Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 416 › Conversation 416-009

Nixon & Bull on Ronald L. Ziegler and Paul Findley

Thursday, March 1, 1973 · 4:00 PM–4:01 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation416-009 on Tape 416StartThursday, March 1, 1973 at 4:00 PMEndThursday, March 1, 1973 at 4:01 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 416-009 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met briefly to review and finalize adjustments to the President's upcoming schedule. The discussion focused on coordinating meetings with Ronald L. Ziegler and Congressman Paul Findley, as well as managing administrative updates regarding sub-Cabinet officials and diplomatic credentials. The participants prioritized organizing these time-sensitive arrangements to ensure the day's agenda concluded by five o'clock.

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I apologize for the interruption.
In regards to the discussion points, they were interesting.
I think the government is going to find the money, and then the sub-catholic government is going to put forward the issues.
I think the government is going to find the money, and then the sub-catholic government is going
That's all before 11.
That's all before 11.
We're coming in.
That's why we split that in four.
That's five.
That's five.
That's five.
I want to finish by five.
Yeah, it'll be over.
Good-bye.

On March 1, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:00 pm to 4:01 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 416-009 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 416-9

Date: March 1, 1973
Time: 4:00 pm-4:01 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President's schedule
             -Ronald L. Ziegler
             -Changes
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                          Conversation No. 416-9 (cont’d)

                    -Sub-Cabinet officials
              -Diplomatic credentials
                    -Changes
              -Paul Findley
                    -Meeting
                          -Arrangements
                          -Length
                    -Diplomatic credentials

Bull left at 4:01 pm.
  • 866-023 3:30 PM · 5 min — Unknown person(s) and United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 3:30 pm on March 1, 1973 and 11:00 am on March 2, 1973.
  • 416-007 3:35 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:35 pm to 3:36 pm.
  • 416-008 3:36 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:36 pm and 4:00 pm.
  • 037-019 4:01 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:01 pm and 4:42 pm.
  • 416-010 4:01 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:01 pm and 4:42 pm.
  • 037-020 4:42 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Peter J. Brennan talked on the telephone from 4:42 pm to 4:44 pm.
  • 416-011 4:42 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Peter J. Brennan met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:42 pm to 4:44 pm.
  • 037-021 4:44 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:44 pm and 4:46 pm.

Conversation 416-009, March 1, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/416-009 (accessed October 1, 2026).