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Let me see you on the side.

Yeah, he ignored the existence.

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Do you, yeah, do you, do they inform you when they're having events there?

Do you know about the whole East Wing schedule or any other social events or what?

Only those that are about the East Wing.

How are you about, who informed us about events that did not involve me, like, for example, they opened, I didn't know if they had an

first time in history an exhibit of Negro art.

We know that Edgar apparently didn't because what happened was that at the time that Connie Stewart scheduled the opening and President of Tuskegee and all these blacks there, nobody covered it because in the past, Edgar had scheduled a briefing with Laos at that same time.

You see that court,

You know, that's it.

I don't think anybody should have had that over there.

Black folks over there.

Okay.

The argument the other way is that you overdo all the, you know, carry away with the box.

That should have been.

I just wanted one of them.

That was it.

That was the one I had.

And I just had to go over there.

That's what I meant.

Or.

have the Blacks in here with books.

But I would have, I would have frankly emphasized that rather than have the Blacks in here with books.

That didn't get much coverage.

So we had none of them that day.

The Blacks aren't getting a lot of coverage.

So did the book that day.

They are getting in and out.

I won't get into this stuff.

I don't know.

I'm sorry, sir.

But the recommendation was better.

I guess just be sure that Zickert doesn't, doesn't, uh,

and put on a thing when she has some.

Maybe it got coverage.

Hell, I don't care anything about the damn thing except that we should double up on an event.

These men, lots of those events are very good that they do over there.

She has the, you know, the BFWI and all that sort of thing, and I'd like to see them covered, and I wouldn't, I wouldn't run them into complications with some of the crap we do over here.

That gets to a different kind of point, which we've not been very successful at.

I don't think probably at a movie, which isn't good.

The White House press corps, our press corps, will not cover, doesn't cover any of that stuff.

They don't care about that stuff.

I'm including the opening of the black art.

In my own back, for the black art, I don't think they'd cover white, but I think they'd cover the black art.

Just because of the black, but anyway, it just may be that it was, let me see where...

but I was very, I want you to get, leave it to Alex, let him out, because I don't want to get you into a problem, too.

You see, the problem is, it's not going to be good.

Somebody over here is watching out for it, apparently.

It doesn't matter to them.

It's either their stuff.

And you know, I asked Chris first, what do you say to somebody over here that I think one or two is enough, and they haven't had one that many in that many days?

I'll cover it.

Yeah, that's absolutely right.

Maybe we got a lot.

That's what I meant.

I don't think I would have done that.

a lot of black stuff for one day.

Maybe just do the ones.

Let her receive both.

The reason for that, doing it that day, was that it was, that was Negro History Week and we were trying to show you doing something on Negro History Week and she doing something on Negro History Week.

And the right, where we got the coverage, it might be exactly where we want it, which is in the black publications.

I'm good.

We have a lot of tenors.

You're right.

Well, you want some of the others, you got some of the others.

Just take the big thing out of it.

Benny and all those people got, you know, got signed on.

I know a lot of people didn't make their comments on this stuff.

But when you get Alex in, it goes down.

And you get all my fathers.

And they got all those, and Alex, and it sort of bothered the tree, you know.

Chapin and the scheduler, and keep you, you know, let's keep ourselves on the big things.

And then just leave it all to him, Bob.

Alex, Bob Chapin, Connie, you know, all that stuff.

And Alex has the scheduling, that's all.

So we just have the day, get in the week.

Bob, I've got to start facing that.

The education message goes up today that your awesome thing is going to be the big man.

What you decide, we decide tomorrow.

The lack of a meeting will still be important.

It might be that it would be a good idea tomorrow at LEA Urban Engineering.

We've got these things banging away.

They'll be separate stories.

You've got to go with what you like.

I think the education message is worth it.

I think if you do it every time, it's a higher obligation than I don't think it is.

But what I was thinking, if you do it every time, it gets too common.

And it looks like, I think Reverend Mr. Ernie,

It's worth doing, don't you?

Well, it's just LEAA revenue check.

See, we're saying our specific revenue check, that's what we're sending first up.

And then we get the consumer message on this.

Back on the hell with it.

I'm not going to do that.

