Nixon White House TapesTape 456 › Conversation 456-019

Nixon with unidentified visitors in the Oval Office on Body image

Tuesday, February 23, 1971 · 3:08 PM–3:22 PM ET · Oval Office ·16 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  [Unknown person(s)]Conversation456-019 onTape 456 (tape position 03:34:04–03:34:52)StartTuesday, February 23, 1971 at 3:08 PMEndTuesday, February 23, 1971 at 3:22 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 456-019 ↗

President Nixon held a brief, informal discussion with an unidentified participant regarding personal sentiments on physical appearance. The dialogue centered on the expression of subjective preferences toward body image. No formal policy decisions or administrative actions were recorded during this brief exchange.

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We've always believed in a little rule that says, you know, the decent size of a woman is the decent size of a woman.
And I hope that everyone will be like that.

On February 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:08 pm and 3:22 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 456-019 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 456-19

Date: February 23, 1971
Time: Unknown between 3:08 pm and 3:22 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with an unknown person

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The unknown person left at an unknown time before 3:22 pm
  • 456-013 2:09 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:09 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 456-014 2:09 PM · 27 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:09 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 456-015 2:09 PM · 2 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:09 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 456-016 3:00 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:00 pm to 3:05 pm.
  • 456-017 3:05 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William L. Safire met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:05 pm to 3:08 pm.
  • 456-018 3:08 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:08 pm and 3:22 pm.
  • 456-020 3:22 PM · 16 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:22 pm and 4:06 pm.
  • 456-021 4:08 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:08 pm to 4:09 pm.

Conversation 456-019, February 23, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/456-019 (accessed September 18, 2026).