Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 409 › Conversation 409-010

Nixon & Bull on Rex W. Scouten and White House staff

Tuesday, February 6, 1973 · 1:55 PM–1:56 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation409-010 on Tape 409StartTuesday, February 6, 1973 at 1:55 PMEndTuesday, February 6, 1973 at 1:56 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 409-010 ↗

President Nixon met with aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate logistical arrangements for his daily schedule and upcoming meetings. The discussion centered on adjusting the President’s itinerary following the heart attack suffered by Rex W. Scouten. They finalized the timing and location for briefings involving Henry Kissinger and potentially Charles Colson.

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He is an experienced party member.
He was just one of the ones who said, what do they have right here?
And this was last night.
This was the second part of that.
This was the day that I just spoke.
This was the first position.
I guess because I'm not sure what we're going to focus on.
That's not a big deal.
That's not a big issue.
That's not a big issue.
That's not a big issue.
That's not a big issue.
That's not a big issue.
That's not a big issue.
That's not a big issue.
No.
All right, thank you.
Good.
You want to stay over here under the rest of your meetings.
There's, there's, you know, all right.
There's five o'clock as well.
Just here, on the side of the hall.
On the side of the hall.

On February 6, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:55 pm to 1:56 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 409-010 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 409-10

Date: February 6, 1973
Time: 1:55 pm - 1:56 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President's schedule
              -Arrangements
              -Rex W. Scouten
                      -Heart attack
              -President's meetings
                      -Henry A. Kissinger
                      -Charles W. Colson [?]

Bull left at 1:57 pm.
  • 043-031 1:54 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:54 pm and 2:47 pm.
  • 409-008 1:54 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 1:54 pm.
  • 409-009 1:54 PM · 45 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:54 pm to 1:55 pm.
  • 409-011 1:57 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:57 pm and 2:47 pm.
  • 409-012 1:57 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:57 pm and 2:47 pm.
  • 409-013 1:57 PM · 27 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:57 pm and 2:47 pm.
  • 043-032 2:47 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 2:47 pm to 2:50 pm.
  • 409-014 2:47 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:47 pm and 2:57 pm.

Conversation 409-010, February 6, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/409-010 (accessed October 13, 2026).