Conversation 481-003

TapeTape 481StartSaturday, April 17, 1971 at 8:56 AMEndSaturday, April 17, 1971 at 9:13 AMTape start time00:03:08Tape end time00:16:59ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Butterfield, Alexander P.;  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Recording deviceOval Office

On April 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:56 am to 9:13 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 481-003 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 481-3

Date: April 17, 1971
Time: 8:56 am - 9:13 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 39s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1                                            Conv. No. 481-3 (cont.)

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H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 8:58 am

     The President's meeting with the American Society of Newspaper Editors [ASNE], April
          16, 1971
          -Television
          -Questions to the President
                -Vietnam
                -Lieutenant William L. Calley, Jr.
                -People's Republic of China [PRC]
                -Vietnam and Calley
                -Compared with the President's press conference

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 9:10 am

                 -Opening question
                       -Suggested response
           -President's responses
           -Radio reception
                 -John N. Mitchell's call to the President
                       -Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo
                       -J. Edgar Hoover
                 -President's responses to questions
                       -Hoover
                       -Calley
                       -Prisoner of War [POW] issue
                       -Vietnam
                             -Emmett Dedmon
                             -Withdrawal
                             -Residual forces
                                  -Melvin R. Laird
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                -Withdrawal
                     -Timing
                          -Election date
                -Communist takeover issue
-Radio audience
     -Numbers
     -Television broadcast
-Questions                                          Conv. No. 481-3 (cont.)
     -Calley
     -Vietnam
     -PRC
     -Cuba
     -Hoover
            -Surveillance
     -Youth
            -Otis Chandler
            -Al Capp
     -Surveillance
            -Police state
            -John F. Kennedy administration
                  -Robert F. (“Bobby”) Kennedy
     -Hoover
     -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
     -Frank Cormier
     -"Making news"
     -Unknown quip
     -Economic indicators
            -Retail sales
     -Television
-Rostrum
     -Use
     -Naked microphone
     -J. F. Kennedy
     -President's style
     -J. F. Kennedy's style
            -Use of notes
-Naked microphone
     -Use
-Questions
     -Number
     -Length
     -President's answers
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                 -[Dwight] David, II and Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                      -Easter discussion
                      -Possible visit to the PRC
                      -Personalizing answers
                 -PRC
                      -Ping-pong
                      -Henry A. Kissinger
                                                                       Conv. No. 481-3 (cont.)
     Haldeman's forthcoming meeting with Kissinger and John A. Scali
          -President's possible presence
          -Kissinger and Scali
                -Relationship
                      -Frequency of meetings
                -PRC
          -Scali
                -Access to President
                -Ronald L. Ziegler
                -Briefing
                -Role

Bull entered at 9:10 am

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with George P. Shultz

     Peter G. Peterson's memorandum to the President
           -Approval

Bull left at 9:12 am

     Vietnam
          -Withdrawal
               -Kissinger's views
               -Scali

     The President's schedule
          -Forthcoming welcome to First Marine Division at Camp Pendleton, California, April
               30, 1971

     Vietnam
          -Possible statement by President
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                -Withdrawal
                -Ping-pong team

     Haldeman's forthcoming conversation with Kissinger and Scali
     President's schedule
          -Meetings
          -President, Haldeman, Kissinger and Scali
                                                                     Conv. No. 481-3 (cont.)
Haldeman left at 9:13 am

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

I'm going to score another regular last night, I think.
Take your positions.
And the key to the question is this, is to put the China question, to give you a chance to put the China question in perspective.
You sure as hell got Uber cleared up and surveillance and all that?
Well, people didn't have to.
I was able to put in a contract.
I thought that was stupid of this channel to do this question.
Well, they all have.
But you think that's independent?
But then you got to be able to say, if you look here, I want,
Well, you said another people picked that up.
I hope.
I haven't done any work on it or anything else.
I'm glad to use the roster.
Let's just start with a bit more about what they had to do.
The type of reason is that
I don't think anybody's gonna say that.
Sunshine, please, die.
And then,
by the end of November.