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Yeah.

Go ahead.

Yes, I mean, he urged me to do that.

It's bad.

But I will.

He says it.

He says he can't.

to even see if I could get anything over them.

At this point, I'll get in touch.

What is the, how do you say, log on?

I can't state this one.

If I didn't ask.

See, I brushed them on.

They came at me with a demonstration.

That's the next question.

Yeah.

I'm going to get them to move.

That's the next question.

Come on in.

I was sort of getting back to you about these fields.

And I said, fine, if you've got those, I've got to deal with them.

The price increased.

Okay, Mark.

I don't guess you can believe me about it, but the Danish Steel Company is non-competitive.

The industry is non-competitive, and here they are.

Of course, I guess they're anticipating their settlement, aren't they?

I'm sure they are.

Well, I can refer to your remarks that you made.

I don't attempt them anywhere.

I said, here it is.

We were down 50% of the world market 20 years ago.

We're down to 20%.

Right.

And we have wage and price decisions which do not reflect the competitive situation of the world or not in the national interest, not in the nation's field.

I don't make up volunteers unless I'm asked.

What do you, what is your judgment?

If I walk out a volunteer... Volunteer?

I'm not a volunteer.

If they don't ask me, then I won't volunteer.

No, I think they've got to ask you.

I think frankly that we should.

But a lot of people are cold about this.

He's a banker in a sense, but in another sense, he's a pretty wise thought.

He said, well, that's the thing we have to watch about this.

This folks, a lot of folks, folks in my shop and folks in your shop, won't talk about this.

A lot of people, they won't be struggling with this for years.

Maybe it's good, maybe it isn't.

And I'm not sure as to why that's there.

So he's got very good things that are fixed and apparently labeled.

They're all curses.

But I don't think that, frankly, we're in that bad shape yet.

What happened?

Well, the Germans closed their banks against the dollar.

So did the Dutch.

So did the Swiss.

So the Germans took in, if you will take this, if you have this with you, the Germans took in a billion dollars in the first 50 minutes.

Closed their banks.

They stopped crossing ahead of their separate bank.

But if we want to do that, I think it's probably the last thing to do.

Yes.

Yes, Senator, but we're going to have to keep those dollars.

If they get them, they're going to turn to us.

And Austria, I mean, close there, sort of the Dutch, sort of the Belgian.

which I think is all right.

Now, the Germans, according to a conversation Paul had with his counterpart and a conversation that Burns had with Clausen, they're wild.

They don't know what they're going to do.

They're going to go to Brussels and meet with the European common market countries, and they're probably not going to make it to Syria before Saturday or Sunday.

There's a big split in the German government as to what they want to do.

Well, they ought to rename the president.

They ought to have a range in which 5% of them are down.

It's the status quo.

And they also want to put some restrictions on the ability of the German businessmen to borrow the euro dollars outside of Germany and bring them into Germany.

They want to pass a law to have that kind of restriction so they can get into it.

to get into some control but he's not failing the most because if we do that and that's what the one or two other suggestions

It's a very great state in our ranks.

It's a very open question.

Y'all seem strongly about it.

I call up Mr. Schiller, who will be probably the first to vote in the race.

Do we have a position?

We just don't know what we want.

I think what they're talking about, we're meeting them now.

I personally don't think we'll ever do anything but to encourage and to disclose it.

I don't think it's going to make all that much difference.

Our stock market went up about 1.9%.

I don't believe in the dollar.

It's these tipsy little countries putting us around it.

And also, I just don't believe we've got to make a lot of damn decisions here that have to do with destroying our own economy in order to stay for the dollar or all the hell of it.

We can't.

That's why the interest rate thing, I think you should understand, and this will determine my ending.

I don't know anything about it, but the interest rate's on me.

And the idea of the fiscal policy, monetary policy, and the rest of the idea that we're going to

squeeze everything here in order to save you a dollar.

How about that?

Well, I'm going to keep the economy going.

That's right.

I'm going to keep the economy going.

all of the countries around New York income market.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I said.

Out and around, out and around.

And I said, we don't want to put that in there.

I said, we'd cause a damn problem.

And I said, we're just trying to do three things.

We're trying to so that we can get this unemployment rate down to 6%.

And I said, we're trying to put the inflation.

We've got our economy .

At the very time we were doing this, y'all were there to beg about it.

