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Start Date: 22-Feb-1971 3:09 PM

End Date: 22-Feb-1971 3:50 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Shultz, George P.Ehrlichman, John D.Bull, Stephen B.Woods, Rose Mary

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:52:11

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:29:49

455-022.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman, Stephen B. Bull, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:09 pm to 3:50 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 455-022 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 455-22

Date: February 22, 1971
Time: 3:09 pm - 3:50 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with George P. Shultz and John D. Ehrlichman

     Welfare Reform Bill
          -Participants
          -Wilbur D. Mills
                -Social Security
                -Mills’ view
                -Russell B. Long
                -Role in House of Representatives
                      -Richard K. Cook
          -Elliot L. Richardson’s view
                -Revenue sharing
                -Prospects for passage
                      -Mills
          -Food stamps and other reform proposals
                -Democratic opposition
                -Status in House
                -Clifford M. Hardin
                      -John G. Veneman

     Roger O. Egeberg
         -Replacement
               -Richardson

     Welfare Reform Bill
          -Public service employment
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 9/08)



           -Department of Labor view
     -Special Revenue Sharing
           -Funding
           -Manpower training
     -Administration view
     -Job creation
           -Manpower training
           -Revenue sharing                               Conv. No. 455-22 (cont.)

Egeberg
    -Richardson
         -New position

Health program
     -”First Dollar” approach

Richardson
     -Senate testimony
          -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy’s committee
     -”Face The Nation” performance
     -Welfare reform
          -Administration efforts
                -Congressional opposition
                -Congressional hearings
                -Mills

“Brand name” concept
     -John B. Connally
     -Welfare reform
     -Revenue sharing
     -Law enforcement

Suspension of Davis-Bacon Act
     -James D. Hodgson
     -Inflation
     -Construction industry
           -Shultz’s position
                -Voluntary restraints
     -Wage and price freeze
           -Problems
     -Alternatives
     -Wage limit
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 9/08)



     -American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO]
     -Wage Price Board
          -Hodgson
     -Union view
          -Effect on construction industry
     -Administration strategy
          -Legal maneuvers
               -Possible congressional action                  Conv. No. 455-22 (cont.)
               -Court challenges
               -Legislative action

The President’s schedule
     -Leadership meeting agenda
          -Wage and price action
                 -Hugh Scott
          -Consumer legislation
          -Laos
          -Suspension of Davis-Bacon Act
                 -Administration position
                 -Shultz
                 -Hodgson
          -Length of meeting

National economy
     -Suspension of Davis-Bacon Act
     -Inflation psychology
     -Wage and price controls
           -President’s position
           -Connally’s forthcoming testimony
                 -Administration’s response
                      -Congress
                      -Shultz’s forthcoming call to Connally
                      -Wage Price Board
                      -Arthur F. Burns
                            -Federal Reserve System
                                  -Wage Stabilization Board
                      -Wage and price control
                            -President’s view

The President’s schedule
     -Forthcoming meeting with Dr. Edward E. David, Jr.
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 9/08)



     Housing
         -Department of Housing and Urban Development
              -George W. Romney
         -Department of Justice
         -Location of housing projects
              -Administration position
                    -President’s view
                    -Romney                                     Conv. No. 455-22 (cont.)
                    -John N. Mitchell
                    -Samuel C. Jackson speech
         -Administration strategy
              -Small homeowners
                    -Effect of legislation
              -Federal coercion
                    -Civil rights impact
              -Housing project construction
                    -Effects
                    -Administration position
                          -Prince George’s County
                          -Fairfax County
                          -Ronald L. Ziegler’s statement
                    -Use of federal power
                          -Options

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:09 pm

     Rose Mary Woods

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:46 pm

Woods entered at 3:46 pm

     The President’s schedule
          -Shotgun from Khrushchev
               -Use by Connally

Woods left at 3:49 pm

          -Peter G. Peterson
                -Meeting with the President
          -Connally
                -Meeting with the President
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 9/08)




     Statement prepared by Ehrlichman and Hodgson
          -Timing
          -Delivery to governors
          -Press

Shultz and Ehrlichman left at 3:50 pm
                                                                        Conv. No. 455-22 (cont.)