On May 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:00 am to 11:45 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 495-009 of the White House Tapes.
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So now what is your figure for 7 minutes?
Roger, tomorrow, if you might ask both to proclaim May 30th, the day before Memorial Day, the day before World War I started, and all Catholic churches, and some more, and things like that, with the Spanish Masses in Washington and St. Patrick's, and set up a Red Mass deal, you know, we're going to be great for that.
turn a lot of people in, and all that would be prepared for you to come to the post.
And I'd say, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm distracted.
You mean, do I actually ask you to do this?
Yeah.
It has to be done at any time, huh?
I don't need to go there to decide.
We don't decide it there.
That's what I'm trying to say.
You ask him to go there.
No, you can't do it.
You can't ask him to do it.
That's the point.
That's the point.
I think it poses the idea of stirring up any more energy that doesn't react to it.
It doesn't really...
But let me say that I think it's realistic in terms of the Catholic hierarchy.
I know the Pope doesn't even breathe without saying the truth.
The whole... That's right.
You see, they have a whole board and office and so forth, and the Pope...
I just...
I think we've got to just not talk about that.
We probably should say that the Pope... We use the Pope, but don't ask the Pope to use him.
Right.
Okay.
I don't know if he mentioned to you on the phone that the Farm Bureau, just kind of when they saw this, that the Farm Bureau of Agents have reunited, excuse me, well, you know, they're cooperating on getting some things done, which they are doing.
They're doing a great job.
They're doing a great job.
Planning has been into and covered that whole business that we've got.
I'm sure it ended up with a clap on the funding treasury underwriting like A.G. Becker.
I think Mitchell Ray's political problem with going to Becker in Chicago.
The comms very much on top of it.
It got through without coming around.
And you can know only that Hayes' input is that Packers should
Simmer down, he's not going to do anything.
Recipient, he leaves for Europe on Monday, and we've gone for 10 days, which is probably just as well.
I've tried to get a comment, and I haven't been able to reach him to find out what we're doing.
Whether he's talking back at this point, he'll call me back in a while.
I have a love of those.
It's not great, but I'm sorry.
I know you need it, but it's terrible.
Ron's possession of Europe is being too much in response to Biden.
Pierpoint and others, you know, they're sweeping away from Africa.
Ron's back's out with a piece of... Yeah, I'm pretty lost.
I'm pretty lost.
If you read this, I just called you to agree.
And she said, when I voted against the war in 65, she said, I know.
I said, okay.
I don't know, but she's delivering on her own.
And she says, you can tell Jerry Ford on this issue that he can call me any time.
You can count on me.
You're going to write me tonight.
It's a disgraceful lawyer.
It's terrible what these people are doing.
And the police were just right.
He says, I was a part of it.
Told them.
They treat you here to the floor.
You have to stand up.
We're not going to handle this.
You're going to get an anti-assist.
We sit here in a bomb shelter, so to speak.
And I said, what happened?
Was it wrong?
Is it valid?
And, uh, you don't get more of an arrest or you get the idea of, oh, Jesus Christ, you know, you, you must get gunshot.
I'm going for it.
Um, don't get gunshot by anything.
God damn it.
Step up.
That's what I mean.
You've got to step up.
Because we're bothering with it anyway.
I mean, he's, he said, well, it was taken, uh, he said it was unconstitutional.
He didn't say that.
Not at all.
Earplugs got way off on this.
Oh, he's laying on the top.
What was the purpose of you and Steven Bradley yesterday?
There was some purpose in that.
Yeah.
Well, Ehrlichman had hit him with Salant and told Salant that Bradley was unbalanced on his news and stuff.
Bradley asked to talk to him.
John asked me to see him, but there's orders to have somebody there.
And we hit him again.
And, uh...
I'm so tripped by that.
Yeah, that's what we think that was going to say.
John, didn't you know that CBS does a job that the rather is the one who appears to go on the most often?
It's kind of a no-brainer.
It doesn't really check.
Well, you get the point there, John.
The reason John does it so well, he's so cold-blooded and tough, and yet he doesn't sound tough.
I mean, many people would think they get that way there.
You know, they're too loud, like Burl Bowl games, too loud.
John just beat Cole Shields.
I guess, rather, in effect, back down.
He said, I can't, he said, I want to know what the charges were.
