Nixon, Moorer & White House photographer on Prisoners of War (POWs)

Hi there.
How are you?
Glad to see you.
Your boys are doing a great job, aren't they?
Oh, yes, they are.
I wanted to read you something.
It was related to the boys.
I told you this morning that I kind of was coming over here.
I didn't tell you this.
He says, I said, you've been to the interviews of the people that have been coming out after the interrogation.
He said there's a very strong pride in America and in presentation.
He said the bombing was horrific and a great morale build to us.
We felt that the next time there was a 26th bombing, that was the day after Christmas.
After that, he had to go up and hand over the jails.
I said, he said, the reason I made that decision, I had a friend that was a Japanese citizen.
And, uh, right at the end of the Japanese war, in Okaigo, the Japanese, uh, made the prisoners, they came place with the Japanese without the courtyard, and they, they made the prisoners come in and sit in their nests.
And even if this is the fact that they wouldn't be still, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,
So at the end of the bombing was going on.
Oh, and they said it was the greatest in the world, build a wall.
And then we had our team partners and everyone saying we were bombing the prison, of course, in North Wisconsin.
And these boys were just delighted.
And they said that they had the upper hand on all the deals.
And it made them realize that in general terms, we would have beat the North.
We could beat the military.
And the reaction was so...
Contrary to what everybody was saying, we make good reps. Yeah.
I know the, uh, staff person.
They're pretty great.
Yeah.
I think the goals came out of that.
Yeah, we did.
We did.
Uh, and the school.
All of them were very, very good.
Uh, yeah.
They all, they made it over the weekend, but what they said was so effective.
After this one guy was killed, and they signed, God bless America, this is Christmas.
That is something you can expect to actually come across.
And the fact that all of them had that, you know, must have had an enormous effect on our, our critics around the country.
Because they, you know, they all said we shouldn't have gone on.
They wouldn't do any good with all the rest.
I can see the love they're bringing.
Yeah.
I can tell you this, but I think they have a lot of other things to do.
I don't know.
Yeah.
But I didn't want to go up here and make that sound, I'm sorry.
I wouldn't get all of that if I stayed with you.
But would you keep me in this and all of the low T's and all of that?
Oh, yes, because you can't say it like that.
But after, I was trying to suggest that after they go get that, I level that out.
Well, no, let all of it go, sir, because it's a good thing.
Because it's also a justify for them to go to these fields.
Right.
I don't know.
Well, I don't know what the hell with that.
I mean, how does that make sense?
I don't know what their interests require.
Absolutely.
And if our prisoners are by another help, they help.
Right?
Don't create that softness.
You know, they had a nail one night.
What was it?
Two asses.
That's what we try to do.
The only regret I have is, as I asked you earlier, of course you didn't name them, but I bet you know them.
First, it did not hit the bottom line.
Second, it didn't hit the bottom line.
They all really kept delaying, delaying, delaying.
They were just letting it whack me.
I couldn't let it hit the bottom line.
But what in the hell is she for?
Except that they don't like her so much.
Yes, I lost the second one, I think.
But the point is that there's a lot of work to be done with that and the rest.
But they accomplished their mission.
They can't accomplish the mission without the ships, correct?
No.
And that was...
I thought it was a very professional operation, and if you did not have the courage to do that, the president would still be fooling around in front of you.
I think that, of course, can also have a great social impact on us.
Of course, the thing is, all of us,
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes, and the Portuguese, and the Greeks, and the Turks.
The Greeks, the Turks, the Portuguese, the Spanish, the Texans.
Both, of course.
But it was the right thing to do.
How about Latin America?
Well, the Brazilians did not have much.
Yes, I don't think we had much Latin America.
It was mostly social.
Social, you're right.
That's true.
But would they just get a chance to know?
I had met a lot of people I've met now that have completely not accepted this.
In Australia?
Yes, yes, I think so.
Boy, I think they, I bet you right now that in Australia, there's a crowd of white American people who aren't embarrassed to tell them about this whole thing.
I mean, they're children.
