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Start Date: 18-May-1973 12:49 PM

End Date: 18-May-1973 1:52 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

437-011.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 18, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:49 pm to 1:52 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 437-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 437-11

Date: May 18, 1973
Time: 12:49 pm - 1:52 pm
Location: Old Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

       Watergate
             -Lt. Gen. Vernon A. Walters’s memoranda of conversation [memcons]
             -President’s concerns regarding Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] involvement
                     -President’s orders to Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman
                            -Richard M. Helms
             -John W. Dean III’s follow-up meeting with CIA
             -President’s conversation with L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
             -Motives of the President and Haldeman regarding CIA and Federal Bureau of
              Investigation [FBI] 

                     -Burglars and Mexican bank          

                     -Plumbers        

                     -Possible impeachment         

             -Need for full disclosure 

             -Ehrlichman          

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    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                       Tape Subject Log
                       (rev. August-2011)

                                              Conversation No. 437-11 (cont’d)

-Conversations with J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. and Ronald L. Ziegler
       -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
       -CIA
               -Need for full White House disclosure
               -Ervin Committee
               -Possible testimony by Ehrlichman and Haldeman
                       -Forum for disclosure
                               -Grand jury and Senate committee
                       -John L. McClellan
-President’s order to Haldeman regarding CIA
       -Walters and Helms
               -Contact with FBI
-Walters’s Gray memcons
       -Haldeman’s statements           

               -Arrests         

               -Mexico         

       -CIA involvement             

               -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.         

-White House concern regarding expansion of investigation
       -Plumbers
       -Dean and Earl Silbert
       -Richard G. Kleindienst
       -Bay of Pigs
               -Haldeman’s conversation with Walters and Helms
                       -Helms’s reaction
-Bay of Pigs investigation by Ehrlichman
       -CIA
       -Missing memo
-Haldeman’s and Ehrlichman’s meeting with Walters and Helms
       -Topics of conversation
-FBI’s concern regarding CIA involvement
-Walters’s memcons
       -Possible release          

       -Possible statements by Haldeman and Ehrlichman 

       -Timing of preparation         

       -Conversation with Dean, June 26 

       -Conversation with Ehrlichman concerning Dean 

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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                  Tape Subject Log 

                                  (rev. August-2011)

                                                         Conversation No. 437-11 (cont’d)

            -Possible White House release of material
                    -Huston plan
                    -Tom C. Huston
                    -Henry A. Kissinger wiretaps
                    -Plumbers
                    -Huston plan
            -Huston plan
                    -Haldeman’s knowledge
                    -William Sullivan
                    -J. Edgar Hoover’s objection
                    -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
                    -Plumbers
            -Information for Buzhardt
            -Charles W. Colson’s line
            -James W. McCord’s testimony, May 18
                    -John N. Mitchell        

            -Buzhardt’s concern         

                    -Promise of clemency to McCord
            -President’s conversations with Ehrlichman concerning clemency
            -President’s conversation with Colson concerning clemency
                    -Hunt         

                    -Mitchell        

            -Staff members’ notes of conversations with the President
                    -President’s ownership
                    -Haig
                    -Possible misuse


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 

[Personal returnable]

[Duration: 43 s ] 

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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                   Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. August-2011)

                                                           Conversation No. 437-11 (cont’d)

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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      Watergate       

            -President’s conversation with Dean, March 21 

                   -President’s conversation with Haig      



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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 

[Personal returnable]

[Duration: 1 m 43 s ] 


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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Watergate
            -President’s conversation with Dean, March 21
                   -President’s conduct during meeting
            -President’s knowledge of Ehrlichman’s call to Herbert W. Kalmbach
                   -Mitchell
                   -Fundraising
            -President’s knowledge of fund-raising 

                   -Kalmbach and Mitchell           

                   -Dean         

                   -Cuban defense fund           

            -Fundraising
                   -Obstruction of justice
                           -Intent of individuals
                                   -Defendants’ testimony regarding non-Watergate activities
            -Haldeman’s possible testimony          

                   -Executive privilege         

                   -Third party conversations         

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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                   Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. August-2011)

                                                          Conversation No. 437-11 (cont’d)

