Conversation: 455-023
Prev: 455-022 Next: 455-024Start Date: 22-Feb-1971 3:50 PM
End Date: 22-Feb-1971 4:33 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); David, Edward E., Jr. (Dr.); Flanigan, Peter M.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); [Unknown person(s)]; Ehrlichman, John D.; Nixon, Richard M. (President); David, Edward E., Jr. (Dr.); Flanigan, Peter M.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); [Unknown person(s)]; Ehrlichman, John D.;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 05:29:49
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 06:13:00
NARA Description:
On February 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Dr. Edward E. David, Jr., Peter M. Flanigan, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:50 pm to 4:33 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 455-023 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 455-23
Date: February 22, 1971
Time: 3:50 pm - 4:33 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Dr. Edward E. David, Jr. and Peter M. Flanigan
The President’s schedule
-Forthcoming Science Advisory Committee meeting
-Attendance
-Possible photograph with the President
-Possible luncheon
H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at an unknown time after 3:50 pm
-Governors’ meeting
-Timing
-Press coverage
-Edward L. Morgan
[The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 3:50 pm and 3:57
pm]
[Conversation No. 455-23A]
Request that John D. Ehrlichman return to Oval Office
[End of telephone conversation]
The President’s schedule
-Luncheon for Science Advisory Committee
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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-Arrangements
Scientists and technicians
-Unemployment
-Use of aerospace engineers and scientists
-Problems of Doctors of Philosophy [PhD]
-Flanigan
Ehrlichman entered at 3:57 pm Conv. No. 455-23 (cont.)
-Administration concern
-March meeting with the President
-Meeting with technicians
-Raymond J. Waldman’s efforts
-David Packard’s work
-Federal aid to universities
-Use of money
-George P. Shultz’s view
-Great programs
-President’s view
-University of California
-Massachusetts Institute of Technology
-New York Times article, 2/22
-Stanford University
-National Science Foundation
-David’s role
-Budget
-Training program
-Grants
-Breakdown of spending
-Antarctic program
-Need
-Bids for government contracts
-Consortiums
-Waldman’s role
-Unemployment
-Effect
-Compared to other individuals
-Number
-President’s position
-Market distortion for PhD’s
-Compared to stock brokerages
-Compared to lawyers
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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-Scientists compared to engineers
-Administration efforts
-Loans from Small Business Administration [SBA]
Haldeman left at 4:05 pm
-The President’s meeting on minority businesses
-Leonard Garment’s views Conv. No. 455-23 (cont.)
-Sources of funds
-Use by unemployed scientists
-Model cities
-Environment
-Possible jobs
-Barry M. Goldwater’s views
-Market distortion of wages
-White collar workers
-Productivity increase
The President’s schedule
-Forthcoming meeting with Science Advisory Committee
-Details
-James C. Fletcher
-Meeting with the President
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-Fletcher
Space program
-International participation
-President’s position
-Germany and Japan
-Space Shuttle
-Development costs
-Forms
-U. Alexis Johnson’s view
-Technology
-Intelsat
-President’s position
-Docking cooperation with Soviet Union
-Germany
-Japan
-Great Britain
-Technology problems
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Soviet boosters
-Space lab
-Docking technology
-Administration position
Ehrlichman left at 4:19 pm
Technology Conv. No. 455-23 (cont.)
-Patrick E. Haggerty’s view
-Balance of trade/productivity
-Japan and Hong Kong
-Space program/nuclear development
-Effect on balance of payments
-Common Market competition
-Strengths
-Supersonic Transport [SST] and Space Shuttle
-Materials
-David’s role
-President’s position
-Hosting international conference
-Possibility
-Soviet activity
-Scientists and engineers
-Benefits
-Soviet scientist participation
-Efforts
-Agenda
-Participation
-Possible topics
-Space launches
-Timing
-Attendance at conference
-Possible topics
-Computer technology
-Moynihan
-Cancer research
-Purpose of science
-Energy
-Desalination
-Technological status
-Importance
-Agriculture
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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-Unnamed Nobel Prize winner
-Research with corn
-United States’ production
-Southeast Asia
-Africa
-India
-Pakistan
-Vietnam Conv. No. 455-23 (cont.)
David left at 4:33 pm
Appointments
-Fred J. Russell
-Ambassador to Australia
-Walter L. Rice
-Kenneth Franzheim, II
-Russell
-Flanigan’s forthcoming conversation with Russell
Flanigan left at 4:33 pm