Oh, they're very, very embarrassed to tell them about this.
So that's no problem.
How about in the United States?
Are they a little embarrassed?
Yes, very.
How are your relations with that?
Excellent.
It's very important for you to address all our military missions.
In regards to what you said, people with disabilities, that's kind of a great example of what you said.
You said the Defense Ministry, the National Guard, the military, the military, the military, the military, the military, they're really sensitive.
Yes.
Well, my officer in Canada was the one that convinced the Canadians to go ahead and just wait in ICPS.
They had a conference to stay up there.
They were coming up on it.
They were trying to make this decision, really.
They were being conditional about it.
But he had a second-in-command called Boyd back in the United States Marines.
But the Canadians don't worry about it.
I think so.
I think so.
I think so.
I think so.
I think so.
But one thing in order to resist, you know, we, uh, we're, uh, we're, uh, we're, uh, we're, uh, we're, uh, we're, uh, we're, uh,
But I, I, I just feel like I have to do this.
Well, I'm going to eat that.
I'm going to eat that.
And they said to me, well, it might change soon.
I said, well, I'm not sure.
What did I think about it?
We're in honor of the two of us brothers.
The two that you mentioned.
The two of us brothers.
The two of us go in advance and sit there.
They've always talked like that.
He is.
I don't know how I can do the same thing.
But I have that thing with us.
I'm glad I'm well there.
And we've had that.
Well, getting back to the state of the state,
You're not safe about this, but we'll get out, of course.
You may have noticed the picture of the board meeting with White House.
That's right, too.
Sorry.
Yes, and you sent a cloud, yeah.
I don't know what I did, actually.
I don't know what I did.
What I had done was work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work.
that, uh, they're gonna have, uh, they'll, uh, they'll, uh, they'll, uh, they'll, uh, they'll, uh, they'll, uh, they'll, uh, they'll, uh,
Some of that could change the military career.
No, it isn't.
I know it's research.
Yes, it is.
You must be quite familiar.
Yes, I know.
We met recently.
Years ago.
I was in command of the command when he was cancer.
And then to maintain contact with his wife and seven children.
And that was my hospital.
And I tend to play the calling, and I'm yelling at the people, and it's pretty rude.
So I got a tremendous amount of fighting on that.
I just wanted to let you know that I called to say thank you to all of you.
I appreciate it.
And I'd love to see you all again.
I'm looking forward to seeing you all again.
I'll be on all the old street.
I'm going to see you in the sport field.
You know, it'll be really good.
The number of the wives, the mothers, the...
The left list was thought to be small.
Very small, yes, small.
I mean, I'm sure there's a whole lot of characters.
But these guys let go of the rock.
Did they?
And why were they there later?
Well, necessarily, it was something they were told when they got out.
No, they, they, they knew, they met it.
They all knew that it was dangerous, too.
How did they know that?
Can they tell?
Yes, sir.
They, uh, rather than let go of it, what did they do?
They put a hundred and sixteen...
All these allegations about him.
uh, carpet farming and city farming and so on.
He told me about how to keep people safe.
And then he told me about, uh, the one thing that to, uh, a man who didn't own a race.
And I said, yes, it was a 1500.
He wanted a deck coach.
And I said, Mike, we had a World War II.
Uh, this is outstanding.
I thought it was World War II.
We had many more.
Shedding light, uh, abuse, though.
And I could just talk about it for one minute, talk about it for one minute, and then... Well, the other thing this does is make sure they're aware of it, is that it doesn't have some courage to say, uh, this country, you know, all this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this.
They could have come home, and we had not.
And we had not got the lease in sight.
These guys wouldn't have come home with their heads tied, would they?
Not if we had traded.
If we had traded, basically, their safety for a bug out.
Well, if they are like, keep this right in the mess, what do they say?
That's the 26th.
We had to up a hand over the DRB, and we feel that we beat the North Vietnamese in military terms.
See, this is one of the reasons we're coming off the election.
That's what I'm breaking off.
That's what I'm breaking off.
This is a general attitude of those who were in the first room.
