On March 25, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John N. Mitchell, Thomas A. Pappas, Manolo Sanchez, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:55 pm to 4:23 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 473-010 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding AidConversation No. 473-10
Date: March 25, 1971
Time: 3:55 pm - 4:23 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John N. Mitchell and Thomas A. Pappas
President’s schedule
-Previous meeting with James D. Hodgson
Pappas’ schedule
Domestic Intelligence Advisory Board
-Paperwork
Pappas
-Work
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Thomas A. Pappas
-Health
-Eye surgery
-Detached retina
-Compared with Dean G. Acheson
-Boston
-Proctor and Gamble
-Neil H. McElroy
-Fred Lazarus, Jr.
-Friend of Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Federated Department Stores
-James Mitchell
-Ralph Lazarus
-Brother
-Thomas A. Pappas’s acquaintance with Ralph Lazarus
-Boston
-Supporter of the President
-Ralph Lazarus
-Boston
Spiro T. Agnew
-Thomas A. Pappas’s possible talk with John N. Mitchell
-Speech at Middlesex Club
-Fundraising reception
-Edward W. Brooke
-The President’s previous appearance
-1946 or 1947 appearance in Massachusetts
-The President as a congressman
Francis W. Sargent
-Position on Spiro T. Agnew
-Public opinion
-Position on Spiro T. Agnew
-Hugh Scott
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Hugh Scott
-Pappas’ previous conversation
A gift
Scott
-Pappas’ previous conversation
-Support for President
-Supersonic Transport [SST]
John A. Volpe
-Health
SST
-Volpe’s work
SST
-Administration work
National mood
-SST
-Space program
-Defense programs
-Poverty
-President’s upcoming meeting with Congressional Black Caucus
-Program priorities
-Source of revenue
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:55 pm
Refreshments
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[Duration: 42s]
Manolo Sanchez
-Background
Spanish language
Tijuana
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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:23 pm
Support for President
-Pappas’ experiences
-Pappas
-1960 election
-John C. Folger
World leadership
-President’s role
-Era of change
-General Charles A. J. M. de Gaulle
-Konrad Adenauer
-Winston S. Churchill
-Alcide de Gasperi
-King Paul of Greece [Paul I]
-The Vatican
-Pope Pius XII [Eugenio Pacelli]
-Compared with Popes John XXIII [Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli] and
Paul VI [Giovanni Battista Motini]
-Catholic Church
-United States
-American Eastern Establishment
-Harvard University
-Vietnam War
-President’s role
-President’s policy
-Importance to US
-Charles H. Percy
-R. Sargent Shriver
-Edward W. Brooke
-Enemies of US
-Europe
-Public opinion
-President’s forthcoming announcement
-Effect
-US troops
-Withdrawal
-South Vietnam
-Peace talks in Paris
-Henry Cabot Lodge, Dr. David K. E. Bruce
-Effect
-US strategy
-Timing of negotiations
-POWs
-Geneva
National mood
-Effect of World War II
-Compared with French, Germans, and Japanese
-Effect of Korean and Vietnam Wars
-Intellectuals
-Media
-Attitudes toward US role in world
-Aviation
-Space exploration
-Domestic orientation
-Blacks
-Communists
-Britain, France, Japan, US
-Intellectuals
-View of America
-John Kenneth Galbraith
-McGeorge Bundy
Henry E. Ford, II
-Attendance at President’s March 23, 1971 dinner
-Wife
-Work in volunteer efforts
-Relations with Pappas
-Support for John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson
-First wife
-Support for President
-Max M. Fisher
-Contribution
Pappas
-Support for the President
-Meeting with the President
-Pappas’ business
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[Duration: 1m 31s]
ITALY AND THE VATICAN
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Italy
-Henry J. Tasca
-Possible appointment
-Pappas’ view
-Wife
-Greece
-Comments on State Department
-Relations with Pappas [?]
Communists
-Spain, Turkey, Italy
-Pappas’ view
-Greece
-President’s position
-Support for Greece
-Mitchell
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Pappas previous conversation with George Papadopoulos
-Support of Greece
-Tasca
-Pappas’ previous conversation with ConstantinosConv.
Karamanlis
No. 473-18 (cont.)
-Tasca’s role
-Political developments
-Pappas’ assessment
-Martial law
-Tasca
-Status
-King Constantine [Constantine II]
-Health
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Communists
-Greece
-[Constantine, King of the Hellenes] Constantine II
-US position
-Return
-Role
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Communists
-Yugoslavia
-Josip Broz Tito
-Accomplishments
-President’s visit in October, 1970
-Status
-Pappas’ view
-Tito’s planned visit to US
-Timing
-Pappas’ possible attendance at State dinner
Pappas’ work for Mitchell
-Schedule
Yugoslavia
-Monetary situation
-Pappas’ business connections
-Imports and exports
-Steel plant
-Japan, England, Germany, France
Middle East
-A Prime Minister
-Friendship with Pappas
-Tom Pluskey [?]
-Brother
-Soviet Union role
-Israel
-US role
-Soviet Union role
-Pappas’ view
Turkey
-Drug traffic
-Pappas’ role
-President’s position
-New leader
-Program
-Pappas’ view
-Advisors
-Pappas’ view
-Previous conversations with the President
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Turkey
-Possible approach with Greece
-Cyprus
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Possible Meeting of President and Giuseppe Saragat
-Italy
-California
-Previous state visit
-Private visit
-Timing
-California
-Florida
-Alaska
-Circumstances
-Lieutenant General Vernon A. Walters
-Dwight D. Eisenhower Administration role
Folger
-Pappas’ meeting
-Contribution to Common Cause
-John W. Gardner
-Common Cause
Ripon Society
-Shriver
-A party for Charles E. Goodell
-Mitchell’s view
Pappas’ forthcoming work
-President’s appreciation
Gifts
-Cufflinks
-Paperweight
Stephen B. Bull entered at 4:23 pm
The President’s schedule
-Forthcoming meeting with Congressional Black Caucus
[Forename unknown] Wells [?]
President’s support
Mitchell, Pappas, and Bull left at 4:23 pmThis transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.