I do not.

Well, I suppose I should say, no, what do you think?

I don't think you should do that.

I can't.

I can't be the first option.

Stay on that.

Thank you.

I saw one by Helen Thomas, which was mainly the fiend.

It was good, but not very sparky, because it didn't catch Manolo.

But it was a good story.

It was sparky, too, because it had the fiend, but it didn't have Manolo.

And Manolo had about how she wanted to have a little seat with them, and she got up and they had their heart pulled through her room.

Yeah, it was trying to slow down.

It was trying to do what I wanted.

I had to agree with Manolo.

Manolo has got a great sense of humor, and that's in this one, and it says, it closes with the little man he goes over and says, Manolo was, what he's done.

As he gets into trouble, too, there's, for example, there was a time that the dealer that fired you fired was in San Clemente and had almost burned the house down, and said, I read White House days, demanded to know what he had done, and he says, maybe next time I won't smoke pot in the basement.

The way that this thing is beginning to work out now.

Hell, it's just a perfect bumper, and you really couldn't just let him do it, but I think Ziegler must not, Ziegler's got to realize it's just out of courtesy, you know, build up to repress stuff, you know what I mean?

And don't think that everything over here is a coming of the second Christ, you know, because it really isn't.

And I don't want it to be.

I don't want any of it.

Her main thing to see on the schedule, we work right here.

We got her stuff on, for instance, tomorrow, she's doing the National Club.

I don't want to hear her not doing it.

And she's doing the governor's meeting on Wednesday.

She's doing the Postal Street Academy on Thursday.

She booked the days when you're not doing things.

And they work damn hard to do that.

But this one was just purely.

But see, there's a kind of thing that happens.

Now, Thursday, you were going to do the thing Thursday night, right?

And we were booked for that.

So she was booked to do the Postal Street Academy at 2.30 Thursday afternoon.

Now you're going to do it.

Well, what if we decide on this three the best time?

I think so.

I'll keep going, because I don't have the figures yet, and that'll make it interesting.

I don't think that...

I don't think that... Bob, I don't think we give a damn about the money.

I think, really, what we do is forget about radio.

We go even after we want to release the story, and that time you want to release the story, what time you want to put on the television.

And let the radio audience be what the hell the radio audience is.

I accept that you might as well hit it at noon some way.

Maybe that's the deal.

I don't think people look at television and say, no, it doesn't.

Noon doesn't really have any magic.

There's something to say to the radio story that comes at a time like this.

It kind of restrains her and she'll growl at you.

I really am not quite ready, you know.

I'm figuring on working on a Wednesday afternoon.

Thursday and then put the report out for Saturday morning papers.

Saturday p.m. papers.

I do it for Friday p.m. Friday a.m. Friday a.m. is where you do that.

No, no, I start Friday p.m. Friday p.m.

Right.

And it goes for Saturday and Sunday a.m.

The Sunday is where you're going to get...

Anybody can carry the whole thing if anybody does.

At the time, it's fine, but they'll have to do it as a supplement.

It's too tempting to just run it in the paper.

Listen to us.

I can't wait to get the message through.

Clearly, I thought I would have never had a man in my life.

I'm sure I've been lying here for long.

I think you did.

I deliberately did not look at it.

I don't really care.

We don't pay much attention to it after this.

It doesn't mean anything.

We've got a small business, super high-level business group briefing today.

And it might be, what they're suggesting is that we run them through here at the beginning of the open hour this morning.

They're awful high-level.

It's a good briefing.

Whitehead, Packard, and McCracken, it's a, I can't not encode that, it's covered in a whole bunch of stuff, but it's a series of repeats setting up.

Who's coming is Romnus.

Milledge Park, Carol Janine, Bob Gallagher, Pat Haggerty, and Sam Wiley.

And the question is whether I did, because they're so high level, I don't think you should run through them.

If you're seeing Sam Wiley.

I can't do it.

I don't really think I'm on the truce.

I saw higher office last week.

I see Pat Haggerty.

I saw Pat Haggerty in the science thing.

I can't do it.

I'm not going to sit down.

The thought was, at the end of their event, it should be the start of the open door, rather than you running.