They would have never had that attitude.
They never would have come home to me.
They came in, they had steel arms, and oil was there, all their new uniforms on.
Looking smart, they said that they were delighted that we provided the uniforms with the OSI chain and military bearings on it.
Now, all this means something to people.
You know, rediculous, but it means a lot to the military managers around the bearing for pride.
And so that's just one point you made.
And we just loved how they were telling us that.
I was going to ask you.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
That page was passed on to them.
And they were paid, but they were in prison.
I guess they got a $5 a day bonus.
And I can't wait for this.
It's very much for the good.
And I think that Darlene will be certainly available to come to our recommendations.
And what we're going to do is we're going to ask you about whether there are other kinds of things.
That's my recommendation.
Oh, yes, sir.
We're going to handle them on a case-by-case basis.
We're going to give them legal advice.
We're going to give them options in respect to their careers.
We're going to put them back to school.
We're going to work on it.
It's a choice of meaning.
I think there's nothing we can do.
What about the... Is it...
Well, I think that they all, they all, of course, will have the same choice.
I'm just wondering if
I thought that I could get presidential citations.
I hope.
Why don't you say that?
Why don't you go over there with your clerk and say, Mr. Buck, what would be the proper way to make an individual citation?
Yes.
Oh, wait a minute.
So they're trying to rip us now?
We're just trying to rip them up.
Well, presidential citations are good.
Yes.
If you would think about that, and of course we're still working on our shop, I'd like to get your thoughts on it, because I think it's a very good question.
I think it's a very good question.
I think it's a very good question.
I kind of take a rip at them, though.
I'm like, oh, there's a star green here.
Uh, that's not necessarily, you know, giving them a medal would be exactly enough.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right, exactly.
That's what you should think of.
I would like that.
You know, it's sort of, you know, a medal would be, you know, a citation, a presidential citation, like a written citation.
Yes, yes.
Uh, I'll think about this.
And it's a thing.
But don't get this.
on the money side, I wouldn't want to have a jackass congressman on the table.
I'd say $10,000 a day, $5,000 a day.
Talk that over to people and see what they think.
Whether we ever get a $5,000 a day, how far back does that go?
I think we're back to where we're at.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'll bring that to you.
You know, the $5 for a word should not be $10.
Right.
You might think that, but I don't know.
But again, we've got to weigh it against the .
I'll just imagine this is a cold contract.
In fact, I'd like to see what your people's public response, what they would recommend.
They don't, you know, I don't know.
See, one of the things I think this does is terribly important, and one of the things is that we've been trying to finish this war correctly.
Among many other things, we had to, we had to guarantee our position to self-determination, respecting our, you know, our enemies and the confidence of our clients and our trust.
Are they?
Yes, sir.
Airplanes are going to be out more and more until it's done a lot of the old country.
You read the paper, you know, they've been ready to pick it up, to separate it, you know, and I don't say, you know, to protect it.
You know, Charlie, I mean, you say they're heroes, you know, in that sense.
I don't say there's damage, any poison that's gotten off that plane has damaged it.
It makes it strange to look back and say, you know, the blood of the country, the blood of the city.
Let me ask you a question.
I'm thinking of what I might do, what I should do.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I want the chiefs, I would say, of course, that's our, that's the planning council.
Very much.
And then I think that I'd like to know the purpose of it.
You see it's a, I wonder, I suppose they don't expect it to be quite similar.
I don't know if it's a good model.
I don't know how much the situation is going to be.
I don't know if it's going to be.
No, I'm not sure.
But I think, I think it will be a good model.
That would be fine, yeah.
They, uh, wanted to have, uh, have a little bit of that, but, uh, they had the deadline.
Oh, yeah, sure.
Right.
And then he's gonna do it.
He's very good at it.
That's it.
I'll do it.
I'll just, you know, trust my admiration for the doctor.
You know, it's just, you know, you know, it's just, you know, it's just, you know, it's just, you know, it's just, you know, it's just, you know,
I'll call on you to give me an idea of what you recommend.