                    -Haldeman’s notes
                          -Content
                                 -Eillot L. Richardson
                          -March and April 1973
                          -Discussion of defendants
            -Dean
                    -Role in conspiracy
                    -Conversations with President
                           -Thomas Pappas           

            -Colson         

            -Haldeman          

                    -Possible problems
            -Staff members’ notes
                    -President’s ownership
                    -Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Colson
            -Ehrlichman
                    -Buzhardt’s view
                    -Pressure on Buzhardt for full disclosure
            -Need for full disclosure
                    -Possible sworn affidavits by Haldeman and Ehrlichman
            -Walters’s memcons
                    -Haldeman’s possible affidavit
            -Dean
                    -CIA
            -Haldeman’s view of break-in as set-up


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 

[Personal returnable]

[Duration: 1 m 18 s ] 


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                    Tape Subject Log 

                                    (rev. August-2011)

                                                           Conversation No. 437-11 (cont’d)


             -Ehrlichman’s conversation with the President at San Clemente regarding
              clemency, Summer 1972
             -Ehrlichman’s conversation with the President at San Clemente concerning cover-
              up, June 1972 

                    -Discussion of dangers of cover-up 

                    -Harry S. Truman          

                    -Ehrlichman’s testimony         

             -Walters        

                    -President’s motive in involving with FBI 



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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 

[National security]

[Duration: 4 s ] 



      Walter’s knowledge of CIA


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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      Watergate       

            -Walters        

                   -President’s motive in involving with FBI 

                           -Mexican bank money          

            -Mexican bank money           

                   -Chronology of revelation         

            -Dean        

                   -Documents         

                           -Huston plan        

                                  -Cancellation of implementation        

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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                    Tape Subject Log 

                                    (rev. August-2011)

                                                          Conversation No. 437-11 (cont’d)

             -Huston plan
                    -Louis W. Tordella
                    -Consideration by the President and Haldeman
                    -Surreptitious entry and burglary
                    -Meeting with law enforcement agency heads on coordinated action
                    -Hoover’s objections
                    -Approval/cancellation


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5 

[Personal returnable]

[Duration: 2 m 45 s ] 


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5

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      Watergate       

            -Haldeman’s possible public statement 

                   -Possible return to grand jury 

            -Dean         

                   -Interview with Walter L. Cronkite 

            -Need for full disclosure 

                   -Format         

            -Possible demand for impeachment vote 

                   -Buzhardt and Haig          

            -Impeachment
                   -House of Representatives procedures
                   -Bella S. Abzug
                   -Buzhardt’s strategy
            -National mood
            -Robert C. Odle, Jr.’s testimony before Ervin Committee
            -Separation from operations to plug leaks
                   -Pentagon Papers
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                    Tape Subject Log 

                                    (rev. August-2011)

                                                           Conversation No. 437-11 (cont’d)

             -John J. (“Jack”) Caulfield and clemency 

             -McCord’s testimony, May 18 

                     -Caulfield and the President
                              -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.’s statements
                              -Mitchell and Jeb S[tuart] Magruder
                     -Edward J. Gurney’s statements            

             -Caulfield’s possible testimony           

             -Need for full disclosure 

                     -Possible affidavits by Haldeman and Ehrlichman
             -Odle’s testimony before Ervin Committee
                     -Inaccuracy of press reports
                              -Washington Post
                              -Paper shredding
                              -Visit to McCord’s office
                              -Eugenio Martinez’s notebook
                                        -Washington Post
                                        -FBI       

             -Ehrlichman           

             -Possible resignation             

                     -Haldeman’s resignation             

                              -Raymond K. Price, Jr.         

             -Guilt         

                     -President, Haldeman and Ehrlichman          

             -Impeachment              

                     -Resignation            

                     -Possible Senate trial          

                     -Resignation            

                              -Timing            

                     -Trial          

                     -Stewart J. O. Alsop’s view 

                              -Andrew Johnson

The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 12:49 pm and 1:52
pm.

[Conversation No. 437-11A]
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. August-2011)

                                                           Conversation No. 437-11 (cont’d)

[Begin telephone conversation]

       Unknown person [Haig ?]’s schedule

[End telephone conversation]

       Haldeman’s schedule

       Watergate
             -White House strategy
                    -Haig

       Haldeman’s schedule

Haldeman left at 1:52 pm.