I didn't use that expression, but I said, matter of fact, about the dollar.

That's right.

I said about the dollar.

And I said, frankly, we haven't been there.

We're going to sit.

I said, if Germany wants a flexible rate, they're going to have one.

They're going to devalue, revaluate, because that's their business.

They're a sovereign country.

But I said, frankly, we're going to hold very still and very firmly.

And I've said that in a jocular way.

They came to it to begin with and wanted to make some reference to the pillars in the trailer being painted gold.

They didn't know if that was a good old thing or not.

I said, it's very good.

I said, those pillars are old, they're stable, they're unchanging.

And I said, that's just the way I go about things.

I said, it's stout and unchanging.

I think really it gets down to a tough one.

It was such a huge decision.

They told me they'd come.

I said, no, I'm here.

I said, I don't know who's going to handle it.

I said, I don't know.

He's just like me.

I said, neither of us are an expert on these people, but it's a political decision, Patrick.

So you make the decision.

I'm going to have a little competition, but you have to be accountable for the competition.

the decision must be made with regard to

I don't think it's going to close.

You don't?

No, sir, I don't.

We've lived through this.

He's got a little experience.

the backstage, which I think is good.

But I think we might, I might want to call the show.

And you don't know, you haven't given a trip over there yet, have you?

I don't know.

Well, I'm supposed to go.

I'm far away.

I don't want to have to keep you coming.

Well, that's fine.

But I can't.

Yeah, that'd be a good time.

They ought to all know you, but now you see them in and out, and things are moving pretty well.

And, uh, and, uh, as you know, you can just think of a hell of a way to praise the Lord.

It's a German book.

Yeah.

And all they're talking about, well, this is, uh, this is part of what I'm trying to do.

Right.

Willie Bernstein, I don't know.

Right.

What he's doing, he is advising a monetary system that's for Germany's markets.

He's basically, uh, he's, he's, uh,

He's putting all this ad money in the social program, even at the present time.

He ought to be cutting back on some of it.

And he's got a children's inflation fund.

So what he's trying to do is protect against inflation.

So he's devising a monetary policy that says he is to take the taxes and the press accounts and that.

Not bad, wouldn't he?

That's my idea.

But I just don't think at this moment we ought to move.

I don't think we ought to move.

The movement absolutely at this point would be nothing except maybe buy another a billion and a half, two billion dollars, a lot of bureau dollars, that's all.

Or give them a second issue of some kind.

We'd probably pay the higher interest rate that we can get it here by a little bit or something of that kind.

But it's not a major change of policy.

I think one of the things that's important is that

You can see it in the action people are in.

Now, folks here, let's stop this nonsense that this is our fault.

This is the weakness of the dollar.

We can put ourselves through a record right now that we have a downturn of 70 because we were putting ourselves in a good shape.

That's exactly what he said.

Now, what the hell are they talking about?

$1,700 for a hundred, $30,000 for a hundred, that's exactly what I told Alex today.

I said, well, this is an administration team, and they recognized that they had a problem, and they were causing you all problems, and they took a bitter pill.

You guys are talking about the highest money in the highest situation, a hundred years, and I heard that.

Why don't you tell me that whole thing?

I don't know.

And I said, now, every time we pull it out, we've got a rate of inflation that's less than 3% on an annualized basis when we do have an economy moving.

So I hope it reduces the cost.

I said, then we've got some problems.

What's your argument?

And he said, I don't think they're about to float.

And he said, I don't think, he said, I think you ought to sit tight.

And I said, that's precisely what we're going to do.

Did you go after this?

No, we just, we just, I saw him.

And I saw him out there.

And, um,

But I just want to ask you, this may be your call to action.

Well, it doesn't.

The action should be you and I talking about it.

Now, as I say, if you want to, if you want to, you can have time.

We have a big time.

I can have Henry, who is the board policy director.

I don't have too many.

And now we're playing another game that's going to be the first of the game and it's going to be the last time I discuss with these other people.

We are holding a trip to Russia from now on.

We've got a big deal going on here right now.

And the Russians may agree to a break from assault talks if we handle their approach.

I, therefore,

want us to be in the position that we can deliver.

And if they come through with their side on assault numbers, they may agree to limit their offensive weapons by higher grades on APM, which, of course, is exactly what we want all along.

