Conversation 429-021

TapeTape 429StartThursday, April 19, 1973 at 6:00 PMEndThursday, April 19, 1973 at 6:03 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ehrlichman, John D.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building

On April 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:00 pm to 6:03 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 429-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 429-021

Date: April 19, 1973
Time: 6:00 pm - 6:03 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.

[See Conversation No. 038-123]

                                                                             Conversation No. 429-022

Date: April 19, 1973
Time: 8:26 pm - 9:32 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with John J. Wilson and Frank H. Strickler.

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was also prepared Richard Nixon’s
Special White House Counsel for Watergate Matters and submitted to the Committee on the
Judiciary of the House of Representatives. This transcript can be found in Submission of
Recorded Presidential Conversations (SRPC), pages 1208-1256 (1-49). Please refer to the
logging below.]

       President’s Executive Office Building [EOB] office

       Wilson and Strickler’s visit to the Oval Office
             -J. Willard (“Bill”) Marriot, Jr. family
                     -Law firm representation
                     -Alcohol sales
                     -No smoking facilities
             -Tobacco use

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time before 9:32 pm.

       Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 9:32 pm.

       Wilson and Strickler
             -Political affiliation
                     -Support for President
                     -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                     -[John] Calvin Coolidge

       Watergate
             -John N. Mitchell
             -Wilson and Strickler’s meetings
                    -Haldeman
                    -John D. Ehrlichman
                    -District Attorney of Washington, D.C. [?]
             $350,000
                    -Haldeman
                            -Knowledge of the funds

                              -John W. Dean, III
                      -Financial support for Watergate defendants
                              -Committee to Re-Elect President [CRP]
                              -Conspiracy charges
                                     -Abraham Lincoln assassination
                                             -Dr. Samuel Mudd
                                             -John Wilkes Booth
                                             -Pardon of Mudd
                              -Dean’s receipt of funds
               -Haldeman
                      -Indictment
                      -Seymour Glanzer
                      -Judgment of prosecutors
                      -Wilson and Strickler’s possible defense
                      -Frederick C. LaRue
                      -Letter from Haldeman [?]
                      -Fundraising for defendants
               -Wilson and Strickler’s debts
                      -Haldeman
                      -Ehrlichman
                      -President’s opinion of Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                              -Honesty
               -Ehrlichman
                      -Deep six
                      -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.’s safe
                              -Firearms
                              -Bugging or recording equipment
                              -Papers
                              -National Security information
                              -Federal Bureau of Investigations [FBI]

Manolo Sanchez entered the room at an unknown time after 8:26 pm.

       Refreshments

Sanchez left the room at an unknown time before 9:32 pm.

       Watergate
             -Ehrlichman
                    - Federal Bureau of Investigations [FBI]
                            -Seizure of Hunt’s materials
                            -L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
                            -Papers in Dean’s possession
                            -Envelope
                    -Gray’s destruction of materials
                            -Gray’s testimony
                            -Henry E. Petersen
                            -Ehrlichman’s response
             -Peterson’s trustworthiness
                    -Department of Justice
                    -Philadelphia, Pennsylvannia
             -Ehrlichman
                    -Raising funds for Watergate defendants
                    -$350,000
                            -Dean
                            -Herbert W. Kalmbach
                    Wilson and Strickler’s assessment
             -Prosecution
                    - Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                            -Indictments
                            -Conspiracy
                            -Public opinion
                    -Wilson and Strickler’s meeting with Glanzer and Earl J. Silbert
                            -Glanzer
                                    -[First name unknown] Campbell
                            -Silbert
                            -Lawyers for defendants
                            -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                            -Mitchell
                    -Wilson
                            -Conversation with Glanzer
                    -Haldeman and Ehrlichman

                               -Grand Jury
                               -Office interview
                       -Petersen’s assessment
                               -Grand Jury
                       -Silbert
                       -Ehrlichman’s investigation
                               -Silbert’s inquiry
                       -Grand Jury leaks
                               -Jack N. Anderson
                       -Grand Jury schedule
                               -Ervin Committee
                       -Silbert
                               -Wilson’s assessment
                                       -Meeting in John. J. Sirica’s chambers
                       -Glanzer
                               -Wilson and Strickler’s assessment
               -Hunt
                      -Grand Jury testimony
               -Wilson and Strickler’s conclusions
                      -President’s interest
                      -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                      -Leonard Garment
                      -Dean
                              -Testimony
                                      -Role of Glanzer and Silbert
                              -Attitude
                      -Mitchell
                              -Instructions to Dean
               -Peterson’s assessment
                      -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                              -Resignation
               -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                      -Sherman Adams
                              -Resignation
                              -Vicuna coat
               -Haldeman and Ehrlichman

                       -President’s assessment
                               -Role of public opinion
                               -Innocence
                       -Grand Jury
                       -Press reaction
                       -Suspension
                               -Peterson
                       -Resignation
                       -Indictments
                               -Effect of Presidency
                       -Public statement
                               -Ervin Committee
                       -Resignation
                               -Public reaction
                                       -Perception of guilt
                                       -Impact on Presidency
                       -Interviews
                               -Involvement of Wilson and Strickler
                               -Silbert
                               -Petersen
                               -Scheduling of interview
                               -Removal of Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                                       -Public reaction
                               -Indictments
                               -Line of questioning
               -Dean
                      -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                      -Statements
                      -Immunity
                              -Case
                              -Use
                                     -Amendment passed in Congress
                                          -Testimony
                      -[First name unknown] Schaffer
                      -Glanzer
               -Petersen

                      -Grand Jury
                              -Case against industrialist
                      -Mitchell
                      -Prosecution tactics
                              -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                              -Psychology
               -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                      -Conspiracy
                              -Jeb Stuart Magruder
                              -Dean
                              -James W. McCord, Jr.
               -Money for Watergate defendants
                      -Dean
                      -McCord
                      -Allegations
                      -Timing
                      -News coverage
               -Indictments
                      -Petersen prosecutors
                      -Public opinion
               -Lowell P. Weicker,Jr.
               -Dean’s testimony
                      -Ervin Committee
                      -Court proceedings
               Petersen
                      -Indictments
                              -Dean
                              -Mitchell
                              -Democratic affiliation
                              -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                                     -Co-conspiracy
                                      -Suspension by President
                      -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                              -Respectability
                              -Popular opinion
                              -Huston [?]

                               -President’s contacts with Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                       -Easter weekend
                               -Magruder
                               -Hunt
                       -Wilson and Strickler’s meetings
                               -Glanzer
                               -Productiveness
                               -Glanzer former role as Assistant Attorney General
                       -White House staff
                               -Honesty
                               -1972 campaign
                               -Mitchell
                                      -Reasons for Watergate scandal

       Previous meeting between President and Wilson and Strickler
              -Wardman Park
              -1972 election

       President’s view
              -Democratic Party actions
              -Strickler’s daughter
                      -Greetings for President

       President’s schedule

       President’s gratitude to Wilson and Strickler

Wilson and Strickler left the room at 9:32 pm.

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

No.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I just can't have anything to do with one of you, I'm sure.
The day, the day after, we talked to each other.
And what I thought was, is to say, what office are you coming from, John?
Or, if I, if I think, you know, if I'm going to be the one to come.
And, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
That's the point of the thing.
We've got words that manage it, like 24 hours a day.
Right.
That's the spiritual test of that.
Right, just all that.