You know what I mean?

It's fine if they just come through, and I thank them for coming in.

I appreciate them for giving the benefit for bringing something like that.

But don't think I'm not going to have that horrible time.

I'm going to spend the time.

Yeah.

It's not fair.

I mean, when I do it, I just have to spend an hour.

Now, I want to spend an hour.

I do.

Or do you agree?

I don't think this is the time.

If I were to get through, I wouldn't get back to them.

This is my hour.

They're good.

They're not in front of you for a handshake.

You've got to get this okay if you want.

On Wednesday, we work on a heavy witness that I think we ought to reconsider.

And I don't think I even raised it with you.

They're bringing in the...

What they call our federal executive board, what it is, is our regional office heads of the 25 executive boards.

You've met with them.

This will also include the regional council.

They're bringing them in for, there will be 100 people there.

They want reorganization primarily.

They're the ones that are going to have to carry it out.

They are basically civil servants.

They just want you to say the same kind of thing as you've said on these other meetings.

Work on a briefing.

I haven't had a work on it.

But I got it.

It's Wednesday.

For this kind of a meeting, an excellent briefing paper, apparently Rumsfeld or something, I think.

The one that was sending it to you.

But the point is, if you make sure that Henry

Did you notice it by any chance?

Yeah, I did.

One sentence on every item.

One sentence, that's all.

Just say, say this, say that, say that.

Just so that I can make it work.

Without that saying, you might want to read out the question for a whole, a whole long, detailed business about everything.

But he really covered it extremely well.

I marked it for you.

I thought you'd be interested to see it.

It'll also give Romeo a little go at it.

Yeah.

I'll see this through, but

That's what I'm trying to do.

These people are our people.

We hired them.

That's right.

Who's meeting?

Who's doing it?

I don't care what time of day it is.

Wednesday's fine.

In other words, at the beginning of the meeting, it's fine.

It's the best time.

to state tests to reconsider inviting the Prime Minister of Malaysia to RAS Act.

I won't have an argument.

You've reoriented a Malaysian foreign policy in the direction of digitalization.

I'm sorry, I've learned the purpose of American intentions from you directly.

Would you have the ability to do it in March?

Even in Saint-Colombia in March, would you have the ability in Saint-Colombia?

No.

We don't have a safe visit in March.

No.

We can't have a safe visit for the prime minister in Malaysia.

He's not going to do it.

What about an official?

Let him come in for a consultation and he can do it or something like that.

You're saying he can't do it.

I can't do it.

He's not going to do it.

And this farm thing for next Monday, is that still?

Oh, you mean to have the dinner next Monday?

No, not the dinner.

This would be going out to Iowa or someplace.

I think you can talk with John about finding a waiter.

I don't, a waiter couldn't possibly get together at that time.

I don't think it's enough time for planning.

That's my first answer.

There's enough time for planning as long as we don't go to a public meeting.

What they were talking about was holding a meeting where there'd be a briefing on revenue sharing, rural growth, and then keep listening to the problems of farmers' recession.

We would release our message at that time.

What they're after is for him to take the seat by the Democrats.

All right.

I'm going to go out and tell them because that's where we were.

They must have something to say to me.

I don't know.

It's too, uh... No, I wrote it in my...

I don't think it could be that cute.

Come on, it's a lousy little job.

Well, it is hard to get to because you're in San Diego City.

I don't really feel that strongly.

And I don't accept it.

It kind of feels, we're working on a plan to jump out over the day and let's see what we got.

You know, you're working on the course on it.

One thing about that, they've been talking about department when you get into it.

And the waiter came in and said, well, we thought that you recommended Palmview.

Clarence Palmby.

On the YFS, the guy that backs you now is Spencer.

Spencer, yeah.

Well, let me tell you why I turned Palmby down so I didn't put the argument.

Why didn't I turn him down?

I can recommend that he's exactly what we don't need.

He's a program man.

We don't need a program man on the farm.

We're going to go into agriculture to get that, you know.

And what we need is somebody to give the farmer, you know, a pat on the ass and, you know, be enthusiastic.

We care about farmers and that's our thing.

And that's why I went to Spitzer.

Now, Paulie knows a lot more than Spitzer.

