Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 449 › Conversation 449-015

Nixon & Haldeman on Presidential travel and William P. Rogers

Tuesday, September 21, 1971 · 2:35 PM–2:57 PM ET · Oval Office ·1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Conversation449-015 onTape 449 (tape position 02:46:47–02:48:30)StartTuesday, September 21, 1971 at 2:35 PMEndTuesday, September 21, 1971 at 2:57 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 449-015 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman coordinated travel logistics and messaging strategies for upcoming presidential trips to Anchorage, Montana, and Oregon. They discussed the involvement of Secretary of State William P. Rogers, specifically debating whether he should join the President to deliver foreign policy briefings to regional editors. The discussion also addressed the assignment of domestic policy representatives, including John D. Ehrlichman and George P. Shultz, to balance the administration's public outreach agenda.

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if he was going to go, do it separately or go with us?
Is he going with us to Montana too?
You know, if he wants to, he might go up there and give those, if he wanted to pay us up in a hurry,
Go out and get a little foreign policy pitch, you know, for those editors.
Who's going to be there to do the domestic one?
Well, that's good, Tim.
That's good proof.
But I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
I agree.
That's enough.
Okay.
That's all right.
Yeah, fine, whatever you want, son.
Okay, bye.

NARA Description

On September 21, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:35 pm and 2:57 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 449-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 449-15

Date: September 21, 1971
Time: Unknown between 2:35 pm and 2:57 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
     The President's trips
          -William P. Rogers
                 -Attendance
                       -Anchorage
                       -Montana
                 -Foreign policy issues
                       -Oregon
                       -Editors
          -Domestic policy issues
                 -Oregon
                 -Staff
                       -John D. Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz

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  • 449-011 12:25 PM · 10 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Kenneth E. BeLieu, William E. Timmons, White House photographer, and Clark MacGregor met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:25 pm to 12:34 pm.
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  • 449-013 1:40 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:40 pm and 2:30 pm.
  • 449-014 2:30 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:30 pm to 2:35 pm.
  • 449-016 2:57 PM · 54 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:57 pm and 4:04 pm.
  • 449-017 4:04 PM · 19 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:04 pm to 4:23 pm.
  • 449-018 4:23 PM · 35 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Prince Fahd ibn Abd al-Aziz Al Saud, Ibrahim al-Sowayel, Joseph J. Sisco, Camile Nowfels, Harold H. Saunders, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:23 pm to 5:00 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 449-015, September 21, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/449-015 (accessed September 18, 2026).