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Start Date: 4-Jun-1971 4:47 PM

End Date: 4-Jun-1971 5:59 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Agnew, Spiro T. (Vice President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")White House operatorFerguson, Homer

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:14:48

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:19:23

512a.mp3

512b.mp3

512b2.mp3

512c.mp3

512d.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, and Homer Ferguson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:47 pm to 5:59 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 512-027 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 512-27

Date: June 4, 1971
Time: 4:47 pm - 5:59 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger

     Dr. Edwin H. Land

     Dr. James R. Schlesinger
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     President’s foreign policy
          -Presentation to President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [PFIAB]

     United States’ relations with Soviet Union
           -Yuli M. Vorontsov
                 -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                 -Meeting with General Alexander M. Haig, Jr., June 4 Conv. No. 512-26 (cont.)
                      -Visa request by White House Fellow
           -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                 -Conversation with President
Vice President Spiro T. Agnew entered at 4:51 pm


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 1m 55s ]


     INTELLIGENCE


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Kissinger left at 4:52 pm

     President’s previous meeting with PFIAB

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at an unknown time after 4:52 pm

     Agnew’s schedule
         -Korea
         -Kissinger
         -Taiwan
         -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
               -US relations
         -Taiwan
         -PRC
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      -US relations
            -Trade
                 -Grain
                 -Strategic Materials
            -Travel
                 -Democrats
-Taiwan
-PRC                                                      Con. No. 512-27 (cont.)
-Japan
-Thailand
-Taiwan
      -Agnew’s forthcoming meeting with Kissinger, June 4
      -United Nations
-Kissinger
      -President’s schedule
            -Tulsa
-Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia
-Australia
-Size of delegation
      -Hugh Scott, Gale W. McGee
-Europe
      -Judy and Kim Agnew
      -Spain, Portugal
-Iran
      -Israel
      -Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi
-Egypt
      -William P. Rogers’ schedule
-Greece
      -Maurice H. Stans
-Romania
-Yugoslavia
-Bulgaria
      -Greek-American community
-Greece
-Spain, Portugal
-Morocco
-Saudi Arabia
-Israel
      -United Arab Republic [UAR]
      -Jordan
-Saudi Arabia
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               -Prince Faisal ibn-Saud

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[National Security]
[Duration: 9s ]
                                                                     Con. No. 512-27 (cont.)
     ISRAEL

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          -Greece
          -Kissinger
               -President
          -South Carolina legislature
               -Revenue sharing
          -Greece
               -Kissinger
               -Possible effect

     New York Times article
         -PRC
         -Stans’ visit to Greece

[The President talked with Kissinger at an unknown time between 4:52 pm and 5:12 pm]

[Conversation No. 512-29A]

     Agnew’s schedule
         -Foreign trip
         -Kissinger
               -President
         -Greece
               -New York Times
         -Foreign trip
               -Morocco
               -Saudi Arabia
               -UAR
               -Saudi Arabia
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                       -Prince Faisal’s conversation with President

[End of telephone conversation]

                -Saudi Arabia
                -Iran
                      -Relations with the US
                                                                      Con. No. 512-27 (cont.)
     State gift from Saudi Arabia

     Unknown man with blue eyes

     US foreign policy

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 14
[National Security]
[Duration: 9s ]


     MIDDLE EAST


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 14

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          -Jewish vote
               -Bernard J. (“Bunny”) Lasker
               -Taft Schreiber

     President’s schedule
          -Agnew, Kissinger
                -Arthur J. Sohmer

Agnew left at 5:12 pm

     Agnew
         -Activities
         -Schedule
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                -PRC
                       -Stans, David M. Kennedy

[The President talked with Kissinger at an unknown time between 5:12 pm and 5:14 pm]

[Conversation No. 512-29B]

     Kissinger’s schedule                                            Con. No. 512-27 (cont.)
          -Agnew, President

[End of telephone conversation]

     Agnew
         -Possible visit to Greece
              -Political effect

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 5:12 pm and
5:14 pm]

[Conversation No. 512-27C]

[See Conversation No. 4-35]

[End of telephone conversation]