If we can make that kind of a break, we want to be able to deliver on prevention, which, of course, is something Grant wants also.

So I would hate to forget patrol tech.

That bargaining position now, we'll know in a couple of weeks whether that's a viable thing or not.

It's very possible now.

But if I tell, in order to screw around with the balance of payments to state of the journey, so here we're not going to play your game, we're going to...

and then lose our deal with the Russians.

You see my point?

It's safe to do that.

I don't want to get into it, but the other thing that you will find is you're able to come in and say, well, my point, we had this sitting before.

They wanted me to call you.

But I think it's fine for you to get in and deal with that issue alone.

But I think we should keep the two issues separate.

They'll know.

But I think if you would tell the state that they don't want to do it, then they may resist.

And I look as far as we have too many difficult decisions to make.

If you were facing your next term,

Uh, you're going to have to face it really before you know it.

Uh, next month.

Next week.

You're going to have to decide what you're going to do.

You can have a discharge in the 19th century.

And you can't have one you've got today.

You're going to have to make some very basic decisions with the industry, with respect to this whole thing we're talking about.

What we're going to do is... What we're going to do is... What we're going to do is...

It's like this Japanese thing, and he told me that he'd talk to you.

He has to tell you a truth.

Yesterday, I got a line, and then he said, I can't believe you have to play.

But that involves something else.

That involves getting it back to the state.

It involves a hell of a lot stronger ambassador than you can.

But we're not quite ready to...

By the way, if you're ready to denigrate us, we've got a protection here to keep you ready.

But we're not hurt.

We're doing our own job.

We know what we want.

We already know that we own what we want to produce.

But all we know is that we do best in parties.

That's not a damn thing to do in America anymore.

It doesn't do us any good.

Isn't that true?

Look out there.

That's right.

Isn't that something?

It's a fantastic thing.

There's only one other thing we need to know.

There's certain basic things we have to have.

We have to have a basic feeling.

We have to have a basic thought.

And my view is, in an aircraft, anything that's necessary, we've got to protect it.

Period.

One way or another.

Now, there's, uh... Oh, the other thing I wanted to say, Mr. Chairman.

Did you make the announcement today on the... No, sir.

We're going to do it tomorrow if we're ready.

There's still one or two things to happen.

Oh, go for it.

Here's a chance.

Go, Jim.

All right.

I said, when I made the announcement, I would say this might be a good idea for the president.

Oh, yes.

That's the improvement.

Trust me.

You could say that you were – if you recommended it, the president has approval.

I believe it's a great support from the president.

All right.

One of the – one or two – the little things that we need to – I mean, the first thing is we –

Before history, I need to listen and talk.

I need to see two or three other people.

We need to touch some more bases on the hill.

We need to get our support lined up.

What we want to do on that bill is we want to have a majority in both houses.

All the committee is sponsored.

We want to be damn sure we can come out of those committees.

I have a feeling we're in good shape of the bill now.

I don't want to lose that time.

I think we're going to borrow it.

We might have a moment today, but frankly, I don't have any time to spend.

I don't know if it's all right to find the virus.

I don't know if we can talk about it.

I want you to make the answer.

The other thing is, it's ridiculous.

This is a capital deal.

It's out of my charge, actually.

Basically, it's a silly part to tell a long time ago.

I don't know how to do a party like that.

I told Ron that I'd give him a running run.

I'd give him a head start.

So he'd call us and just kind of do it.

It would be well for you to make this here or over at the station.

I wish you the best.

In other words, you could come in if you wanted.

If you thought this was the best place, you could come in and discuss it and go out here and make an announcement here.

Or you could make it to the Treasury.

I don't know.

I don't know what you think about it.

I'm glad we heard from you.

You talked about it.

We heard a lot from you.

I just assumed I'd be able to correct you, but I kind of just...

It might have more...

It obviously had more impact over here now.

You have a...

They know what you're talking about.

And you have greater coverage.

It would indicate that just on your own customers.

So no question about that for your impact.

There's a very interesting thing that made it all here.

It's almost hard to believe, but just before you continue, we got Jerry Ford and us there.

Remember your little conversation we had with the team?

We got also with Mitchell and the leadership back in December.

There we go.

They're going to work on various people.

John will take a little time, but we think they agree that it has to be done.

