Conversation 464-012

TapeTape 464StartTuesday, March 9, 1971 at 12:26 PMEndTuesday, March 9, 1971 at 1:30 PMTape start time02:39:33Tape end time03:46:46ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  Bull, Stephen B.;  Woods, Rose Mary;  Ziegler, Ronald L.;  [Unknown person(s)];  White House operator;  Kendall, William T.Recording deviceOval Office

On March 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, Rose Mary Woods, Ronald L. Ziegler, unknown person(s), White House operator, and William T. Kendall met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:26 pm to 1:30 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 464-012 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 464-12

Date: March 9, 1971
Time: 12:26 pm - 1:30 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
     President’s schedule
           -Henry A. Kissinger
                 -Time
     Polls
           -President’s credibility
                 -George H. Gallup poll
                      -Percentages
                      -Vietnam War
                 -White House-sponsored poll

An unknown person [Stephen B. Bull?] entered at an unknown time after 12:26 pm

     President’s schedule
          -Meeting with Kissinger
                -Time

The unknown person [Bull?] left at an unknown time before 12:36 pm

     Polls
             -President’s credibility
                   -Vietnam War
                        -White House-sponsored poll
                        -Gallup poll
                        -Louis Harris poll
                        -Compared with Lyndon B. Johnson
                              -A 1967 Gallup poll

     Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
          -Possible attendance at Congressional leaders meetings

     Japanese textile trade negotiations
          -Peter M. Flanigan’s role
                -Kissinger

                  -Japanese industry
                       -Wilbur D. Mills’ involvement

     Cabinet meetings
          -Leader
                -Cabinet secretary
                -Alexander P. Butterfield
                -George P. Shultz
          -President’s role

     Polls
     White House staff
           -Public relations group
                -Frequency of meetings

     Polls
             -Chilton poll
             -Percentages
             -Date
                   -Effect of President’s press conference, televised conversation, State of the
                        Union
             -Gallup poll
             -Opinion Research Corporation [ORC] poll
                   -January figures compared with March figures
             -Gallup poll
             -1970 figures
             -Chilton poll

Rose Mary Woods entered at 12:36 pm

     Presidential gifts
          -Robert H. Abplanalp, Elmer B. Bobst, and Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
                -Pen set
                -Clock
                -White House glasses

Woods left at 12:38 pm

     Polls
             -Effect of State of the Union address
                  -Harris poll
                  -Gallup poll
                         -Possible effect of Laos operation (Lam Son)
             -January figures
             -John B. Connally’s view
                  -December, 1970
                  -Before and after State of the Union address
             -Gallup poll
             -ORC poll
             -Gallup poll
                  -Before President’s press conference
                  -Next polling
             -Questions
                  -Vietnam War
             -Gallup and Harris polls
                  -Approval ratings
                  -January and February figures
                         -Effect of Laos operation (Lam Son)
                         -Gallup poll

Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:38 pm

     President’s schedule
          -Kissinger meeting
                -Time

Bull left at an unknown time before 1:05 pm

     Polls
             -Gallup poll
                  -January

     Kissinger’s schedule
          -Meeting at State Department
                -Postponement

     Peter G. Peterson
           -Knowledge of textiles
           -Foreign trade

     Polls
             -Gallup poll
                  -Vietnam
                  -January

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at an unknown time after 12:38 pm

Ziegler left at an unknown time before 1:05 pm

[Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 12:38 pm and 1:05 pm]

[Conversation No. 464-12A ]

     Delivery of poll information

[End of telephone conversation]

     Polls
             -A question regarding shortening the war
                  -Harris and Gallup polls compared with ORC poll
                  -Sample
             -Timing
                  -President’s press conference
             -Cambodian operation
                  -Compared with Laotian operation (Lam Son)
                         -Approval ratings
             -Results
                  -Compared with Cambodian operation
             -Effect of events
                  -Press conference
                  -President’s foreign policy report
                  -State of the Union address
                  -President’s televised conversation
                  -President’s Cambodia announcement

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 12:38 pm

     Poll information

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 1:30 pm

Polls
        -Changes
        -President’s credibility
        -Media credibility
              -Commentators, press
        -Congressional credibility
        -President’s credibility
        -Television networks’ credibility
        -A question on withdrawal from Vietnam
              -Wording
        -Question on credibility of press
        -Vietnam War

White House staff
     -Public relations group
          -Laos operation (Lam Son)
                 -Effort regarding President’s credibility and effort
     -Raymond K. Price, Jr.’s office
          -A suggestion by Connally