And I said, I can't, I can't completely disagree.
Actually, I think I'm being fair.
I'm trying to be helpful.
You know, he gave us a long night about how he should recover.
And then, oh, wow, that's bad.
Paul Ann has a motion.
He was under the gun all through the Johnson administration as being a goddamn reactionary Republican.
He said, they called me on the carpet about once every two or three weeks.
We don't call them on the carpet.
I, John, said I called them on the carpet.
Paul Ann asked me about some specific things, and I obviously had to give him an understanding.
He asked if I thought the reporting was accurate and fair for the White House.
That's right.
He said, I don't think it is.
And there's no reason to be late.
That number is not statistically important.
I suppose everybody knows that.
We didn't especially draw it.
I don't know if they run that.
Well, this is definitely an interesting way to go.
One thing at a time.
It is not statistically important.
If it goes on for another check next month, then it becomes statistically important.
That's what I would say.
So I said, what economy was great, the way he came out there swinging, kind of required.
So different from a Kraken, and for that matter, Schultz already addressed they don't speak with conviction.
Most of the Kraken just didn't bother much at all.
What's going on?
Don't worry about it.
What are you really doing, then?
Well, he's talking about, he's, uh, well, it's really, the whole thing was strength.
He's strong, man.
And a smart man, but he'd be pushed on and done.
But he's smart as hell.
He's not going to get out there too far.
But you've got to...
I think, really, that's the great problem we have in the American belief today is the strength is gone.
Oh, that's right.
They just have a lot.
So they get scared.
They start a war.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
What the hell would they have done?
Golly, four hours.
Yeah, no good.
Jesus Christ, what a bunch of zombies that they are.
Really?
Terrible.
They're a few of them.
If we do this, uh, don't get away easy on Monday, I think we're going to have to take Lindsey with us.
And, uh, we're going to look bad if we don't invite her.
I don't know.
I don't know.
And if we could invite Mayor Gibson from Newark also, that takes a little...
But we'll just have no accomplishment unless you...
I don't want any accomplishment.
I just don't want any accomplishment.
I'm not going to have habits.
Well, that's it.
In this way, it ties us to it.
Giving them credit.
That's my idea.
Do you have any interest in following up on the dinner we ever had with the leading economists?
I don't.
I don't want to follow up on that.
The question arises of reconsidering doing a West Point event with the, looking at the basic problem of the Army and whether we ought not to do something to attack the Army.
Well, never mind.
We're doing our job.
One of them, for example, that they're going to talk to you about, one of Brown's folks, is Wright Patterson Field.
That might be a good thing to do on Saturday morning.
I'll hear the ER guys say you should not go to the race.
Mr. Dean, is that correct?
Lord, Price, Scali, Cohen, they want you to go to the race.
Nothing can be gained in the room in the apartment.
There should be an accident, and it's not presidential for the president to attend.
Strange thing.
I was part of it.
I wasn't involved in this discussion.
Yeah, right.
I understand.
It is presidential, sir.
See, why don't you go up there and find out if it's that president you've been seeing?
Oh, no, yes, they did.
They want a good look.
Oh, yes.
It's, uh, Tim Schmiller, I guess.
What is that, that presidential?
It's Tom Jean Presidential.
As long as you're out there.
Ties in, if you weren't there, I can see any one of the problems I see, whether it's the accident, whether it's the kid.
Yeah, but there were very, very, as I understand it, accidents in the latter part of the race.
Oh, look at that.
I had one in the early part of the race.
Yeah.
One of the problems with his friend was spending two days with him, and I had one in the second part of the race.
I had one in the third, and I had one in the fourth.
I don't think who's pushing the armed forces, the Jews and the armed forces.
I just can't stick it up my neck on every God and day.
really Army at this point, because the Army has been, has suffered badly and has struggled all over the land, so.
And the West Point is different than others.
The Marines were battle fatigued and tied to the war, where the West Point guys are, you know, the lean-cut guys, dressed in uniform.
What they're suggesting is simply a parade, not a, you know, another parade, a big deal.
They're just going up and doing, you know, a parade or something.
We could do it.
Yeah, a perfect day would be Saturday, May 29th, which is the day of the Memorial Day weekend.
That's right.
We could do it there.