Spitzer will be in our hair all the time and the rest, but he'll be very enthusiastic.

I think that's the right line.

Do you agree or not?

Absolutely.

And I think of all of our staff now, when they're doing the therapy kind of thing, like the Negroes.

That's why I like Bob Brown.

Bob Brown probably doesn't know anything about Negroes, but at least he's sort of like, he doesn't care.

He isn't worried about any of the black programs.

He's worried about how that'll keep the blacks always packing on ass.

And the crime response is, have you ever seen the dollar burger?

Oh, he's just a typical farmer, a typical farmer.

And he just, he just put a paw on the whole place.

I mean, pawing in the wild, sleeping the hell over in agriculture.

But I think that Spitzer...

Provided that he's a guy that's, you know, he's always, you remember, enthusiastic.

He's bringing in farmers, you know what I mean?

And he's probably too farm bureau oriented.

I don't know.

How about Joe Parker?

Do they work on him too?

Who?

Your partner?

Yeah, I mentioned him.

He's with me.

I heard he's your partner.

Oh, yeah.

There's a problem with him.

Yeah, he's a lobbyist for the cotton people.

And he got caught.

Did you hear that?

No.

It wasn't that bad, but it created...

He was sitting with an executive.

They have an executive section of the agriculture committee.

And he sat in.

Well, he wasn't supposed to be there.

He sunk himself in somehow and used the information with his clients and...

Yeah, exactly.

Because everything is that bad once you check it out.

The thing about Parker is that Parker is very smart.

He's like Harlow, frankly, Bob.

He's a ginger-grey Harlow.

And with Noah, you know, he's real smoothy.

So that's the way that he said it.

I go back to him.

Spencer's fine, but not all of it.

They're also raising the argument that if we really want to make an effort on it, we can't get the guy we wanted to begin with.

He's really that good.

I've heard of him.

I don't think we want to make that kind of effort, and we owe him too much.

It is an effort with him.

He's the one who's the effort who pays for what he does.

As a matter of simply saying, the voucher is more important to the farm community than the White House and the committee.

MNC Oakwood is going to be here in March for his annual visit, and I'm sure we've met MNC Oakwood, the Secretary General of the Senate, and Bill Rogers has asked that you have a 15-minute diversity.

I have to say, I'm going to be here March 3rd and 4th, and that's when we're shooting for the press conference.

I don't think he's coming.

I can't see him.

I would rather that that's what we did.

Absolutely.

On the second, I want to interfere with that.

Exactly.

That's exactly the line.

Which raises another question.

We were seeking for, and I still think it's a good idea, the possibility of taking the first domestic background on the Fed.

So if you do the press marketing conference Thursday night on foreign policy, it might be a damn good thing to move out on a domestic policy background.

Well, the suggestion, their recommendation for the first one is New York.

And they're trying to pop up a little Syracuse or Rochester.

Where I think we got Buffalo, I think, is best.

It's better than Rochester.

Where you see universities in both Syracuse and Rochester, if you got one in Buffalo, I don't think it's quite so bad.

Now, their recommendations, Buffalo, are bigger paper, bigger kind, right?

It has an extended run in paper.

Not Syracuse, that's all.

Yeah, okay, that's fine.

We'll then put the guy on second, so he can come in second, but otherwise I can't see.

I'm just not going to take the time off.

We've got both of those things cleared.

Oh, yeah.

What we can do is run him on, not the day of, but the day before the afternoon.

All right.

On that period, take me an hour off.

All right.

Okay.

Your son did his graduation.

That's on Friday the 12th, which is when you were going to Florida.

You might as well just go on to Florida from there.

Do you know what Julie will do?

What do you believe then?

I don't know, but it's something to go forward with.

About the lives, which could be explored in congressional lives.

Instead of having dinner and so forth, Pat discussed this with her.

This is something that you need to discuss.

Something that was just an idea.

Having had all the men, that the congressional wives having tea for them.

It's a very nice idea, you know.

But don't do them in Democrat versus Republican races.

She can have about three Gs, you know, three or four Gs where they can count her Gs and have music.

Maybe three or something like that.

Three Gs.