Presidency
     -Price’s view
           -Traits
     -Dwight D. Eisenhower
     -Connally’s view
           -Public perception of President
           -President
           -President’s public appearances
                 -Des Moines
                 -Campaign behavior compared with presidential behavior
                 -President’s view
                 -Press coverage

President’s schedule
     -Meetings with Congressmen and young Senators
           -Public relations
                 -Surrogate speakers
           -Breakfasts
                 -A scheduled breakfast
                       -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:38 pm and
1:05 pm]

[Conversation No. 464-12B]

     Call to Peter H. B. Frelinghuysen

     Campaigning
           -Connally
           -Scheduling
           -1970
                 -President’s activity
           -President’s actions
                 -Prospects for 1972
                 -Current
                       -Motorcade
                       -Crowd shots
[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:38 pm and
1:05 pm]

[Conversation No. 464-12C]

     President’s call to Frelinghuysen

[End of telephone conversation]

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:38 pm and
1:05 pm]

[Conversation No. 464-12D]

     Call to Frelinghuysen’s secretary

[End of telephone conversation]

     Frelinghuysen’s support for the President
           -President’s appreciation
           -William P. Rogers
           -W[illiam] Stuart Symington’s comments
     Polls

             -Trends regarding President’s Vietnam policy
                  -Influential events

[The President talked with William T. Kendall between 1:05 pm and 1:06 pm]

[Conversation No. 464-12E]

           -Congressional Record
           -President’s appreciation for support

     Mills

[End of telephone conversation]

     Kendall’s statements to President

     Polls
             -Trends regarding President’s Vietnam policy
                  -Influential events
                        -Approval ratings
             -Gallup poll
             -White House-sponsored poll

     Press credibility
           -Possible White House action
                -Need for public relations efforts
                -Patrick J. Buchanan
                -Ehrlichman
                -Kissinger
                -Connally
                -Buchanan
                -Price
                -William L. Safire
                -Buchanan
                -Leak of plan

     Vietnam
          -Possible White House public relations effort
          -Laos operation (Lam Son)
               -Kissinger’s view
               -General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

                -Tchepone
                      -Approval ratings
                -Melvin R. Laird’s view
          -Chou En-lai
                -Hanoi trip
          -Negotiations in Paris
                -Kissinger’s view
                -Possible Kissinger trip to Paris
                      -Secrecy
                            -President’s view
                -Military action
                -North Vietnam
          -Possible White House public relations effort
                -President’s leadership
          -Laos operation
                -Public comments
                -Kissinger and Haig
                -US accomplishments
          -Military action
          -Rogers
          -Kissinger

     Middle East
         -Forthcoming meeting

     White House staff meeting
          -Connally
          -Kissinger
          -Ehrlichman
          -Kissinger
          -Connally
          -Kissinger

An unknown man [Bull?] entered at an unknown time after 1:06 pm

     Call to Harry S. Dent
           -Possible telephone call

The unknown man [Bull?] left at an unknown time before 1:30 pm

     Public relations efforts

          -Haldeman’s memorandum
          -President’s leadership
                -Kissinger, Ehrlichman, Shultz, Connally
          -President’s view
                -Johnson
          -Meetings with the President
          -Need for more effort
                -Safire’s request of President
          -Connally’s meeting with Haldeman
                -Comments on President

Bull entered at an unknown time after 1:06 pm

     Dent’s schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 1:30 pm

     Public relations
          -Connally
                 -Comments on President
                 -White House staff and Cabinet officers

     Textile trade negotiations with Japan
          -President’s meeting with Peterson
                 -Proposed action
                       -Mills
                       -Connally
                 -Mills’ dealings with Japanese
                 -Peterson’s actions
                 -Mills
                 -Peterson
                 -Peterson and Shultz’s position
                       -Compared with Mills
                       -Dent’s position
                 -Maurice H. Stans’ position
                 -Follow-up meeting between Peterson and Haldeman
          -A proposed letter from the President to Connally
                 -Effects
                 -Alternatives
                 -Peterson
          -Kissinger

             -Peterson
                   -Shultz
                   -Rogers
                   -Stans
             -Donald H. Rumsfeld
                   -Possible job as Special Trade Representative
                        -Loyalty to the President
             -Possible meeting between President and Mills
                   -Bryce N. Harlow and Clark MacGregor
             -Harlow’s role
                   -Mills

     Polls
             -Changes
             -Effect of President’s press conference
             -Effect of stock market
                  -Increases

     Vietnam, Laos
          -Haig
          -Prospects
          -Public statements

     [Unintelligible]

The President and Haldeman left at 1:30 pm