Make a little, make a five-pound pile of pews.
That's fine.
And our old volunteer army and all that stuff, it probably is worth it.
We're doing stuff today.
All right.
Good.
Go ahead.
Give us a beret and a brief card.
God damn, I'm ready to get it written.
Briefly, if you can.
1,300 words.
1,500 words.
Do it on the beret, rather than in the... Rather than in the...
Yes, sir.
Oh, it's... We know those things, but it's not important if you have anything.
This won't...
They only got something because David was there.
This won't be there.
We'll go.
I'll get one of those for sure.
I don't know what I'm talking about here.
Pete Peterson raises an interesting question, which is the problem with sending Marshall Green to Japan.
I rated him.
Oh, you rated him, okay.
He's concerned about it on the basis of Green won't execute our policies.
Well, I'm going to run into a problem.
Henry is our problem here, even if we don't agree.
I am confident that Rivera will.
Here's where I really think he might have been as a person of us.
A tough, strong Christmas man.
Archie Green.
He is one of the few that can drop over to the side and only get a chance to offer a discussion about what he saw.
I've heard of that.
That's the best place to put it.
That's right.
That's right.
I've told you so many times.
Henry Stowe.
That's such a good guy.
He's a hell of a softie, haven't you?
That's his problem.
I have a professor at Henry's sometimes for the reaction to Western games and all that sort of thing.
Goddamn, they're old.
Japan is just terribly important.
I want more shooting.
Wait a minute, it's busting out.
I want to hear what they're talking about.
I don't have a song ready around.
I don't have anything about it.
I told you about what is a joke.
I don't know what it is, but in terms of Israel, I mean a publicist.
Take a look at Bird Cross and that will show you.
You asked about background, Melissa, did you get enough?
I've got a lot of stuff here if you want.
Cheap books.
Oh, no, I don't want any.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But in finding toughness with compassion, police chief Gary Wilson has begun to reverse Washington's descent into uncontrolled crime.
And goes through, tells all his 14s, about his age, to join the Navy.
Yeah.
Sure is.
He's on a mine sweeper in Anzio, Okinawa.
Came back and finished high school at the age of 20.
And then joined the police force in May of 1949.
He was going to go to law school, and then he saw a message on the police force, and he did.
He started walking the beat and worked his way up.
True.
Eric showed me the alibi.
Showed me what a man can do.
I didn't think it was funny.
I didn't understand how to do it.
And it hurts me to believe all the shit-asses around here who think that education is so important.
The more I think of it, you see that educated bricks are better.
Degrees, the rest, the software, and the housing, they are the less I want around, frankly.
Motivates the force.
He says you don't control the organization, do orders, and then respond to what they see the organization wants.
Now, is Ron back or is he willing to let these people come in?
Yeah, we're going in.
Who are we going to have then?
Us.
The next thing we're...
I'm going in this time.
I'm going in with what I get along the crowd.
That's it.
Let's start with that right now.
We're going to have a big crowd around that office.
The only question is whether we limit it to the chief and the mayor.
or whether we add it to the military.
If you add it to the military, you've got to have, you have to have three, apparently.
The National Guard, the district troops, and the troops that called in.
That kind of then outnumbers, but maybe in the picture-taking thing, you can move it to get a picture just with Wilson or something.
I want to enroll, but we didn't.
That would be it, unless we bring Mitchell
And everybody feels you don't need to, and you should.
Why don't we just bring the chief and the mayor?
See, the chief was in charge of it.
The military reported to him, so you're really hired.
Let's just have the chief and the mayor.
The idea of the military having to be used is not true, but anyway.
The military, we come out of it.
The chief's taking all the heat.
You don't see any military people standing up saying, I issued the orders.
Which is perfectly right.
They did.
They should.
But the public thing is, is still the chief.
And that's, he's what people are looking at.
Okay.
Tuesday, I think, too, you're going to get a better thing than just two.
We have a whole bunch of things.
I have a picture.
You've got to tell another thing.
I guess it's all right.
Again, we have those finance things.
We have 12 staff members in addition to people around the table.
I don't know.
I guess that's the way it is.
We sometimes really have to make decisions, whether it's pretty standard procedure with all those things that might.
Any of those meetings, they always, whether it's us as governors or anybody else, they always read that.
So the result is just a model.