I know this is pretty quick, but I know what I've been looking for in the Congress since then.
Everybody's going to want to get this back.
And I think this is something we all need to be afraid of.
We're going to want to get this back.
You've got to pay mind.
I guess the great million now is basically small interest issues.
That is your concern now.
It's going to be a big deal.
We've got to build up respect and appreciation for that.
I don't think I can really hear, but I can go ahead and check it out.
Because also there's a lot of other people
Another thing I wanted to tell you is that we're going to follow a different pattern here.
And we're going to try and support you.
And of course, we're going to set you up with a good location.
And we're going to send you to a great, great job.
We've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got,
I feel that there's not going to be any problem in the development of the economy.
I'm already talking a little bit about this, but there is a direct law in the United States, right?
I guess there is.
You know, we haven't had that in a little while, right?
I've been trying to get that line, but we're not sure what that's going to be true.
Yes, sir.
You know, frequently I'm quite frightened.
I always think, right from the start, you've never seen it.
And, well, for example, when we were talking about it, you know, in the summer period, I think it was here in the morning, I think it was there in the second fall of the second edition, and so forth.
We never got it.
We never opened it.
Right after May, we should have kept up the, the weather was good.
I recommended that.
I wanted to already hit two, so I know what to do.
Well, the business just was hard, but then, I got a question.
I mean, it's been all night, you know, for a while.
And I was waiting on this, this, uh, this day.
Well, five, I was bailing out a little while, so I, well, it was ten that went down, and, well, we, we sold, we blew it.
741 for days.
And, uh, I had made it 14.8.
We, uh, at the time we stopped the president, we, we, uh, could have called it now.
They had no laws until last year.
They went out of business with my name.
I'm thinking one thing.
Well, they stopped bombing us on the 29th.
They said that, uh, due to the strikes in the American people, the bombings didn't stop.
They said, you want to watch that guy make it?
They said, no, they said,
Some of the American people in Miami said, you know, one thing is that you never know where you're going to go.
Another thing I want you to do is this.
I just, uh, I, I can't, uh, I, uh, I can't, I can't, I can't.
And uh, like I said, all of here, we've gotten to have uh, uh, we've gotten to have uh, a marked war end with our military mission abroad.
And I went over one of my pet peeves that, even in our administration, and I held a church event all over there,
We have a lot of friends and everybody else is so on and so on in the current.
That is just fraud.
That's terrible.
And I don't want that ever to be stopped here because nobody has made me tilt the roof for the sake of our community.
But you know my name.
I'm interested.
You know how I am.
Yes, sir.
All right.
We're ready.
Let's hit the boat.
Can we get back to this?
Yes, sir.
Let's get back to the boat.
I am now.
You know, that's all I got about that.
You see, Jack Lasker, Jack Gertrude Roy, and the rest of them, you know, they've got a lot of joy.
I guess, you know, they've got a lot of, they've got a lot of passion.
Without the time, you can't be in the nation's military, in the nation's communist world.
Yes, and it's a great, good place, good for what you might do.
Yes, sir.
It's so hard, but it's our friend there.
Sure.
And all of his people, and your people are like,
uh, I expect that, uh, the rest of them are very important, and they're, they're, they're, um, developing a line of contact to pick the social signs.
So, um, I'm going to ask you to wait.
Yes, sir.
You know, I, when I was, you know, I went down to Rio,
Now they've got a barn now.
They'd rather have art.
They'd rather have art.
The other thing which I, uh, I, uh, discussed with him was that, uh, he understands it because he worked with me on this and stuff.
I want you to, I want the service to
not at the highest level, not the flag level or the star level, but what I would call the colonel or the captain, I don't know if that's your name, but I think you need to, I'm going to try
I want to get I'd like to get I'd like to get the the services the military to get there
to get their attention, not only on the Army or the Navy or the Air Force, because they just got attention on the force levels and the rest, but frankly, on the whole, on the whole security.
Like this stuff in the arms, you know, like basically, I don't know if you're familiar with the German side of things, which is very important.
