, and parents too, that both come up with this version, but there needs to be, and the speeches are going to be there from now on, asking the people for their support, telling them why it's important.
We don't need to do it.
We don't need to do it.
It is true.
In other words, maybe we want to close this.
We do want to.
We want to.
We want to say that I need your support.
I do not ask for your support on a basis of what we've done so far.
I need your support to achieve these great goals that I've been trying to outline for you.
On election day, I was really trying to support the Senate.
I think it sort of changed at the end of my time.
But I still have to go closer.
You see, it's just a theory of politics.
And I think it ought to be ended that way.
I'm going to put everyone in six states and I'm going to put them in the last three days.
Now, if you have any thoughts or any questions, raise them in the chat.
Is this one a placement?
Placement?
Oh, yeah.
What is it?
I'm not convinced that we got here.
I'm not sure.
Where?
Oh, I think three.
Now, let me address, I'd like to, uh, give a start to some of the things that, that we've worked on, or that we've worked on in the States, or whatever you want to do, and then move on.
Yeah, I think I would go on there, to the whole port policy, but we did not allow Vietnam, we did not allow Vietnam to secure our, you know, I think they should do it better anyway, because their policies
I think we're doing very well on the land use here.
I'm old.
I'm very unsatisfied with it.
But I think we could do that.
We'll throw that around and change the net so that we can pitch and then come on here.
We're talking about a secret 2300 feet of gold.
You can go up to 500 more words, put 3,000 words.
That's, I can go up there and very quickly, 26 to 27 minutes.
That's what I want.
So, after all, I'm just going to wait a second.
You can work on it by yourself.
I suggest that you...
I'd like to, I'd like to have, so that I can get, have that again after, after 3.30.
How's that?
Um, I don't know why.
3.30, you see, I'll be cool.
I'll come back over here.
We're not going to get here, but I'll see you again.
Now, the only thing that I do...
It could show that at the same time, it is not preferred to be approved.
That's what I'm planning on saying.
At least if you decide that I didn't want to get out, that I was not working for myself, I wouldn't want to do it.
Everything now, everything right, this speech, and to forget the boring foreign policy, if I don't get to it, I can do it on my own.
Do your best to get this, and I don't want the foreign policy to go back to where I put it in this one.
Delivering it tomorrow night, apparently.
That's very important.
I was terribly worried about that.
I mean, it's basically a good wrap-up.
That would be it.
Lay it right out there.
That would be for Sunday paper.
That would be my opinion.
My opinion would depend on Senator Grayson.
Senator Grayson for Sunday paper, right?
Right.
On the board of policymakers.
Right.
Well, we're also doing, uh, what was it, Frank, that was the other one, the one with the plus one right here.
Yeah.
The one with the plus one, the one with the plus one.
Foreign policy is something I have talked about so much.
First, it's our issue.
It's our issue.
That's the problem.
I don't know if there's a hell of a lot more you could say on foreign policy.
What do you think?
Well, I did write about it last night.
Uh, and, uh, we both agree with it.
I'm planning to go with the health plan.
Go with the health plan unless the foreign policy can do this.
Because it'll be what I'll be yakking around about too, out on this tour.
And I'll always talk about foreign policy in Russia and China.
I don't think the foreign policy is going to be one that's sort of left-back.
Though I realize it would be a very good place to go if they don't listen to my restrictions.
Is there any other subject that you would like to talk about?
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
We've got a good story.
Let's go into help.
Okay.
Help will be Friday.
Forget the horoscopes.
And we'll go on.
And we'll go on.
And then we'll talk to you next.
I just don't know.
I just don't feel I've got anything to say in the name of something that's going on in this state.
And, uh, so I've got to understand that, you know, while I've talked about it so much, you know, we've been, you know, we've been doing defense coverage, you know, and we've talked about trying to crush it.
And I'm aware of that.
We've already filmed it, and I feel it.
Well, I do.
There are two, there's the biggest two questions there.
What I had to do was, I had to go to, uh, to do something with, uh, leaving the theater when we were at the court.
Yeah.
Well, that's, that's a hell of an important thing to do.
This is the best stop in my life.
I have a choice.
It's the best stop.
Okay, we've got a, a pretty, a pretty well-placed place.
Fine.
So we're going to have to go back.
Fine.
We've got to wrap this one up so that I can deliver it to them.
I have to read it one more time.
I would do this, but I think the foreign policy is a big one, and it doesn't do it.
I don't think it would be that exciting to run this.
I'd like to show the kids that I'm not there.
I haven't got anything to tell you.
I think some people are launching a foreign policy to tell us we're right.
Fair enough.
I could do a little more time to host around with it.
There's people out in California with us.
Hey, everybody.
Well, don't take messages.
We're not going to call all the presidents.
We should take the secretary or whoever you need.
Fair enough.
I think it's okay.