I did one thing.
We're not going to have any more pictures taken in there.
This whole business of having all this press come in and take five minutes and having all those assholes in the press and listening to the chatter and so forth.
I know.
They don't use the thing unless somebody says something's true.
They tell all that hate prediction to the hell out.
None of those meetings are used anyways.
I mean, look.
I don't.
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
I don't.
I mean, I hope Conley has got a deal with him, I guess.
I don't know why he's going to be out there.
Next Tuesday, the vice president is having a group of 206 legislative leaders, speakers, pro tems, majority and minority leaders from the state, in her briefing on the total domestic program.
And they're asking if you would read them.
or meet with them.
I don't want to meet with them.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm not going to have a meeting.
What they would do is they're going to do a lot of sessions, and in fact, I'm going to send them up to the Hill, you know, to work on the Congressman.
And I think, I don't think you should meet with them, and that's not really what they're suggesting.
What they would like to do is hold a meeting in the East Room and you open it, which they can't.
They wouldn't do it in the East Room.
You can't open it.
If you went in and just gave your usual opening pitch, this is a new batch of people.
Five minutes.
I don't need a long speech here.
Right.
That way they can use each room.
Right.
That's not a bad advice at all.
Well, that's what, you know, as we've said, if you want to look now and then, I'm still selling your program.
At least it looks like you are.
Sure.
Sure.
I think that's good for us.
I think getting our good, articulate congressmen out.
It's also good for the public.
It's a foundation for them.
We are troops.
That's a good investment for the National Committee, is what I'm saying.
It's good for us to follow the nation.
It's good for us for the National Committee to send them an evaluation.
Oh, I addressed that in an ethnic conference yesterday.
Thank you.
Did you see the item in the news summary on Reisel's column on me?
You ought to be aware of it.
Rise up before you see me out.
Rise up.
I'm disappointed in speech after speech.
Meaning is denouncing Nixon and mocking Roger Burns as an idiot who would be in Siberia if he were an economic advisor to Russia.
Meaning is flipping up labor's political activists and threatening Nixon with political reprisals in 72.
Not in decades, as labor's top chief travels so much, spoken so curiously, and concentrated so hard on any president.
Those around him say it's an attack on Nixon and his domestic policies, not on the Republican Party or foreign policy.
Labor's theme is Nixon must go.
There's something fierce in the persistency of the meanest thoughts insiders brought with the hard-hatched revenge.
Meaning is taken personally and professionally, Nixon's quite general handling of the construction units.
The 72th purge of the president will come through Koch, which meaning calls justified with the finest political organization in the U.S. That's what drives LSU over the past.
Oh, yes, that's fair.
And that's where people look.
It's not a foreign policy.
Well, if this is good, can you do some, give some help on, like, if you're going to overthrow that SSU thing or something like that?
You've got to ask.
You've got to ask.
Well, Gluter's working with them.
He's got some very good stuff on the, uh, building of the SSU.
Gluter's working with Ford's leaders.
And on that also.
What's his name?
Bolin has agreed to raise the amendment.
I've got to check back with Jerry.
I've got the impression, and I think you did, maybe I misunderstood, or you understood, that he thought there was going to be a house vote of some kind on a date certain.
Yes, actually.
There isn't going to be, apparently.
I've got to go back and check with Jerry.
There's nowhere a date can't go wrong.
Yeah.
I've got a 71 appropriations bill.
I've got to stop at this.
It's a 71, physical 71, and it's supplementary.
Fairly.
I understand.
Not on that.
It isn't your name.
All the action in the House on date certain is a possibility that the Democratic caucus may have another meeting and try to do something.
I got the impression that I'm going to check with Jerry.
Everybody says that there's something on the date certain.
And Jerry doesn't think you should miss.
And Les says the same thing.
Not everything is going to happen.
That's the case.
So whether you're thinking or not, I'm going to put it.
I saw that they certain crap and a lot of this other war stuff as it peeps off, you know, we have some momentum in a way.
On the other hand, it can change in dependency.
We just can't have this billy-dodging around, you know, but I just, I just really, in my head, it's really tough.
I can't have an impression of this meeting and that meeting and so forth.
Things are happening, but nothing is happening.
Right now, it's no turning.
We've got to come up with a plan now.
Yeah.