And I think, I think, I think
I mean, I'd like them to sit down.
I'm not saying they're not going to be in the Air Force.
I'm writing a letter to Major Cameron about those guys.
And whether it's the policy towards what to do in Europe, whether it's the situation, of course, with what the Chinese are doing in the world.
I don't have anything specific in mind, but I want to be sure that, you know, the most creative, the right people in the services are represented in here as well as the services, just that they come out of a formal meeting.
So, I mean, I want to tell you what, I have a think tank over there actually.
I'm not going to sit there.
This will set it.
This will set it.
I think there are many news that are there.
because they eat some cockeyed meat.
I think sanctuary is in a very small way, a very small way, but they, you know, have been out there in the Mediterranean for a long time.
They've been on the sticks for some, you know, what's the name of it?
That's a really, really, really good thing.
They have to sit with a lot of their children on the streets all the time, all the time.
They're not just going to go back to this camp and tell you
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that it just may mean that that field is far more important than just to control the road and so forth.
That may be some of the more sophisticated things that we can provide.
No, no, we are actually doing that for Korea.
Are you going to have anti-evil infiltration posts?
That's what I have in mind.
I think that in terms of the next talk, what we've done, I want you to put yourself in the position of the smaller companies.
They're deemed to have conventional force.
They're deemed to be able to go to war, fight to go to war, and so forth.
Whether it's making it on the air or making it in different countries.
You see, when I see these little companies coming in, for our most sophisticated, expensive maritime, I wonder about that.
I'm glad to see that you are going forward in a tactical way in terms of enabling the government in terms of the critical approach to that.
We need a much less expensive, not for us, but something that we can get in with these other countries.
I'd like to see this as a long-term plan, beyond conventional.
And let me tell you what I've done on this trip.
I've done a deal with the operations department.
We've already started work in Syria.
I'm going to develop these cells.
One of them is working on a European flight.
What would our situation be like after the MPFR?
Where do we go in the future in Europe?
I've got another group working on the same thing with the state too.
And so I propose that we do this, and we will not stand these studies in a debatable sense.
And I will pass them over here.
Everyone recognize that they haven't been stand.
Nobody's going to say, well, in the Pentagon, guess wrong.
What the hell was that?
I don't care if anybody gets it right.
You know, it could make very, very dangerous.
Let me tell you about one of the instructors and how we're going to do it.
Well, they're going to do it.
They're going to make it all the same.
I mean, I had no choice but to talk much further than that, because I was amazed at how much of an influence and reflection I had on those films.
Once I decided to carry it out, well, I keep going forward, you know, but I think it was a very critical way of handling this thing.
I was, you know, I never used to do that, but I should now.
I said, what did you do?
He said, I should go and tell them that we had gone to Russia.
He said, let's go to Russia.
I said, I should go and tell them.
He said, I should go and tell them.
He announced that I was canceling the Russian summit because he didn't want to.
He must have been in a position of having been canceled.
Either way, we had a bomb in mind.
I know we had a bomb in mind.
The question of canceling that is my question to him.
And he said, and he was certain that they could cancel the conversation after the meeting.
So I came out, and I did, and I went outside.
I said, well, hey, I'm not speaking at all.
And I'll take a little more check.
And I said, well, I don't know.
So I started to cross the street.
Well, frankly, I didn't.
I drank, okay, very well.
Going all the way.
They didn't cancel us out.
Right?
Now there's another thing, there's all this interesting stuff going on.
But how do we control all of these things?
Uh, you're going to have to, you're going to have to, that's what you're going to have to do.
How do you support it?
How do you break it down?
How do you show off?
I don't know this in any way, but I wanted to talk to you about that.
And then finally, I saw that they did work on something.
They had me send a wire to people that were sitting in the meeting, and they said that they were recognizing the president.
And I said, Scott, I'll send it to the president.
Go on home.
I said, announce that they have strong orders.
And I was sitting there and people were explaining.
And people were trying to resolve the bomb, but largely not.
And, his point was, I had morality in my head for people.
