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Start Date: 18-May-1971 3:06 PM

End Date: 18-May-1971 3:40 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Bull, Stephen B.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:15:20

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:48:49

500a.mp3

500b.mp3

500c.mp3

500d.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 18, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Stephen B. Bull, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:06 pm to 3:40 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 500-025 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 500-25

Date: May 18, 1971
Time: 3:06 pm - 3:40 pm
Location: Oval Office
                                             37

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 9/08)



The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

     Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] negotiations
           -President's meeting with Gerard C. Smith
                 -Postponements
                 -Railroad strike
           -Possible announcement
           -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] position and actions
                 -Possible problems
                       -Wording
                 -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                 -An unnamed advisor [National Security Council staff member?]
                 -Actions during the Lyndon B. Johnson Administration
           -Wording
     -Possible reasons for delay
     -Pierre E. Trudeau's visit to USSR
     -Leonid I. Brezhnev's schedule
     -Trudeau's visit
     -Vladimir S. Semenov, Smith
           -Truck parts agreement [Kama River]
           -Thomas W. (“Teddy”) Gleason
                 -Grain export negotiations
           -Berlin
           -People's Republic of China [PRC]

     Vietnam
          -Casualty figures
               -Cambodian operation
               -Week’s numbers
                     -Decline


     SALT
         -Congress
             -Clark MacGregor
             -Kissinger's memorandum
             -Melvin R. Laird
             -Senate ratification
         -USSR reply
             -Dobrynin
             -Wording
                   -William P. Rogers, Smith
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 9/08)



                           -Antiballistic Missile's [ABM's]
                           -Ronald L. Ziegler, John A. Scali
          -USSR reply
               -Timing
          -Possible announcements
               -Rogers, Laird

     Senate                                                       Conv. No. 500-25 (cont.)
          -End-the-war amendments
          -Hubert H. Humphrey's amendment
               -Draftees
               -Effect
          -Previous presidents
          -Richard B. Russell and colleagues

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:06 pm.

     President's schedule
          -Possible meeting with Robert H. Finch and Donald H. Rumsfeld
          -Time
          -Meeting with Ambassadors
          -Possible meeting with Finch and Rumsfeld

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:40 pm.

               -Report on trip abroad
          -Senators
               -President's staff
               -Position on issues
               -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
               -Charles H. Percy
                     -President's and Kissinger's meeting
                     -A proposal
                           -Charles McC. Mathias Amendment
                     -Position on issues
                           -Lack of support for the President

     Foreign policy objectives and prospects
          -Salt treaty
          -Berlin agreement
          -Middle East
          -PRC
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 9/08)



             -USSR summit
             -Vietnam

Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:06 pm.

     President's schedule
          -Meeting with Finch and Rumsfeld
                 -Time                                           Conv. No. 500-25 (cont.)

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:40 pm.

     Reports to President on trips
         -Finch and Rumsfeld
         -John A. Volpe
         -Maurice H. Stans
         -George W. Romney
         -Finch and Rumsfeld

     Volpe
          -Possible trip
               -Graham A. Martin
               -Talk with Kissinger
          -Diplomatic assignments


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 2m 10s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

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     Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
          -Work as vice president
          -Relations with the press

     Press
             -Treatment of President
                                         40

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 9/08)



           -President's accomplishments
           -Compared with treatment of Lyndon B. Johnson

President's accomplishments
     -Vietnam
            -Troop withdrawals
     -European alliance
     -USSR                                                         Conv. No. 500-25 (cont.)
     -Cuba
     -Jordan
     -Cambodian and Laotian Invasions
     -SALT treaty announcement
            -USSR
                  -Reply
                  -Reply
            -Location
                  -Vienna
     -Berlin agreement
            -Four Powers meeting
            -D[avid] Kenneth Rush
            -Possible US action
     -SALT agreement
            -USSR
                  -Semenov
            -Wording
            -US and USSR bureaucracies
            -ABM
            -Smith’s proposals
     -Trade agreements with USSR
     -Restriction of Cabinet officers’ travel
     -Bryce N. Harlow
            -President's previous meeting with foreign policy establishment
                  -Effect
                        -Presidents John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, Dwight D.
                              Eisenhower
     -Rogers and the State Department
     -MacGregor
     -An unknown event
            -Effect
     -Mansfield Amendment
            -Senate characterized
            -Possible alternatives
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                                 Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 9/08)



               -Administration position
         -Possible re-wording
               -Mathias Amendment
               -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
               -Mutual Balanced Reduction of forces
               -President's role in negotiations
               -Mutual reduction of forces
     -May 18, 1971 meeting with Congressional leaders            Conv. No. 500-25 (cont.)
         -Problems

SALT
    -Possible announcement
         -Timing
               -Press Conference
         -Compared with Lyndon B. Johnson
               -Timing



Sir Keith J. Holyoake
     -Meeting with the President, April 8, 1971
            -Nature of meeting
            -Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr.
            -Kissinger’s attendance
            -Topics of discussion
                 -President’s speech on Southeast Asia, April 7, 1971
                 -Agriculture

MacGregor

Harlow
     -Senate
          -Russell, Lyndon B. Johnson, and Everett M. Dirksen
          -Leaders
          -Democrats
               -Presidential candidates
     -Morning meeting with Republican Congressional leadership, May 18, 1971
     -Mansfield Amendment
     -Mathias Amendment

Senate
     -Mathias
                                               42

                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 9/08)



           -Mathias, Percy, Richard S. Schweiker
           -Jacob K. Javits
           -Republicans
           -Javits
                 -Talk with Kissinger regarding Mathias Amendment
                      -Percy, Mathias
           -Percy
                                                                   Conv. No. 500-25 (cont.)
[The President talked with an unknown person [H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman ?] at an unknown time
between 3:06 pm and 3:40 pm]

[Conversation No. 500-25A]

     Charles W. Colson's location

[End of telephone conversation]

     Colson

     Senate
          -President's relations

Kissinger left at 3:40 pm.