Three lines, dot the I's, cross the T's.
Pardon me, here's my motion.
It was amazing.
Oh, he was so perceptive with Henry and so hard on him.
He was such a sucker for, uh, your cosmetics.
You were just so sorry for him.
Haig is not, I can sense it.
Haig's, Haig's wife went to see him.
He didn't, Haig, he wasn't taking it for like crap's sake.
Was he?
No.
I talked to him after that.
Huh?
After that, I talked to him.
Did he, did he give anything back to him?
And he just abides by any idea that he's going to have anything on something there.
He just thinks it's the only thing that can happen because the Chinese pull it on three sides.
They want to squeeze it and they're going to make a ring out of it.
to what they do, and that's the good.
Yeah.
By the end of the pandemic, I was told that we were going to form a secondary company.
He feels as though he is terrified.
Well, we are going to be one tenth of a percent down, one tenth of a percent up, and it's basically the same as the spirit of the BOS set, which is historically what happens at the early stages of a stationary economy, because it expands agility and productivity in the first month's time period.
What about the unemployment amongst the blacks here in the area?
Of course there's blacks.
I've talked to them.
Yes, sir.
Oh, hell no.
That's because these people are very educated and they're old.
So, sir, I would forget W.D.
Harris.
Thank you, sir.
Instead, I'd call for the support of those things.
I'd ask around the world to say, well, why don't you just say it to the president and point it out?
I'd get back on Saturday about one minute's advice.
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Well, he's the only one we've got.
I mean, Jesus Christ, there's no one better than Kraken and Charlton.
They're so pitiful.
They just don't, they don't seem to.
You've got some certainly concerned about being honest.
Oh, Christ, yes, right.
They're worried about it.
He uses which implies candor.
Yeah, that's right.
He's wrong.
Sure, no, that's what he was interested in.
What is it?
It's temporary.
It's not a system.
It is.
But then he went on into that.
However, we're going to hear you.
And then when he gets finished with them, the one thing right they pretend to bring to life is the rank of the wall of harm.
That's where I come from.
I don't know if they've got something here.
But you're right.
They do.
I mean, our people ought to be able to get something out of that.
I don't know if they want to.
I don't know.
Did you read the thing on the step right last night?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know that?
That when he does it on there, it's so completely a shift that it sounds good.
I think he probably does.
When he drones on in his usual way, I have a feeling it doesn't have as much effect.
I read that out.
You know, if you're going to go on and it's bad, you're going to go on and it's good.
Yeah.
Well, that was the very first station of mine.
We didn't mention the other one.
Actually, here again, did we have anybody who were there except Ron at the agriculture department this morning?
I mean, any of our salesmen?
Were any of them there?
I had a few of them.
Well, probably not.
But you should always have...
I was over there, and Whittaker was there.
Well, Whittaker is working.
Whittaker and he's got to work on their line.
But they have a lot of good lines.
Oh, this is a great subject.
But they've got to... We've got to solve this.
He brought us...
He actually... That's not news, but that's goddamn good stuff up through the heart of it.
That's good.
I think that's all.
So, let's see.
What about Scott?
Is he over there?
No.
No.
More?
And we get to all the idols.
It's mainly in agriculture.
But it's really totally, because it's not on the other side.
It's a good one.
It's just a good one.
Whatever the hell the idea is, what do we do with the peace?
What do we do with it?
Peace is nothing more than the absence of war.
There's a lot of good stuff in there.
You see, we're on the occasion.
You've got to have to see any of it, because he's a hot newsman.
But a hard newsman, I mean.
You have to always have those occasions, Bob, somebody who can get the nuances of some author.
Otherwise, there's no sense in making the remarks.
Don't you think so?
Yeah.
You have to.
And you will not get it in your profession selection.
Whatever you're going to get, it's the only way you're going to be able to use the right figures on productivity.
Yeah.
You see?
Those are irrelevant.
And I worked that out.
And it's not true.
that really has some sweet lacrosse, and I hope they pick it up.
Well, you forced it at one point, where you went to the cameras and, you know, so then your excerpts unfolded.
What will you owe to these people?
What will you give them?
Peace?
Peace, I think, is an interesting concept, the contribution of the American farmer to world peace.
I mean, you also should put power here, rather than stories.