It was just like me.
But this I didn't mean on the outside.
I just, why are you doing that?
It's just like me.
I hate it.
And I said, I didn't kill the bomb, but I'm not going to go on television.
I said, you're going to come back.
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And we will stop it as soon as they agree to negotiate.
Then, they're an impossible place to negotiate.
They never know it.
I said, yeah, no, that's the best thing to do.
Just do it.
That's the way to get out and see what happens.
By just going ahead and doing it.
First, you call it like an artist.
We didn't stir up the jackals here.
The jackals here didn't catch up with us until after we quit, frankly.
And, as a result, an army of the neighbors were able to come back to the animals.
By not going on and putting it to them, they were able to come back and claim that, well, where have we been?
I didn't find them.
How did they get back to some of them?
And also, by not, by never trying to say that they had come back as a result of the bombing, it allows us to say,
You see, what I'm getting at is that, in this whole area, we may need to have some other construction.
And I think that there's a collection of panels that are going to be very successful, like the one in the hospital, and the one in the hospital, and the one in the hospital, and the one in the hospital, and the one in the hospital.
We may not have it.
I think we're going to have to judge it.
not in a sort of a sterile, uh, antiseptic, uh, way in which, uh, in which each representative presents it to the NSC, you know, in which, you know, you have to have that, too, that finally has to get down to their crux, to what was sort of the standard, and so forth, and that's all.
But in a way that I, kind of like, is kind of, that might weigh out, that I might decide, well, I don't know, just sort of being this,
So, you know, you could actually encourage that I appreciate you talking to Al about it.
Because Al had seen me over there and had been in the NSC, NSC system.
And was exactly looking at this guy and saying, you know, what's the problem?
And he won't undercut me.
And basically, Al's a planner.
And he has ideas as to how this could be set up.
He shouldn't do it, because he's been in it so long.
But I'd like to encourage younger officers to write about that in the Navy.
I say younger officers, captains.
There are guys in that age who are just about how old a new captain is.
Alright, they're just about ready.
40 to 45.
Those are the guys that have experience, etc.
And also a lot of guys are chockers.
Got it.
Nonetheless, the second one we have in mind is keeping it as internal as possible.
Captain's level.
Good.
And I'm going to be able to make some men for a quick and healthy operation.
Besides, I have the planning side down.
Good.
There's some guys that are great operators.
I have a question.
You've got political ties to the coalition and the politics.
I would give them some of those guys when I went to their next race, and I would give them some of those guys.
These guys, they know what their role is.
They know how to deal with the population.
They know what to do.
Those boys are in the government.
They're in the government.
So, uh, you can just baton surround those boys with an instrument for chief speed and truck.
And then I want to hear the, I don't know, the Air Force next door.
They need to hold on to those boys.
We're not just sitting here expecting that.
Why not just say, yes, sir, after I make a decision?
And so we're not asking that the kid get any paint if they're wrong.
That's one of the troubles with government is a lot of people are still gutted and scared to say anything.
The boss doesn't want to hear it.
I don't mean that they should put it on the pavement.
That's an unforgivable.
Nobody, nobody has advice on why you should never put it on public.
But in general, you should put out a good job.
We got to hear it.
Great.
I think that's one of the wings of the charge is people try to cover them.
Get on both sides of the question.
I see that all the time around this town.
Well, I don't know how it'll work out.
When Henry gets back, I'll try to get to him.
He's very impatient, of course.
He's very inexperienced.
On the other hand, he won't see the beat for this.
I see it.
He recognizes it.
That's what I want.
What do you think of it?
He is a target, a carrier gun.
He said, he's like, they're just a lot of mines in the military.
They're blocking the entrance.
I said, I'm not guessing on what kind of a carrier we can see.
Yes, sir, I understand that.
And he gave me a supreme offer.
He said, there's not a chance in the world they don't have the same people in the election.
I said, I'm not going to do that.
I said, I don't care about that.
Well, I think one thing that's important is that we're going to be able to do it in a different way.
We're going to be able to do it in a different way.
