Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 394 › Conversation 394-008

Nixon & Ziegler on Bipartisan leadership and Executive branch

Friday, January 5, 1973 · 1:04 PM–1:08 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation394-008 on Tape 394StartFriday, January 5, 1973 at 1:04 PMEndFriday, January 5, 1973 at 1:08 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 394-008 ↗

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President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler met briefly to coordinate administrative matters and discuss the President's upcoming schedule. The discussion touched upon the logistics of a bipartisan congressional reception and the potential political implications of managing executive spending authorities. The pair sought to align their messaging regarding the administration's current legislative and social obligations.

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Oh, Ron.

Yes, sir.

I covered the matter.

What's yours?

I covered the matter.

I just wrote a bit of money to the department.

No, it's a social function.

I don't like it.

That's what you want.

Otherwise, you're there.

I don't like it.

I covered it.

on the coordinator of the building that is the writer of the book, and the coordinator of the book, and the editor of the book, and the editor of the book, and the editor of the book, and the editor of the book, and the editor of the book, and the editor of the book, and the editor of the book, and the editor of the book, and the editor of the book,

The basic thing that I've got to do is go to the hospital and visit the patient and see if the body is the same.

I think that's one thing that I think is quite important.

That's the last why that I would consider.

It's not just about the U.S. Capitol.

The U.S. Capitol.

As you said on my end, that we burn into the limitations of the assumption that we are all together.

You see, the way I presented this morning was that, um, the way it was knocked over, it was the right to suspend the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money,

Okay.

NARA Description

On January 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:04 pm to 1:08 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 394-008 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 394-8

Date: January 5, 1973
Time: 1:04 pm - 1:08 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

       The President’s schedule
            -Freshmen Congressman bipartisan leadership reception, January 5, 1973
                  -Unknown person
                         -The President’s conversation with Stephen B. Bull
                                              -16-

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                                Conversation No. 394-8 (cont’d)

              -Press pool
                    -Robert F. Clark
                    -Frank Van Der Linden
                    -Linda J. Heffner of Philadelphia Bulletin
                    -Jerald F. (“Jerry”) terHorst
                    -Allan Palmer of Oklahoman
                    -Ann Schmidt of Denver Post
                    -Edgar Allan Poe of New Orleans Time Picayune
                    -Fay Wells
                    -Des Moines Register
                          -Don Kaul
                    -Louise Hutchinson
                          -Chicago Tribune

       Press relations
             -Ziegler’s press conference
                    -Vietnam negotiations
                          -The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
                          -The President’s bipartisan leadership meeting
                               -Congressional relations
                                     -US withdrawal
                                            -William E. Timmons
                                            -Prisoners of War [POWs]
                                            -Continuation of war
                                            -Compared to cease-fire
                                                  -Cambodia, Laos
                                                  -End of war
                                                  -Responsibility

Ziegler left at 1:08 pm.

Also recorded on January 5, 1973

035-094 12:36 PM · 12 sec — the White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at 12:36 pm.
035-095 12:37 PM · 50 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 12:37 pm to 12:38 pm.
035-096 12:38 PM · 55 sec — Charles W. Colson, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and William E. Timmons talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:38 pm and 1:02 pm.
394-009 1:08 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building on an unknown date, sometime between 1:08 pm on January 5, 1973 and 2:56 pm on January 8, 1973.
394-010 1:08 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building on an unknown date, sometime between 1:08 pm on January 5, 1973 and 2:56 pm on January 8, 1973.
394-011 1:08 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building on an unknown date, sometime between 1:08 pm on January 5, 1973 and 2:56 pm on January 8, 1973.
394-012 1:08 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building on an unknown date, sometime between 1:08 pm on January 5, 1973 and 2:56 pm on January 8, 1973.
394-013 1:08 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building on an unknown date, sometime between 1:08 pm on January 5, 1973 and 2:56 pm on January 8, 1973.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 394-008, January 5, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/394-008 (accessed October 11, 2026).