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Nixon, Shultz & Peterson on International Trade and Personnel Appointments

Saturday, April 17, 1971 · 9:15 AM–9:34 AM ET · Oval Office · 18 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Shultz, George P.; Peterson, Peter G.Conversation481-004 on Tape 481 (tape position 00:16:59–00:35:06)StartSaturday, April 17, 1971 at 9:15 AMEndSaturday, April 17, 1971 at 9:34 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 481-004 ↗

President Nixon met with George Shultz and Peter Peterson to discuss personnel appointments and pressing foreign economic policy, specifically regarding trade negotiations with Japan and Southeast Asia. The group deliberated on the roles of various cabinet members, including David Kennedy and William Rogers, in coordinating trade strategy and managing the State Department's economic responsibilities. They also explored broader themes of U.S. economic competitiveness, the People's Republic of China initiative, and the necessity of preventing American isolationism in the post-Vietnam War era.

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We'll be right back after this.
There you go.
That was born in 1932.
Another rather similar...
the industry is creating, and we're supposed to create
Raise him.
of some meeting in here.
We don't even answer.

On April 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, and Peter G. Peterson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:15 am to 9:34 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 481-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 481-004

Date: April 17 1971
Time: 9:15 am - 9:34 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with George P. Shultz

     Dr. James R. Schlesinger
           -Departure [from Office of Management and Budget]
           -Department of Interior

     Kenneth W. Dam
         -Placement
         -Evaluation
         -William P. Rogers
         -Talent
               -Finish in law school class [University of Chicago]

     Elliot L. Richardson
            -Qualifications
            -Harvard Law School

     Welsh
          -University of Chicago
          -Abilities
          -Writings
          -”The Pricing of North Sea Gas in Britain”
          -Anti-trust
          -Common Market problem
          -Languages
          -Abilities
          -Placement
          -Peter G. Peterson
          -International economics
          -Schlesinger
          -Possible role
          -Abilities

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

             -Age

             -Shultz's schedule

Peterson entered at 9:20 am

     Upcoming meeting
         -Agenda
              -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                   US relations with Taiwan

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[Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number
LPRN-T-MDR-2014-023. Segment declassified on 04/24/2019. Archivist: MAS]
[National Security]
[481-004-w001]
[Duration: 58s]

       Oil
                -Canadian negotiations
                       -Pipeline
                               -Lack of progress
                       -US position and a more forceful negotiating approach
                       -Department of State [DOS]
                               -U. Alexis Johnson

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     Oil
             -People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
                  -US relations with Taiwan

     Textile Negotiations
           -Forthcoming meeting prior to David M. Kennedy’s trip
                 -Objectives
                 -Strategy

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

                 -State Department
                       -Shultz
                       -Textile industry
                       -Negotiations
                             -Evaluation
                       -US position
                       -Trade
                             -Strategy
                             -Southeast Asia
                             -Negotiating problems
                             -Kennedy
                       -Need for instructions
                             -Effect on negotiations
                 -Peterson's meeting with General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                       -Negotiating strategy
                 -Trade inducements
                 -Instructions for Kennedy
                 -Trade inducements
                 -Kennedy's schedule
                       -Trip to Asia
                             -Philippines
                 -Discussions of inducements
                 -Attendees
                       -John B. Connally
                       -U. Alexis Johnson
                       -Peter M. Flanigan
                       -Maurice H. Stans
                       -Haig
                       -Melvin R. Laird
                       -Haig
                             -Defense Department
                       -Stans
                       -Kennedy
                             -Message to State Department
                             -Role
                             -Trip to Asia
                             -Schedule
                             -Attitude toward assignment
                 -Peterson's conversation with Johnson

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

                      -Henry A. Kissinger
                 -Attendees
                      -Kissinger
                      -Haig
                      -Kissinger
                            -Defense Department
                            -Laird

           -Location
                -Oval Office
                -Cabinet Room
           -Schedule
           -President's conversation with Kissinger

     US economic leadership in post-Vietnam War era
          -”Peaceful competition” theme
          -PRC
          -Competitiveness
          -Leadership
               -Consequences
          -Purposes
          -US position
          -American spirit
          -Competition
               -Supersonic Transport [SST]
               -Steel
                     -Exports
                           -Share of market
                                -Compared with 1940-1950
                                -Japan
          -Possible consequences of failure
               -Isolationism
               -Protectionism
          -Leadership
          -Foreign policy
               -National defense
          -Economics

     State Department

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

            -Organization of foreign economic policy
                 -Possible effect on negotiations
                        -Possible White house involvement
                 -Responsibilities
                 -Shultz
                 -Need to build strength
                 -Negotiations
                        -Canada
                        -Japan
                 -Commercial attaches
                        -Stans
                 -Spirit
                 -Rogers
                        -Responsibilities
                              -State Department effectiveness in economic field
                              -Oil negotiations
                        -Possible conversation with Peterson and Shultz

The President, Peterson and Shultz left at 9:34 am
  • 001-121 8:54 AM · 2 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:54 am and 8:56 am.
  • 481-001 8:54 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:54 am and 8:56 am.
  • 001-122 8:56 AM · 42 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and William M. Lukash talked on the telephone from 8:56 am to 8:57 am.
  • 481-002 8:56 AM · 41 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and William M. Lukash met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:56 am to 8:57 am.
  • 481-003 8:56 AM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:56 am to 9:13 am.
  • 053-002 9:34 AM · 1 hr 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Peter G. Peterson, George P. Shultz, John B. Connally, Maurice H. Stans, David M. Kennedy, Henry A. Kissinger, Peter M. Flanigan, and U. Alexis Johnson met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 9:34 am and 10:45 am.
  • 481-009 9:34 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:34 am to 3:30 pm.
  • 001-123 10:45 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, White House operator, J. Edgar Hoover, and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 10:45 am to 10:52 am.

Conversation 481-004, April 17, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/481-004 (accessed October 12, 2026).