Three Gs for a congressional wife, and it would be an excellent idea.

Then again, do it alphabetically.

Just take a good alphabet and make some parties.

Do it alphabetically and write them all down.

They love to come, you know, they have my jokes to do.

They can have the orchestra and all the rest.

On occasion, I wouldn't do it at all, but on one of them, I might even hop over and say hello to them for a while or something like that.

On that show, you can do different kinds of things.

I think the idea of congressional wives, an excellent idea, is they influence their cousins tremendously, rather than just having a dinner with the Senate wives and then her going down and having a dinner for all the housewives, but having them up there, treaties, discussing, I'll try to, let's see, who would you have discuss that with her?

Have Alex say that we, the congressional people, think it would be extremely helpful as a follow-up for our things.

on revenue sharing and grants, and for her to schedule three teas over a period of about three weeks.

Good.

What about the pictures of two names in the schedule?

There's Winberg, or whatever his name is, the professional in New York who did two of his wedding pictures, if one possible.

She must have done a manly picture, which is correct, and a big picture of two of us, which is correct.

And the other one she mentions is the photographer at the housekeeping who did the pictures there, who is Grace McCulley's photographer, did her pictures and, or at least some of her,

Who's very good.

And is very much for us.

So I'm willing to take a shot of both of those.

So there's one group of pictures for one, and one group of pictures for another.

Okay.

Is he coming or going west?

I'll tell if he's coming.

How about the train?

I think we're gonna fly him up with you on Monday night.

Great.

He's down there anyway, so we can put him on Air Force One with me.

And it does, I hope, you know, just that in itself is a story.

The pooled harbor among generations.

Just the fact that Jackie Lee's on an airplane, there's been so many busts on his train.

That him, you know, just riding on an airplane, just in itself will be a good story.

You should have to gather a sheet and cut it again.

And then we go to Tokyo.

I had one thing, we thought we should do the VFW this year, right?

Yes, sir, and Allegiant next year.

The only problem I had there was with Alex Schenke, of course.

He's a fellow from California, our great friend from Allegiant, coming up to me.

I said, well, I'll just do both this year.

Well, I don't know.

Maybe he don't.

Well, I don't know.

Except you're going to get, against any Democrat, you're going to get a hell of a reception at it.

At the Legion convention.

I'll see you then.

Both.

Huh?

Both conventions are in Texas, unfortunately.

One's in Houston, one's in Dallas this year.

We've already told the BLW, I think we should do them this year.

And you did the Legion dinner.

I did the Legion dinner.

Let's go on the basis of not doing the Legion, which is what they understand now.

Yeah.

You might take a powerful, but you just never know what you may have to pay whatever damn audience or main audience you can.

That's right.

That may be a better way, for example, than the two rallies.

I'm trying to see what it means.

Yes.

That's Frank, right?

You'll get mentioned.

And I know it's not expected to make a lot of money.

But you work it out.

He's asked to come in to report on his dirt fraud.

And we got him to do it very well.

He didn't get him in.

He should have come in.

He's a good friend.

And we don't want to do it in this case.

People like Elon when they leave.

Well, probably not.

She slept.

She told me she got a nice look from Jay, which is fine.

I think anybody that is that close in, you know, like Elon or Shelly or somebody, should have a look from me.

So have a look.

They're very, you know, prepared.

She's going to be a little special because she's going to be, she's a damn good, well, she's a black cereal for us.

knows she's been treated well, she knows there's no damn racism in this place, and I think she'd be great, and she'd get a little note from me, how much it really does get up, you know, and how her being on the back of cheese, her, she, so many people that have come in the office, who live for their day, by her strength and materialism, you know, they like over there in prices.

Because I don't have a clue who had it.

Should Harry had it, he'd come at it sometime.

I haven't seen much of it.

My great esteemed friend, you said to me that we ought to... Now that Heard is gone, of the letters to special editors and or comics and or TV people, rather...

What kinds of letters?

Well, I mean, not the, not the, not the, not the, I don't write any letters.

I probably know how to use it.

Somebody like that, and I'm speaking, I just got to use it.

get their letters from you.

But it's Klein's office.

Klein never has been doing that.