Or you want to give me a good bridge to that.
Let's just see now, some of our people do.
Why don't you write a prayer for somebody?
See if Wade could recall it.
And, uh, one guy over there, um, just there to do that.
Not you, not Wade.
None of them will get up now.
What you need is a guy out of that whole line, one of the promoters, more than the one in this room.
Mark Goodman.
Mark Goodman.
He has to be there.
He's got to be there.
Mark Goodman.
Scott Goodman.
We've got to understand that.
Yeah.
The thing about that, Bob, is that sort of approach, I mean, I wasn't careful enough.
I had to look at it at the time.
It was literally a button.
And that distinguished one of the stuff that was worked up at the staff, and I hope they did their stuff as fine.
And in fact, what Jefferson Franklin said about the American Army being a terribly poor person, and I said that already,
The fact is that it gets a farmer away from his own selfish little line.
How much am I getting for those sows this year?
How's the weather?
How much is the farm machine going to cost?
But it put him in the big concept that here he is playing a great role in America, a great role in the world.
That's the kind of thing that you always need.
I know some people who go in and just talk about the shit-ass stuff.
You see, like, for example, that Hartman introduction was talking just the way everybody talks to the farmers.
And we increased the amount of money for the research.
We increased the amount of money for the soil conservation people.
That's fine.
Those people are there.
The country doesn't give a goddamn about it.
And I know a lot of the farmers may not.
See?
You look through the, you look through the news, honey.
This is the first day of their reaction.
It's a damn overpowering support.
Oh, yes, it is.
I don't find any except for that shit-ass peer point.
I don't find any of them along the direction of peer point.
We've got to make sure Teddy gets escalated to where he gets caught with.
Are they...
The letter's off the floor.
No, he can't make it.
All right, all right.
Mrs. Green is off the floor.
She said that's the problem with all of this.
She sent us close today.
I see.
Well, somebody would have to worry about all the shit out of it.
And then, it's called the Defense and Security Chief of Police, that's the name of it.
We don't have the Chief of Police.
If you get the Chief of Police on Sunday TV, I don't think they want you down there.
Now that's funny, I just... We were debating whether...
Another thing that we could do, rather than just have the chief and the mayor of the picture, and then they could invite him.
If he wanted, he could invite him.
Remember, people in the camp, or in the night, or in the night, or something like that.
You know, if he wants to really do something, there's a morale factor for his other people.
You know, his battalion commanders or something like that.
Yeah, and the mayor gets a couple of his jackasses.
I wouldn't do that.
The mayor didn't do a goddamn thing.
You've got to have him just to keep him.
He didn't say anything.
Then we don't have him.
He asked me to do that.
But he didn't say anything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, let's ask him.
He might prefer not to.
Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to find the 15, 20 guys.
I'm going to shake your hands.
I'll leave it here first.
I'll leave it there.
I'm going to press it.
I'll leave it there.
I'm going to press it.
Yeah.
I think this can be problematic.
I'll leave it there.
I'll leave it there.
It isn't.
There's three.
First, it's the same shot.
Second, it really is an insult to busy people to have them shoot them and then not use a pitch.
It's true.
Yeah.
Well, we ought to, as we know, we ought to decide what picture we want, and that's the picture we ought to give them, and we ought not to give them the answers.
Remember, they ran one picture, and I'll see you on the poster in four hours.
I don't know if that did that in TV, but...
No.
Didn't get a, didn't get a lot of TV, and not a zilch.
No.
You probably know where you went.
I hope it will cut some lines in the Midwest, in the, you know, in the farm area.
Maybe a little pop this morning.
That's what it is.
I hope there are some good lines here, because there's some generally good stuff.
I've never seen any good lines in there.
I don't know about that.
Go, go into the world, new armies go forth, with plowshares and non-swords and stars and iron, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on,
I will come to you, and I will come to you, and I will come to you, and I will come to you, and I will come to you, and I will come to you, and I will come to you.
Fartin' around, you know, and John Irving, of course, has the men pulling their hands.
So one of the nicest ones, and I remember during the National Armed Men's Administration, we always had three or four, or no, the whole captain was out, you know, trying to help.
They wouldn't really, you know, put an extra burden on the president.
Of course, he was old and everything like this, and he didn't want to make him tired.