As a matter of fact, there is a lesser interest on it.

Bill Callner is in the scene today.

He says the poor opposition is just so-and-so, doesn't know what to do, can't think of his mind.

He says he's in a hell of a shit, indecisive and all that.

Curiously.

too well either, but nevertheless, the chariots are really ready to go, and they've got to keep it going wherever they're going.

For me, the key guys are all the time from the burbs, and the green tea, and the wagon, and the middle column, and there's just a few they can talk to in the beginning.

But I think there's some development here that you should be aware of.

Nothing to the extent that I'm checking it out in character, but the strategy, I can see what it is.

But the appropriations bill has been sorted out.

It has $80,000,000 in determination costs for the SSU.

We're bored.

This time we should work it out in Massachusetts.

And then, which will be Jermaine.

And Andrew will be doing these, or this.

He has a chance to switch it up and carry it in the house.

Well now, it's nice and quiet.

The point is, that the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

I think if they win it, even though they go back to the center and lose it, it's a hell of a good deal.

What do you think?

No question.

So I get to go ahead and now this is a...

It must be having a fight.

I would mean, I think this is probably one of my potentials.

I don't want to appear to be unavailable.

Nor, well, maybe there has to be a reason.

As certain players realize that if they can pull this off, if Jerry can get them to sustain their social life goals, if they can get that to happen,

And then we could put the heat down on Johnny.

Yeah.

Those, uh, I mean, that's on the basis of... Oh, yeah, we got them on.

These were supposed to do the same thing.

And we're all going to need to do it.

Not because of us.

Yeah.

I don't see why we need to do it.

Come on in.

I understand you're... Well, our discussion is too diffuse, and we don't have anything to bring to you that's worth your...

Yeah.

I mean, we have to say to you, Mr. President, we have A, B, and C, and we need your guidance on it.

I think we... All right.

John can bring you up to date on PTA's developments.

And, uh, we...

Hold on.

Is this how you say it is?

Look, this is a very complicated issue.

I don't know anything about it.

But I do know that, as far as the future is concerned,

I do not buy the idea that dollars are weak.

I do not buy the idea that we should sacrifice our domestic economy for international liquidity or whatever they are concerned about.

And therefore, I want all of these things to lean in favor of, as John says, sitting tight and let these guys do what they want now.

So if they think the market's going to go down 300 points and all that sort of thing, I don't believe that's true.

My point is, George, I feel that all these conventional crises, there's a tendency for everybody around to get who is so deeply involved in them.

Right now, our major job is to keep this economy going.

Right?

And so that's the way.

And so what I would like to do is to lead...

John, he has the politics, and he's got experts over there.

And if he decides on political reasons that this is the way it ought to go, that's where he's going to go, I'll listen to the arguments, of course.

But, you know, it's like other things.

You come in on a recommendation as to what we do on some domestic program.

I'm not going to get myself involved in it if I can avoid it.

I'm listening.

I think if there's something more to eat, we'll move.

On any major move here, it is so important that we shouldn't do it without your approval.

I agree with all of them.

I understand.

There are possible things that we could get faced with.

If there is a demand for gold,

of any proportions that can't be turned off, then that faces us with a decision about whether to close the gold window, as you're about to say, or not.

And that's a big, big thing.

And we should, I believe we should be positioned so that we know what we are likely to want to do.

before we get hit with some crisis, so then we can come back and push it over with you, but then we are at this.

And I thought we might be a little further along and have some things to present, but I think the meeting is too diffuse, and Arthur is sort of dominating it anyway.

And I don't think it's, we're not getting to the meat of what we

I don't feel that we should be taking that gear down, but anyway, it's too big a group.

Yeah, but you don't want to talk about these things, and I don't know nothing about it.

It's too big a group.

We have to do it.

All right.

Let's leave it this way.

Let the conversation go on.

Let's see what the options are.

and not so much the option of what are our contingency plans, if they do this or that, what do we do?

Do they need any more calls or anything like that?

Do they suggest that John calls or anything like that?

I believe myself today that there's sort of what do they want to do and what do we want them to do to a degree.

That's a set of things.

Yes.

But from our standpoint,

The question is, what should we do?

And I believe the outcome of our discussion this morning is we should sit here, reassure our domestic economy to the extent that's necessary for the stock market performance to suggest that it doesn't need all that much reassurance, and sort of take the attitude of, well, you people over there have your problems.

