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Nixon, Korologos & Friedersdorf on Senate legislative strategy

Thursday, May 6, 1971 · 12:10 PM–12:15 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Korologos, Thomas C.; Friedersdorf, Max L.; Timmons, William E.; Moore, Richard A.; MacGregor, Clark; White House photographer; Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation493-011 on Tape 493 (tape position 02:42:25–02:44:38)StartThursday, May 6, 1971 at 12:10 PMEndThursday, May 6, 1971 at 12:15 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 493-011 ↗

President Nixon met with his legislative aides, including Thomas C. Korologos, Max L. Friedersdorf, and William E. Timmons, to acknowledge their work in the Senate and present them with gifts. The brief session included a photo opportunity with the White House photographer to commemorate the staff members' contributions. Following their departure, Ronald L. Ziegler joined the President to briefly discuss a photograph of Nixon's great-great-grandfather, Milhous.

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2:42:41For you to do it, right now, would be something that, throughout the world, everybody would rise up and say, well, that's an instrument.
2:42:49I'm going to work, you know what I mean?
2:42:51She lost her credit, you know?
2:42:52I'll go out there and do something.
2:42:55I'm not stopping all along, doing what the law doesn't tell you to do.
2:43:01That's the crazy thing.
2:43:02You have your problem, sir.
2:43:04These are for money.
2:43:06There's a paper that would do something, anyway.
2:43:16This thing will wash. You're an enthusiast.

On May 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Thomas C. Korologos, Max L. Friedersdorf, William E. Timmons, Richard A. Moore, Clark MacGregor, White House photographer, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:10 pm and 12:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 493-011 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 493-11

Date: May 6, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:10 pm and 12:15 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Thomas C. Korologos, Max L. Friedersdorf, William E. Timmons,
Richard A. Moore, and Clark MacGregor; the White House photographer was present at the
beginning of the meeting

     Friedersdorf’s work in Senate

     Photo session arrangements

     President’s congratulations

     Friedersdorf’s [?] education

     Gifts from President

Korologos, et al. left and Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 12:14 pm

     A picture of the President’s great-great grandfather
          -[Forename unknown] Milhous

Ziegler left at an unknown time before 12:15 pm
  • 493-009 11:00 AM · 24 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Mohammed Ayub Khan, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:00 am and 11:26 am.
  • 002-106 11:06 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Mohammed Ayub Khan talked on the telephone from 11:06 am to 11:07 am.
  • 493-012 12:15 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Arte Johnson, Mrs. Arte Johnson, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:15 pm to 12:22 pm.
  • 493-013 12:22 PM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:22 pm.
  • 493-014 12:22 PM · 10 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John B. Connally, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:22 pm to 12:32 pm.
  • 493-015 12:32 PM · 31 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, Stephen B. Bull, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 1:06 pm.
  • 493-016 1:06 PM · 37 sec — unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:06 pm and 2:30 pm.
  • 493-017 1:06 PM · 17 sec — unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:06 pm and 4:15 pm.

Conversation 493-011, May 6, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/493-011 (accessed October 3, 2026).