We're going to be able to do it.
You know, there's a bunch of takes into account the fact that Vietnam's over.
And so we're going to fight that battle and fight it.
I recognize that 60% of the budget goes to personnel.
I'm aware of that too.
But it is a terribly hard fight at this time.
Well, I've been working on it.
I'm just waiting on that.
I have a question about what you're talking about, services.
No, sir, I ain't talking about.
And, uh, so that's the fact that we were involved.
And now that's been inevitable, we couldn't turn in because we had these interests.
And then, uh, you know, you said that, uh, we didn't have, uh, uh, we didn't have, uh, uh, uh, connotations because we had interests.
Yeah, that's right.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, we had connotations because we had that point and that track.
And I, uh, couldn't take on the energy prices, sure.
how we might have a conflict and why we had to be strong and then do a success in negotiations and then make possible because we weren't strong and this is why we had to stay strong and then I went through what's happened to the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head
Showing what percentage of the building has products with federal legislation on it.
And I had to work to get some plans to make this year's building a $8,000,000 building.
And then I got all kinds of questions.
And I don't know that person.
And then I had to talk on TV to a press conference.
And they asked me, what has the board done to build that building?
I said, well, I said that.
And I didn't think these young men could have been enough.
But, uh, I was a young government farmer.
Uh, in the jungle, what you couldn't tell was the rampant folks.
They were very good.
Goodness, they were loving it.
It was intense and violent.
And despite all this, the day after day and night after night that they've been told that what they're doing tomorrow is their country's law,
And so I just stuck my head in there.
And I said, I was probably impressed.
And I said, you people, you know, have my help.
And I said, we've done this, I have you.
And I said, you don't have a solution.
You never have a solution.
You've got a problem.
And then they all got up and said, well, it wasn't me.
They said, it's not me.
And I said, well, it's not you.
And I said, well, it's not me.
And, uh, quick, good, you know, there's a car coming to me and saying, oh, yeah, pass them up.
And then I scream.
That's before they put them all together.
I'm trying to go to the university.
I'm going to have to do this.
All I can do is bring them down to the university.
Good.
Get your speakers out.
And I was trying to get them out.
And I had a big speaker version for the rest of them.
And I let them speak proudly of our, our, our, you know, all of our men.
You see, this whole amnesty department, well, we're totally wrong.
I mean, look, are you kidding me?
Totally.
Because I, what did you say?
Oh, I said I'm against it.
Probably opposed to it.
I said, oh, you can't delay your life.
You know, another way you could say, if they say, well, the president should provide amnesty and he'll do it.
Well, now, what if I were to provide amnesty to John Kerry, to Jack Henson, to the left?
It is the drive of the whole patriotic America.
Sir, right at the ball, wouldn't it?
Yes, sir.
It's worth them all.
It's worth them.
We have another thing.
You know, let's have the best of them.
Tell the young people, say, well, that's all.
Get off.
I'll get away.
So, sir, I, you know, I don't want to do it.
Well, I don't want to do it.
You can say, well, we have competition, of course.
You know, a person must pay for, and he must display the law of mind.
There's a prevailing precaution.
they could have taken that, you know, they could all get high cash, leave it, serve whatever the court says, or some other, there is that, but having decided not to vote, having decided to serve, and he didn't serve, or evade the draft, that's a big price.
They're all up there throwing out rent, and losing an individual, an individual who decides to disobey the law, and he has a right, he has a right to disobey the law, but then, he has to take the consequences.
And I think that, uh, just to set a precedent for the damage, I mean, he is, he is, he is, and I think he'll take it.
Well, could you tell us?
Yes, sir, I'll, I'll, I'll have it all back in the garage.
Convince me to do it.
It doesn't seem like that.
Well, in fact, it's not, it's not, it's not.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Thank you.
.
.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Oh, that was tough.
Thank you.
No, we shouldn't have popped it already, right?
Yeah.
Hold on.
Yeah, hold on.
Okay, great.

Nixon, Moorer & White House photographer on Prisoners of War (POWs)

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