He didn't want to make him tired.
But here we are sitting here, and we finally got one guy that could
Let's face it, you want to get a guy who really, really is an advocate for his federalism.
Federalism.
Totally installed his name.
You can't be safe, Stan says.
Stan says, that's right.
Stan says, Stan's locked for a street.
He'll make sure that he doesn't get the shit out of us.
That's right.
He doesn't care.
Stan's so dedicated that he's not going to tell us.
And that was the call you had on him.
He's the only guy that really approaches him.
That's right.
He's Richardson.
For totally different reasons.
Richardson is so irrespective.
I mean, he's an intellectual.
He knows that these are tough decisions.
And he just, he's just Richardson.
You know, the rest of the guys are all, Richardson doesn't have that disaster.
Because he's so eager to stop.
He really is.
And for good reason.
He's a smart guy.
He knows it.
He really is.
And it changes.
But the Captain is complicated to some of it.
Comes on like Angus.
He lights up in the night.
You know, when people said, oh, we can't let old Dave Kennedy out.
We had to let Dave Kennedy out.
We had to let Bob Mayclaw.
One bird is a better man.
Shultz is a better man, right?
No question.
We picked up a rock here.
Shultz is in first place.
I rate him top, too.
I rate him.
He's in the same.
I'm not down to the same thing as him.
But, you know, don't you know that Conley really hurts?
We got the lawyers there, we got the little member of my team.
My team cooked the coffee together.
All of a sudden everybody started to burp a bit and said, what the hell is all this?
Hold on.
We'll be asking about who we can't pay.
And then it comes time.
And Jeff, he just gets up there and says, God damn it, you know?
You should be proud of me supporting this administration.
It isn't advocating historic things.
The president's made it harder for courageous decisions.
I'm just thrilled without fear.
That's what he said.
He said it in a cuss.
And they don't care.
Well, the other guy's saying it in order to get a chance to beat him.
You know what?
They're all thinking of their own goddamn selves.
Actually, that's what we do better than that.
Well, they do more for themselves that way.
Look at how cocky he shot up.
Yes, but it doesn't hurt him a bit when he's a terribly strong man.
And, you know, exactly what he promised the press.
Talks too much further than that.
Right.
And not enough person.
Maybe just his way of, you know, making a little difference.
I'm sure the word gets around.
I think anybody who was there was a congressman.
I just cheered and cheered and said, God, I understand your response.
What kind of a congressman?
I just, you know, sort of thanked and said it was an honor to talk to this guy.
And then he introduced me, and then he introduced Jerry Ward, and he spoke at the end of the term, and all he spoke at the end of the term, I said, well, you're just a secretary.
What kind of a congressman?
I said, I understand your response.
Talking to every congressman.
We're in this business.
We have to deal with it.
Now, three minutes.
He's really a pro.
I feel like he's a hell of a pro.
And he can shift into gear and just go with it.
That's right.
He likes to do it.
It's obvious that he loves it.
He is a country preacher.
He believes people should have been charged with a crime.
You really know what you're talking about.
Yes, we are doing some good things.
And we are.
Get my memorandum.
I didn't get the memorandum.
I got it shared with Trump.
Okay.
I marked it all up.
It's mostly for you.
I got a good plan.
I'm not going to hold on to the four options, man.
Come on.
Two of them.
The main idea is they must report it to the president.
That's where it's going to be hard for them.
You keep it in that kind of ATW and you let them report it to the assistant secretary for help.
You know?
Of course the president's going to be, I'm going to put somebody in charge, maybe.
I mean, why don't I have some coal sometime for a bargain time?
I mean, great, tough, some of it is.
Coal's the best man on that.
He's got better than coal.
Can't go on.
And he's a promotion guy.
He understands just so he knows what I want.
He's a dealer for it.
He's really not playing the game of bureaucrats for bringing that NIH too many acts.
That's the thing that we just have to get that immediate.
In fact, a lot of these things are all going to go down.
I mean, all the White House reception for all of us.
Yeah.
For the people to kick off this thing.
Look, we're going to have $100 million here that we're going to spend.
And we want to get people to contribute and thus have
We won't cancel our cancer program all over the country and have a little school fiction cribbing.
I mean, why not?
All right.
We'll do that for all of you.
We'll do that for all of you.