The majority here looks much higher than ours.

If we are faced with some of these decisions about gold, we'll have to face up to that.

Have the same reaction that you do, as you can see from the meeting yesterday, that you can, that no, a basic law is no crisis is as much as it's made out to be.

But on the other hand,

So on the right, on the right, we made the explosiveness of this, uh, of this thing to get, to get to John's hand.

What about this idea of having somebody run over your, uh... Well, uh, here's the one thing, the one thing I told John.

We've got the car, we can plug it in, and if, if it's a search, we can plug it in.

We can put the streets with the Germans.

If you do anything, if you want, you want them to do something.

We can tell him to do it because much of the brand wants to help his domestic economy.

He's got to have the broad entry.

And he can't get it unless we'll play the game.

Now, at the present time, our interests will best be served.

The reasons I won't go into with anybody.

Our interests will best be served by playing the brand's game.

That has nothing to do with him.

That is somebody else.

But on the other hand,

If this thing is so, you see, that's why this thing is so important.

We've got to get the Germans to do something.

We can turn them on the road.

And one call will do it.

Because I'm just going to put a pair of five comments to work for it.

But I would hesitate to do it unless...

But you've got to tell us that you want the Germans to do something.

It means that much.

It means a great deal.

We can do anything.

I'm not actually sure.

I don't know.

I'm not sure.

I agree.

All right.

Now, what they're proposing is that they don't pay that price at $3.63 per dollar.

And if we're getting on that, well, then 1% of that on their central bank has to start buying dollars to support that price at $3.63 to a dollar.

Now, what they're now saying is that, well, let's let that $3.63 to a dollar float up 5%.

So it could go back to $363 from the 18 points.

So it could go up to $380 from there, $380 to an hour without any problems.

Or it could come down to $355 to an hour.

It would have a range in which it could move the currency, the exchange rate.

It's like a pencil to the dollar.

It's been 12 to 1.

But if it gets stronger, they reduce it to 8 to 1.

That's the same thing we're talking about here.

It's up to 3.6 to 1.

Well, that's what we're talking about flow.

And they now talk about 5% flow.

It's a long-term list.

as some international monetary economies, who want to have a flexible rate.

All countries have a flexible rate, so they fire around these things.

And at this point, even if they get 100%, it doesn't even hurt so much.

It is not getting any spending money.

Great Britain's not.

Great Britain's got about $60 million.

They won't go over it.

I think the point here is that on the whole, the Germans and other countries don't want to revalue upwards.

Why?

Because that makes the price of everything in their country more expensive from the standpoint of the United States and makes the price of things in the United States less expensive from the standpoint of their people.

So it tends to stimulate our exports and to dample up our imports.

Well, from our standpoint, if they get forced into that, that's fine.

That helps our economy.

Our situation.

This is why I don't think they're going to close.

If they do, they're not going to close much, and they're not going to close long.

They're going to get that parity back down because they're worried about their export markets, and that's what they're trying to protect.

And we've got a CIA report today, supposedly from their German meetings, in which they say, in effect, hell, we're going to have to hire Germany.

We've looked at it.

That's all they're calling us.

I think we're done.

These meetings are the same eye to eye as we, following your point, that we have to look after our interests.

And their interests are fine, but that's for them to look after.

And if we have some sort of a negotiation, which we shouldn't be too anxious to rush into, but if we know where we want to come out and we should have

monetary arrangements, but there are always other aspects to the situation that we should have in mind, just as in the textile negotiations.

We're hoping to get somewhere by a broader type of approach.

Why don't you let the meeting go on?

I think also you have to figure out a way to have a larger meeting and not have such a big meeting in here.

Even though everybody that's in here is great, you get eight people.

Why don't I go back and sit with him a minute?

Yeah, all right.

I think they asked us, did you know about your decision to go to the city?

They didn't talk about it.

Which is true, you were talking about the way it was promoted to Lockheed, but no one knew.

Yeah, I had to make a decision.

I mean, I told you enough that we have to announce the Lockheed thing, that we have to announce the Martin thing.

They were working on it.

Yes, they were working on it.

Thank you.

We're not seeing you tomorrow, sir.

Uh, we'll be back now.

Right.

80 seconds.

Thank you.

