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Start Date: 20-Apr-1971 3:06 PM

End Date: 20-Apr-1971 3:34 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Shultz, George P.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:43:54

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:10:25

483-016.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:06 pm to 3:34 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 483-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 483-16

Date: April 20, 1971
Time: 3:06 pm - 3:34 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with George P. Shultz.

     Schedule
          -John B. Connally

     Removal of Donald E. McLarnan
         -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
         -Republican
         -Competence
         -Replacement
         -Career status
         -Possible appeal
         -Ronald W. Reagan
         -Loyalty
               -Charles W. Yost
         -Vita
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Privacy]
[Duration: 40s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1                                               Conv. No. 483-16 (cont.)

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         -Acquaintance of President
         -Competence

    Social Security taxes
         -Issue
         -Budget
               -Wage base
         -Social Security bill
               -Wage base
               -Date
         -Increase in wage base
               -President’s statemnet on signing bill increasing social security benefits, March
                     17, 1971
               -Impact
               -Maximum
               -Deduction
         -H.R. 1
         -Alternatives
         -Committee's intent
         -Alternatives
               -Raise of wage base
                     -Impact
                     -1972 budget
                     -Revenue
               -Further increase of wage base
                     -Impact
                     -Tax deductions
                     -Income
         -Problem
         -Opinions
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           -Herbert Stein
           -Murray L. Weidenbaum
           -Shultz
           -Connally
           -Paul W. McCracken
           -Connally
                 -Inflation
           -Budget                                        Conv. No. 483-16 (cont.)
           -Stein
           -McCracken
     -Shultz's conversation with Arthur F. Burns
           -Budget deficits
           -Wage-price board
           -Fiscal stimulus
           -Monetary policy
                 -Tight
           -Economy
     -Economy
           -Consumer confidence
     -Possible administration policy
           -Social Security bill
     -President's position
           -Burns
           -Expanding economy versus fighting inflation

Budget
    -Fiscal Year [FY] l972/1973
    -Deficit

Economy
    -Prospects
    -Federal Reserve Board [FRB] policy
          -Burns
    -Dollar
    -Administration's policy
    -Inflation

Meetings
     -Administration's position
     -Wage and Means Committee
     -FY 1973
     -Revenue
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     -Congress

Shultz's upcoming talk at Chicago Economic Club, April 22, 1971
     -President's possible comments
     -Black tie
     -Schedule
     -Economic conditions
           -Slow down                                           Conv. No. 483-16 (cont.)
           -Future perspective
           -Compared with 1954, 1958
           -Recession
           -Pessimism
     -Stock market
     -Youth
           -Lack of interest in materialism
           -Avant-garde
           -Materialism
                 -Cars
                 -Radios
                 -Liberals
     -Unemployment
     -Wages
           -Autos
     -Steel negotiations
           -Administration's possible position
           -Prospects
           -Price increases
                 -Impact on US economy
     -Steel industry
           -Importance
           -Watershed
           -Dangers
           -Administration's concern
           -Productivity
           -Wage increase
           -United Steelworker of America [USWA]
                 -Clint Hildon [sp?] and Joe Scammon
                 -Rhetoric
     -Speech
     -Trade
     -US representatives abroad
           -Economic personnel
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                -American private enterprise
          -President's travels abroad
                -Peter G. Peterson
                -Council on International Economic Policy [CIEP]
          -US economic representatives abroad
                -Compared with other countries
                -Quality
                -US business abroad                                Conv. No. 483-16 (cont.)

     Economy
         -Wall Street
         -Confidence

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:06 pm.

     President’s schedule
          -Unknown apointment

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:34 pm.

          -View from Washington/New York
                -Tone of rhetoric
          -Consumer psychology
                -Change
                -Improvement
          -Budget
          -Monetary policy
          -Football analogy
          -Administration policy
          -President's meeting with US Jaycees

Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:06 pm.

     President’s schedule
          -Meeting with Clifford M. Hardin

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:34 pm.

     Shultz's upcoming talk at Chicago economic club
          -Unemployment
          -Economy
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Bull entered at 3:34 pm.

      Schedule
             -Press corps
Bull left at 3:34 pm.

      Shultz's upcoming talk at Chicago economic club
           -Unemployment                                             Conv. No. 483-16 (cont.)
           -Raymond K. Price, Jr.

Shultz left at 3:34 pm.