But we have this operation, isn't it?

Yeah.

It probably does get one.

I'm curious.

Let me check and see.

That's a good test because these are the best comments.

I'm sure Klein did.

They generally know and still should go over Klein's signature.

But Klein doesn't.

You know, this is a matter of his... No, no.

You're talking about the ones that go over.

You're talking about my signature.

I've heard the right people saying the President was pleased with this event and the other thing.

Occasionally one should go for my signature, not too often.

You can't do that in the Wall Street Journal, did you see that?

Yeah, I read that.

And the Christian Times monitor.

You don't have to worry about it in terms of trends.

worry about it in terms of whether they are getting across the line to a great number of people.

Well, and watching them and, like, the Agnes Warner thing, you know, using those as your weather names for what the ditch is going to be.

Because that interview, by the way, brings up the idea, yeah, the idea that, well, when they write something, they're going to call them this week, and there's a stimulus going through the company to pack sort of the opening cut across the bottom.

That's right.

Yeah.

And the reason he was calling on Saturday was to say we have a serious problem with this situation.

Terrible distortion of my remarks.

But what he was was engaged in a counterattack.

He said the real problem here is Schultz.

Who is out attacking me?

And he said he's out there, you know, using...

The White House staff is using the press to try to get at Burns.

That's a serious mistake.

That was what he was doing.

First of all, the same way he didn't push you in the middle, he didn't say, and I pushed right back and said, well, I just can't take that.

It really hurt the president.

I played it just in Arthur Bernstein fashion, you know, when he read that thing.

Because, you know, you know how what you're doing with all the people in the country to evidence lack of confidence in the president's economic policy to have the chairman of the Federal Reserve point good is devastating.

I was simply saying that as a question of confidence, not a question.

I said, well, but everybody gets the signal, and you all know, and you say something like that, and that runs through the time.

He sent his, I was rather, he instantly sent his transcript over to me, because he said that at this point, he said, the rest of the years, you have to divide.

I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't.

Okay.

Did you ever get the assistant with you?

No.

He didn't press or anything like that?

No.

Well, I'll just let it open.

I thought you did a good job.

Yes, I did.

Was he pleased?

I did.

Because I heard that he did a hell of a good job.

Just saying.

Bridges did a good job yesterday.

I heard he did a good job.

That's right.

The point is, both those calls were brilliant.

They bothered me there.

Cisco was even more blatant than anybody else.

They said, well, the president did this and that and the other thing.

I said, except when I'm trying to... Cisco wasn't as good as this.

He hurt once and he had to do this.

The president, he did a hell of a job on the...

general approach.

And he had a couple good points on how strong the president, the position of the president, was taking.

Rumpstoke had a damn good one.

We're getting these guys turned.

All right, for this kind of stuff.

We're out of Rumpstoke.

We can get more boys to come in.

Oh, you look at what happened on the press.

Oh, he went over and did the YRs.

He didn't make a salary after them.

And they just cut it together.

He said there were 1,100 in their listening domain.

There were 40 outlisting of McCloskey at the same time.

Of the 40, 20 were out there with signs saying, Impeach McCloskey and things like that.

At the end of the session, they passed a resolution praising the president and his policies.

They passed another resolution condemning McCloskey.

None of that was reported.

All that was reported was that McCloskey staged a rally outside the Republican YRB.

The AP was in there covering it.

John took on Larry O'Brien on his half-assed domestic program.

Not one line of it was reported.

If it was, it was working because of Joe.

If I take on Larry O'Brien, that is possible.

They have no illusions about the presence of the behind-the-court program, despite what Bill Rodgers says and so forth about the fact that, well, this is what it is.

We still have the big guns.

We're going to keep using our big guns.

I have to go on and go on and go on.

It's a hell of a lot of things we have to do, but it's a sign.

It's a sign that it is welcome.

It's a sign that there's 1,100 people.

Each of you has a standing ovation.

You know, they cheer you, they scream, they apologize.

The world will never know about McCloskey.

I didn't get Reagan.

I called him and said, hey, could you follow up on that with a chance?

Are you one of the, who's the one that's supposed to Reagan around?

Who do you decide to do Reagan?