Yes, sir.

All right, George, good luck.

Well, I don't know what he finished talking about.

I don't think he cares about us in the city.

That is, uh, that's like if he wanted to.

It'll be in a big box, and I'm going to stay in there for about two weeks, and I'll be quite checking.

They can search by rules.

They can change the house.

By God, I think it's working.

I said, hey, I asked him whether it was all right.

I said, well, I'm going through the ATM, and I see you're done.

I said, I said, even if you lose it, try it again.

And, uh, because, uh, this, this country, if we could turn that around, don't you think, uh, and then go on the hockey, right, right, I mean, I could say, we want jobs, and we're going to be first in aviation, and, uh, it could have a dramatic effect on, it could have a dramatic effect on SST.

That's an enormous effect on Southern California, as you know.

The more jobs out of SST in Los Angeles and Southern California than in Seattle, if you tell me.

Because all the time you get both of those things, it would just transform the whole psychology of the center.

That's true.

No doubt about that.

It could have been.

That's true.

No question about it.

Well, instead of being defensive all the time, be well worth the risk, well worth it.

You know what I mean?

And, uh, three votes, three votes.

Oh, my God, you know, it was so much good to switch streets that time.

It brings it back.

It was nice to be standing in the grass to vote.

I don't know.

A lot of job issues.

On the job issue, they, uh, they did a reference to the Los Angeles Times.

Supported both.

So I'm all out for him on the job issue.

We'll get him on that.

I don't think Jerry O'Day is really working.

He's going to do well.

And also key to it is to get Aarons.

Because Aarons has the confluence of the Southerners.

You can't work without the Southerners.

It's basically the Southerner Republican Coalition.

And by God, it's the way it has to be.

And it's also the way the future of this country is going to be.

There aren't enough people, basically, in the Republicans.

There aren't enough.

frankly, responsible Republicans in the North and the West to govern.

In order to govern this country, you have to have a coalition of Republicans and Southerners and Democrats.

Now, they call themselves Democrats.

You're wrong.

They've got to be Southerners.

It's got to be.

Because if you don't have that, you can't govern.

That's the way it's been in the past, and that's the way it's going to be in the future.

And they call it the Southern Strategy.

That's just fine.

That's the way it's going to be.

So I told these fellas, you know, that's great.

Play the game.

Jim Eastman, Peter Kallner, and Max McD and so forth.

Real, real guy.

He could play a non-scroll here.

I know he feels wrong about it.

It's mayhem.

He never has, though.

He just won't step up to it.

It's such a great secret, such a decent man, but I'm never going to try to get you to it.

I think of the particular thing, you know, we might get George to it.

He just, he just has never exercised the role he should, especially in the Federation.

I don't know whether you might get him to it.

My dad's son.

He wouldn't hurt me.

He would not be a big deal to me at all.

And I think he'd be kind to it.

He'd be kind to it.

on the great nation's security issues and on the fundamental economic issues that involve conservative, liberal dialogue.

We need you.

And they said, well, on other things that we know very well, that you've got to vote your region, you've got to vote your district, you've got to vote, for example, on the civil rights issues.

And they said, well, here's what we do.

And here's what we do.

Basically, if you're a peace guy, you should be with us all the time.

You've got to keep this country from disarming.

You've got to, or at least second, you've got to keep this country from, you know, basically to meet its international responsibilities.

And that isn't going to happen with Republicans alone.

We've got to have Southern Democrats.

It's going to happen.

In this Congress, you've got 10 million in the collection.

You're back in the country.

It really gets down to the interesting point, you know, the thing about the South.

Probably grew out of the Civil War.

The South, the old standards, the I Party.

They're fighting.

They're bigger guys.

They have more volunteers for the service.

They have more Purple Hearts.

That's a great thing.

That's a great thing in this damn country.

It needs it now.

You had it out through the West.

You had it in the mountains.

You got it out there.

And we have a lot of good television.

And, of course, you've got good people every day.

You've got a hell of a lot of good people in New York State.

But how in the hell can people sit every day and read the New York Times and those horrible television programs and still keep their senses on the East, really?

These, if you want to look at Massachusetts, it's gone.

It's gone, I hear.

The zentral's gone down.

The university's up there.

There are some good people back there.

There's no problem.

Well, you need to take these nuts.

They're about to turn into burpees.

