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Nixon & Bull on W. Clement Stone and Fundraising

Thursday, April 8, 1971 · 4:59 PM–5:13 PM ET · Oval Office · 5 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation475-025 on Tape 475 (tape position 06:18:18–06:23:18)StartThursday, April 8, 1971 at 4:59 PMEndThursday, April 8, 1971 at 5:13 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 475-025 ↗

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President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate upcoming executive scheduling and logistical arrangements. The discussion primarily focused on the itinerary and fundraising presentation for an upcoming dinner with W. Clement Stone, as well as preparations for meetings with economic advisors and government officials. Additionally, they reviewed logistical details for gifts for international dignitaries and clarified the status of certain judicial appointments and administrative personnel.

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This president is not a copy-native.
Not really.
Maybe he's a bit rather extensive.
He's more of a friend, a sovereign, sort of.
Or a goblin, so to speak.
I don't know what you're talking about, Colson.
I don't believe it's in the dinner, sir.
Yeah.
It's been suggested that the financial pitch be made and actually the part doesn't do the appropriate thing.
And as such, the day would just follow the format as shown here.
Then you would include your remarks.
with words to the effect that you have other work that you have to do tonight.
You have a breakfast in the morning meeting with your economic leaders, whether you'd like to serve them to your house or to them for the unique benefits that you can serve.
Rate prices in Oregon have a power of two.
That's right.
Flintstone understands that I'm supposed to lead, and so that you have to lead, and if you've got work to do, you've got this practice meeting and other work.
How do you relate to your official business?
But they were welcome.
And do I brand it?
How do you relate?
Cigars, whatever.
We're in the same time.
Well, why does that stop you then?
Oh, sure, whatever you want, but they will make it after I leave the survey, and I will leave.
I think the point of my argument is that Stone will understand that you have to leave.
And also, I'm trying.
I'm not giving them money to get you on your president.
Well, they can't do it.
Right.
I mean, that's what it is.
What the hell is this?
I'd like to see this woman with a lead in her arms sometime.
Uh, this is Donald Hilliard's, uh, woman.
Lassie Hanks.
Yes, yes.
Lassie Hanks and Lynn Garland.
I'm going to discrimand her again tomorrow.
Worried about tomorrow.
Also, I want George Schultz tomorrow.
Here's the kid with the Prime Minister.
This is what he looks like.
What do you think?
Acknowledged by her?
Are these all the same?
All right.
I have something else that I was hoping for.
By the way, that's fine.
Let's see if we have any decisions.
Tell her that Thomas Murphy, who retired, is not the Thomas Murphy detracted in this case.
All right, that's that.
All right.
because I want to respond to them first.

NARA Description

On April 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:59 pm and 5:13 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 475-025 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 475-25

Date: April 8, 1971
Time: Unknown between 4:59 pm and 5:13 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull

     President’s schedule
          -Charles W. Colson

     Dinner for W. Clement Stone
          -Appeal for money
          -Format
          -President’s remarks
          -Schedule
          -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
          -President’s leaving
          -Appeal for money
          -President’s leaving

     Proclamation
          -Signing

     President’s schedule, April 9, 1971
          -Meeting with Leonard Garment and Nancy Hanks
          -George P. Shultz

     Gift for Prime Minister Sir Keith J. Holyoake and Norma (Ingram)Conv.
                                                                      Holyoake
                                                                           No. 475-26 (cont.)

     Civil Aeronautics Board [CAB]
           -Positions

     Judge Thomas F. Murphy
          -[Alger] Hiss case
          -Phone call
          -Judge Murray I. Gurfein

     Shultz meeting
          -Length

     Meeting with Hanks and Garment
          -Robert H. Finch

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:13 pm

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  • 052-005 4:30 PM · 3 min — a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 4:30 pm and 7:13 pm.
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Conversation 475-025, April 8, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/475-025 (accessed October 12, 2026).