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Conversation: 476-013

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Start Date: 9-Apr-1971 11:05 AM

End Date: 9-Apr-1971 11:38 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Bull, Stephen B.Kennedy, David M.White House photographerHaig, Alexander M., Jr.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:17:54

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:52:25

476-013.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, David M. Kennedy, White House photographer, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:05 am to 11:38 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 476-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 476-13

Date: April 9, 1971
Time: 11:05 am - 11:38 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull and David M. Kennedy; the White House photographer
was present at the beginning of the meeting

     Gift from Kennedy
           -Rock [Micronesian currency]
                 -Weight
           -Photographs
           -Greetings
           -Prop for rock
           -Gift from people of Yap
           -[Micronesian] trust territory [Western Caroline Islands]
                 -Palau [Islands]
           -Origin
                 -Islands
                 -Canoeing
           -Age
           -Photograph for Kennedy and press
           -Display
                 -Museums

General Alexander M. Haig, Jr. entered at 11:06 am

     President’s speech on Southeast Asia, April 7, 1971
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          -Delivery
          -Dinner at F Street Club
               -George H. Mahon
               -Russell B. Long

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:38 am

         -Oliver Oakes [sp?]
         -[Thomas] Hale Boggs
         -John W. Byrnes
         -Wilbur D. Mills
         -John B. Connally
               -Honored
         -Arthur F. Burns
     Kennedy’s trip to Asia
         -Airplane
               -Rest
               -Food
         -Health
         -Bali
               -Ambassador [Francis J. Galbraith]
               -Briefing by ministers
               -Social occasion
               -Indonesians
                     -Finances
         -Hong Kong
               -Harold Lee and Lyndon B. Johnson
               -Chinese people
               -Sir Kenneth Ping-Fan Fung
               -C. Y. Kong [?]
               -David L. Osborn
                     -Vietnam
               -Robert W. Drexler
                     -Briefing regarding People’s Republic of China [PRC]
         -Vietnam
               -Benchmark
               -David Engel
                     -State Department
                     -Benchmark
               -Comparative report
               -Saigon
                     -Condition
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-Mekong Delta
-Surprise
-American press reports
-Hue
     -Destruction
     -Structures
     -Rebuilding
     -Comparison with World War II                Conv. No. 476-13 (cont.)
           -Cologne
           -London
-Mekong Delta
     -Farm areas
-Guided tour
     -Sights
     -Hog, chicken farms
     -Demonstration farm
     -Private enterprise
-Agriculture
-Farmers
     -Hogs, chicken
     -French rubber plantation owners
-Ellsworth F. Bunker
     -Report to President
-General Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
     -Morale problems
-Agency for International Development [AID]
     -Withdrawal
           -Rate
     -Instructions to Haig
     -Dr. John A. Hannah
     -Presence
     -Agriculture
     -Kennedy’s conversation with General Nguyen Van Thieu
           -Vietnamization
           -Economy
           -Congress
                 -Annual review
           -Need for self-reliance
     -Economic Vietnamization
     -Personnel
           -Reduction
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      -Shift in resources
            -Hardware
            -Thieu
            -Morale
            -Funds
-Sir Robert Thompson
      -Kennedy’s conversations with Thompson
      -Optimism                                    Conv. No. 476-13 (cont.)
      -Cambodia and Laos operations
            -Effect on security of South Vietnam
      -Economy
      -Internal security
      -Thieu
            -Cooperation
-Thieu
      -Opposition
      -Nguyen Cao Ky
      -Lieutenant General Duong Van (“Big Minh”) Minh
      -Re-election
      -US position
      -Japanese ambassador’s views
            -Nation building in South Vietnam
      -Vietcong
-Economy
      -Stability in prices
-Economic problems
      -Regulation (“red tape”)
-Customs regulations
-Black market
-Possible solution
      -Single exchange rate
      -Timing
-Thieu
-Bunker
-American community
      -Complaints
-American embassy
-Customs graft
-Licensing corruption
-Thieu and Bunker
      -Administrative changes
-AID
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-American economic advisors
    -Korea
          -Henry J. Tasca
    -Japan
          -Joseph Dodge
          -Indonesia
    -Timing
    -State Department                             Conv. No. 476-13 (cont.)
    -AID
    -Indonesia and South Vietnam
    -Bunker
          -Criticism
    -Charles A. Cooper
    -Instructions to Haig
    -Dodge
          -Japan
    -Tasca
          -Korea
    -Dr. James R. Schlesinger
    -Bunker
    -Department of State
    -Military
    -Dodge
    -Instructions to Kennedy
          -List of names
    -Qualifications
          -Former chief executive officers [CEOs]
    -Bert S. Cross
          -3M [Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing Company]
    -Admiral [William C.?] Mott
    -Cooper
    -Timing
    -Thieu
    -Bunker
          -Possible transfer
    -Indonesia
          -William P. Rogers
          -Marshall Green
          -Unknown technical adviser
          -Government officials
          -Cross
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                              (rev. 9/08)



            -Suitable candidates
                   -Former CEOs
                   -Schlesinger
                   -[Peter G.?] Peterson
            -Business community
                   -Japan
            -Green
-State Department economic staff                             Conv. No. 476-13 (cont.)
      -Political side
      -Deficiency in economics
      -Need for economic experts
      -Attitude towards business
      -Eastern schools
      -View towards private enterprise
      -Woodward [Surname unknown]
      -Memorandum from Philip H. Trezise
            -US trade with Japan
-Briefing
      -Meeting of Council on International Economic Policy [CIEP], April 8, 1971
      -Peterson
            -Knowledge of Japan
      -Instructions for Haig
            -Future briefing for White House staff National Security Council [NSC],
                   Domestic Council staff, Council of Economic Advisers [CEA],
                   Office of Management and Budget [OMB] Staff
            -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Vietnam
      -American economic agencies
            -Cooper’s idea for post-election meeting
                   -Kennedy’s view
            -Possible administration position
                   -Need for single exchange rate
            -Timing
            -State Department
            -Defense Department
-Thailand
      -King Bhumibol Adulyadej and Queen Sirikit Kitiyakara
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 43s ]


    THAILAND                                                       Conv. No. 476-13 (cont.)


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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              -Press reports
                    -Allegations of US dumping rice on Indonesia
                    -Effect on Thai economy
                           -Deflation
                    -Meeting with Cabinet
                    -State Department
                           -Aid
         -Indonesia
         -Cambodia
         -Indonesia
              -Lieutenant General T. N. J. Suharto
              -Military aid
              -Political situation
              -Kennedy’s conversation with Suharto
                    -Need for military aid
              -Visit by US team
              -Green
              -Rogers
              -Green
                    -Possible reassignment
                    -Japan
              -Embassy staff
                    -Lenora (Bingham) Kennedy
                    -Galbraith
         -Micronesian islands
              -Independence
              -Mariana Islands
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 9/08)



                 -Caroline Islands
                 -Marshall Islands
                 -U. Alexis Johnson
                 -Saipan
                 -Peace Corps
                      -Joseph H. Blatchford
                      -Reduction
                      -Congo                                         Conv. No. 476-13 (cont.)
                      -Value
                 -Rogers C. B. Morton
                 -Peace Corps
                      -Morton
                      -Haig’s forthcoming report
                      -Reduction
                      -Possible changes
                      -Value
                      -Composition
                            -Protestors
                      -Kennedy’s possible conversation with Morton
                      -Mariana Islands

Kennedy and Haig left at 11:38 am