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Nixon & Trohan on Herbert Hoover and Press relations

Thursday, May 13, 1971 · 1:25 PM–2:15 PM ET · Oval Office · 54 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Trohan, WalterConversation498-009 on Tape 498 (tape position 03:10:52–03:12:15)StartThursday, May 13, 1971 at 1:25 PMEndThursday, May 13, 1971 at 2:15 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 498-009 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417177141 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with journalist Walter Trohan to discuss administrative matters, including the dictation of a personal letter. The pair reviewed comparisons between Nixon's presidency and that of Herbert Hoover, while also addressing concerns regarding press coverage and security. Additionally, the conversation touched upon lighthearted topics such as sports and the Bohemian Grove.

Herbert Hoover
Press relations
Bohemian Grove
Presidential legacy
Sports
Administrative correspondence

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NARA Description

On May 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Walter Trohan met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:25 pm and 2:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 498-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 498-009
Date: May 13, 1971
Time: Unknown between 1:25 pm and 2:15 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President dictated a letter to Walter Trohan
Trohan's note to the President
-The President's schedule
-Bohemian Grove
-Herbert H. Hoover's presidency
-Security concerns
-Press
Jim Fregosi
-Sports

Transcript (AI-generated)

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the water drawing near water.

I greatly appreciated your note with regard to the only clue that your field vector managed far more than Herbert Hooters time.

So over with securing press

And other colors.

REGOS-I, which is a short shot of the color green now.

Sports column 2.

And the pig.

Also recorded on May 13, 1971

498-019 12:20 PM · 23 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:20 pm and 12:50 pm.
057-001 12:22 PM · 29 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John B. Connally, and the Citizens' Committee for Government Reorganization, including James M. Roche, Terry Sanford, Dewey F. Bartlett, John E. Robson, Walter N. Thayer, James Finch, Murray Comarow, Francis A. Coy, Betty Furness, Ben W. Heineman, J. Erik Jonsson, Franklin A. Lindsay, Leonard H. Marks, Newton Minow, Gen. Lauris Norstad, Richard M. Paget, Jack S. Parker, James J. Reynolds, Allen P. Stults, Andrew J. Young, Jr., and the White House photographer, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 12:22 pm to 12:50 pm.
057-002 12:50 PM — unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:50 pm and 4:31 pm.
498-006 12:50 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:50 pm and 1:00 pm.
498-007 12:50 PM · 25 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:50 pm and 1:00 pm.
498-008 1:00 PM · 19 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:00 pm to 1:25 pm.
498-010 1:25 PM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:25 pm and 2:15 pm.
498-011 2:15 PM · 1 hr 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Stephen B. Bull, John D. Ehrlichman, Peter G. Peterson, and James M. Roche met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:15 pm to 3:35 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 498-009, May 13, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417177141). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/498-009 (accessed November 2, 2026).