Different people, absolutely agonists.

How do they all react?

Yes, sir.

Well, my kid had a call.

He said, I don't want to hang with old Dave McCloskey on it.

I think it's just as good, like Mabel was up there.

I don't know, maybe it's the one that... Great.

Oh, it's a good sign, right?

It puts it back to a picture of its...

Yeah.

He hasn't been able to do anything with that Wilson thing.

I didn't think we could.

My feeling on that is that that sort of thing probably isn't working out quite well.

I think you can put your finger on it, unless you happen to be in the middle of the day or you're on TV, you know, and write it.

But we'll put it this way.

If you write it, you're going to print it or say anything about it.

We've got something the next morning online.

We got on both CBS and NBC.

It wasn't on both.

Back to the other side, what is your evaluation now of both that and our office press conference in terms of getting it back?

You got some play back on the office press conference again.

You did fall out of it all along.

I think as long as we look at it in the context of this, it is one thing to do

and not try to take each one on the basis of was that the best thing we could have done?

Because it never will be.

You can't get this thing you could have done.

You've got to get a home run every time.

Sometimes you've got to get a sacrifice.

Sometimes you've got to get it single.

And if you try to get a home run every week, it's different than that.

Also, the market won't take it home.

The market won't take it.

That's what we've got to recognize.

Like this thing, you need a home run.

I'm going to be perfectly frank with you.

Henry has been practically buggered me to death about wanting me to go on national TV on this goddamn world report.

I'm totally wasting time with you.

I've been.

Yeah, of course.

See, I said it before.

Mark, I'm fine.

I'll fix you a second.

I said, Henry, I'm going to see you.

I'm going to see you.

No, but I mean, Samar, take it because Samar, he's working for us.

Samar, I think it's a good idea.

The only argument Samar came back with was, why not use this as your first televised fireside chat?

You know, just sit and chat.

Don't try to make a big thing out of it.

I said, well, as long as I like this, I'm going to do that with it, not on Thursday night.

You know, that kind of thing.

No, no, no.

Could I suggest that we, I didn't make a note, but I do think that we might sometime talk about dope on educational television.

I noticed that and I marketed it.

When I go through these letters, I know that I'll expose her to my marketing and all that.

It occurred to me, one child wrote in and says that she'd gotten a letter and said, I wish you'd talk to people in reality about dope.

Yeah, I saw that.

What do you think of that?

Let's do it.

Just for the...

You know what it is, Bob?

You know the fireside chats?

Nobody heard the goddamn thing.

Some read about them.

There were only four a year.

But everybody thinks they were done.

It's like the blacks.

It's like our kids.

Four a year.

My view is, my view is, is to do something like this.

And with anything you have done, like the press conference, they're dead all the time.

I still, I like that idea, and I think that's something to do, you know, is do it on educational TV.

And don't make all that much effort.

Don't make a great effort, and it's not like I'm not going to try to memorize it.

I agree.

I'm ready to go.

I'm going to use an example and use a couple of charts.

That's why I'm not trying to do such a hell of an effort on it.

We are pushing too hard around here to have me.

Every time I go up here, I'm going to have them run.

And I will try.

That's how you try the experiment of the teleprompter.

That's the one where you try the experiment of the teleprompter.

Yeah, they use that.

Plus, you have the text, but also where you can look up, have it going, so you have to look up and find it correctly.

We might, because that doesn't make any difference to me.

It doesn't work, it doesn't matter.

It doesn't make any difference to me.

Now, it's a possibility.

I don't know about our office, but we've got to stir it up a little bit.

We've got to do our job.

They did, yeah.

Times is, obviously they, because Wigger, and the editor, they all acted, they all did.

The Post sometimes didn't get the message or something went wrong, because they were in a very positive editorial office.

Had, you know, they said about going to Laos, but sometimes the Post are really talking about going to the Arctic, which I'm pleased they're going to Laos.

Well, the Times is kind of on the bottom.

And, well, times just think the optimization is failing.

You've now admitted that you're now escalating the war, pursuing the will of the wisps of victory.

uh the main thing

You see, I told you not to have this in the house.

It's a very good article.

In fact, we'll take it to Time Magazine this week.

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