Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 416 › Conversation 416-034
Nixon & Ziegler on Watergate and Ervin Committee
Thursday, March 15, 1973 · 9:22 AM–10:05 AM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 25 min
AI Summary
President Nixon met with Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler to strategize on managing the escalating Watergate scandal and the impending Ervin Committee hearings. They discussed how to respond to press inquiries regarding staff involvement, specifically focusing on the roles of John Dean, Dwight Chapin, and H.R. Haldeman. Nixon emphasized relying on the principle of separation of powers to justify limiting White House staff testimony, while Ziegler planned his public messaging to defend the administration's cooperation while maintaining confidence in staff members implicated in the investigation.
- Watergate
- Ervin Committee
- Executive Privilege
- Separation of Powers
- White House Staff
- John Dean
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NARA Description
On March 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:22 am to 10:05 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 416-034 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 416-34
Date: March 15, 1973
Time: 9:22 pm-10:05 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.
Watergate
-Problems
-Donald H. Segretti
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Investigation
-John W. Dean, III
-Questions about Ervin Committee appearance
-Response
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Constitution
-Separation of powers
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Testimony
-Dean’s letter
-Testimony to committee by staff
-Kissinger
-Ehrlichman
-Dean’s responsibilities
-Dwight L. Chapin
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
-Ziegler’s statement
-President’s confidence in White House staff
-Press questions for President
-Past investigations
-President’s possible answers
-Chapin
-Charges against
-White House statements
-President’s final statement
-Ziegler’s game plan to questions
-Segretti
-Chapin
-Clark R. Mollenhoff
-Further questions
-President’s answers
-Dean
-Dealings with Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
-Ervin Committee
-Dealings with Dean
-Cooperation
-Dean
-FBI information
-Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
-Testimony to committee
-Congressional relations
-White House staff
-Depositions
-Ervin Committee hearings
-Dean
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Testimony
-Subpoena
-Cross examination
-Separation of powers
-Cooperation of White House
-Haldeman testimony
-Richard G. Kleindienst hearings
-Flanigan
-Answers to questions from press
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Conversation No. 416-34 (cont’d)
-Cooperation with committee
-Right to cross-examine White House staff
-Ehrlichman, Kissinger
-Ziegler’s statements to press
-Confidence in Chapin
Trade legislation
Watergate
-CRP
-Testimony
-Dean
-Ehrlichman, Ziegler
-Chapin
-Answers to press
-Washington Post stories
-Grand jury proceedings
-Chapin
-Segretti
-Allegations
-Chapin’s denials
-Herbert W. Kalmbach testimony
-Dean
-Position for Ervin Committee
-Separation of powers
-Statements for press
-Chapin
President's meeting with Kissinger
Ziegler's statements for press
-Legislation for Indians
-Patrick J. Buchanan [?]
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
-Rogers C. B. Morton
Executive privilege
-Statement by Ziegler
-Statement by President
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Conversation No. 416-34 (cont’d)
Press conference
-Handouts
-Preparations
Ziegler left at 10:05 am.Also recorded on March 15, 1973
- 037-115 9:20 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 9:20 am.
- 037-116 9:20 AM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, and John W. Dean, III talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:20 am and 10:05 am.
- 416-033 9:20 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 9:20 am.
- 416-035 10:39 AM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:39 am to 10:55 am.
- 880-001 11:16 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:16 am to 11:19 am.
- 880-002 11:19 AM · 26 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:19 am and 11:22 am.
- 880-025 11:22 AM · 37 sec — unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:22 am and 11:58 am.
- 880-003 11:58 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:58 am to 12:05 pm.
Cite this conversation
Conversation 416-034, March 15, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/416-034 (accessed October 1, 2026).