And they refuse to take note of the age of the flag.

Yes, when they were sworn in, they would not take note of the age of the flag, and that's why they were sworn in.

So, he got this whole, he's reverting to now.

And that's what they did to him.

He's reverting to now.

And that's what they did to him.

They're destroyers.

They're, no question, but they're horrible in a bunch of ways.

I don't know if I started to talk about it, but that's what I've been saying.

He might have to talk to him.

I think you could move more away from him.

Maybe I could just call him in and say, look, we need your help.

I would.

That's what I would do.

He's in deep trouble.

He just won't talk to him.

He will not talk to me.

He will not leave me alone.

He won't say anything to anybody.

He's a huge inheritance.

I don't care very much, but I'll be here at least some day.

And he's a DC guy.

He's a golf guy.

But he's all right.

All right.

I'll let him be.

I understand.

There's one other guy that we... Y'all get one more.

Oh, yes.

There's one other guy.

They're going to take on him.

This would be very helpful if you do it.

He's a tough guy.

He's a bit more party than...

That's John Young from Corpus Christi.

He's more popular.

He has a more liberal initiative.

He's got a lot of leftists.

He's also a patriot now.

He's strong and he's overruled.

And you might hear anything about Jerry Ford and Les Eriks.

You've seen a lot about him.

I had checked people's records, but I'm sorry.

But every time I talk to him, I'm with him.

He's a strong man.

He's probably the strongest man in Germany.

The older man is in a kind of position.

What's he look like?

He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a,

John, you know, he's a chattel, but a real good man.

I fight him.

I used to text him the way they do.

I mean, I don't know what you're talking about.

I didn't wait for the president.

I was a gospel critic.

We had all these, you know, texts.

And I'd file them, and this was really good.

And I just called out to him and he just said, you know, it's all about doing that.

And so, you know, he's a fellow that you talk to.

Yeah, I know.

But, you know, we've got a lot of support out of the Texans in that, because there's a ball from Dallas.

No, no, no, there's not.

I don't count.

But, another guy.

He's in Dallas.

Brady Marshall.

Another Texan basketball player.

Jim Collins, where's he from?

Oh, Jim Collins is the one.

This fellow's a Democrat.

He's a borderless son of a bitch.

He's probably dead.

Joe Poole?

No, no, no, no.

Joe Poole.

I know what he said.

Now, this is the guy.

You know him as well.

So I'm under the right.

I'm under the board.

Jim, I'm part of the board.

I'm under there.

Yeah, right.

So he's the...

Yes, Jim.

Well, Jim will be there on the time.

That's right.

He sure will.

So...

I was scheduled to go on another Sunday.

I was scheduled to go to Lima through Sunday for the American Bank.

And I'm going to cancel that.

I don't think I'm going to go on a trip.

So I'm curious.

He does look well after Walker does.

Yeah, he does.

He does look good.

He's got a little shocker since he's trying.

And anyway, they don't feel as bad about it.

However, this is hard for them to consider.

I mean, particularly as a family.

The way that we got into this, that's such a deep thing.

We're going to vote.

Yeah.

We could win that in the House.

Yeah, we can.

If we could win that in the House, we could shake that Senate right down to its foundations.

Yeah, I agree.

How about that?

I mean, that would be a great thing.

This is, if they, they've got to act on it.

She doesn't like her.

They've got to act on the damn bill sometimes.

And so it'll come and it'll go back over and the concrete floor will come up on that old box mark.

Wouldn't it be nice to stick it to that son of a bitch?

He is such a hothead.

He and I will have a real go around this on this lot.

Yeah, I see.

He's on site.

He's got the people again.

Yeah.

Well, I think that's just crazy.

Well, why not?

That's crazy.

What is that part called?

I know that.

I don't know.

Do you ever call him?

I don't know.

I love him.

He's so nice.

I've got a private in California.

Yeah.

Did you ever go there sometime?

I don't think I've ever been there.

Well, I love him.

I'm glad there's a good chance.

Do you, uh, use the place where I retreat?

Yes, sir.

The only place?

Yes, sir.

Well, I'm very close.

If I think of it sometime, it might get, get old, or, uh, turn me on.

That's, uh, that's what I do.

You know, when you, you know, when you just go back around and around, I don't, I couldn't break my mind.

I'm sad.