Kissinger entered at 5:15 pm

     Agnew
         -Previous meeting with President
              -Greece
              -K. Agnew
              -Iran
              -PRC
              -Taiwan
                    -Chiang Kai-shek

[The President talked with Ferguson between 5:14 pm and 5:17 pm]

[Conversation No. 512-27D]

[See Conversation No. 4-36]
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     Agnew
         -Schedule

[The above portion of the office conversation took place simultaneously with Conversation No.
512-27D]

[End of telephone conversation]
                                                                       Con. No. 512-27 (cont.)
     Ferguson
          -John N. Mitchell
          -Judge [Forename unknown] Cobbs

     Agnew
         -Foreign trip
              -Greece, Taiwan, PRC
              -Conversation with President regarding PRC
              -United Nations [UN]
              -Greece
              -Possible statement regarding Greece
              -Timing
              -Greece
              -Korea
              -South Vietnam
              -Thailand
              -India, Pakistan
              -Malaysia
              -Singapore
              -Indonesia
              -South Vietnam
                     -President’s forthcoming meeting General Nguyen Van Thieu
              -Iran
              -Saudi Arabia
              -Morocco
              -Portugal
              -Spain
              -Kissinger’s schedule
                     -Thailand
              -Countries
              -Kissinger
              -Asia, Europe, Africa
              -Greece
                     -Possible reaction of President’s opponents
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               -Africa
               -Press corps

    President’s foreign policy
         -Vietnam
         -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
         -PRC
         -Vietnam negotiations                                 Con. No. 512-27 (cont.)
               -Scheduling
               -Lieutenant General Vernon A. Walters
               -North Vietnamese contacts with PRC
         -Mao Tse-tung’s possible reception of President
               -Implications
               -Motives
               -PRC communique
         -President’s previous meeting with PFIAB
               -Dr. Franklin D. Murphy
               -PRC, Soviet Union

    Intellectuals
          -Effect of education

    President’s personal qualities of leadership
         -Raymond K. Price, Jr.’s opinion


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 15
[Privacy]
[Duration: 31s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 15

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    Agnew


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 16
[Privacy]
[Duration: 3s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 16
                                                           Con. No. 512-27 (cont.)
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         -Foreign trip
              -PRC

    US-PRC relations
        -President’s possible trip
              -Genghis Khan
        -President’s possible trip to Soviet Union
        -President’s possible trip
              -Timing
        -President’s possible trip to Soviet Union
        -Announcement of SALT
        -Agnew
              -Schedule
                   -President’s 1959 visit to Soviet Union

    Unknown member of Congress
        -Lecture to Council on Foreign Relations
             -Vietnam
             -Motive
        -Murder of Ngo Dinh Diem
        -Lectures
             -Distribution

    President’s foreign policy
         -PRC, Soviet Union
         -Vietnam War
         -General Charles A. J. M. de Gaulle
         -Mao
         -Successes

    Reconnaissance camera
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         -Dr. Land
               -Forthcoming call from Kissinger

    Domestic intelligence
        -Huston Plan
        -J. Edgar Hoover
              -Successor
        -Richard M. Helms                                      Con. No. 512-27 (cont.)
        -Walters


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11
[National Security]
[Duration: 58s ]


    INTELLIGENCE


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11

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    State Department
          -Robert D. Murphy’s views
          -President’s letter to Eisaku Sato
                -Textiles
                -U. Alexis Johnson’s reaction
          -Kennedy’s views
          -Removal of ambassadors
                -Kenneth B. Keating
                     -Activities
                -Gerard C. Smith
                -Keating
          -[David] Kenneth Rush
          -Paul H. Nitze
                -Possible role with administration
                -J. William Fulbright’s views
                -Possible ambassadorship
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           -Economic intelligence
                -Results
           -Kissinger’s visit to Europe
                -Donald H. Rumsfeld, Robert H. Finch
                -Walter H. Annenberg


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                                                           Con. No. 512-27 (cont.)

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13
[National Security]
[Duration: 1m 23s ]


     PAKISTAN


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13

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Kissinger left at 5:47 pm

     Agnew
         -Performance in office


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 17
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 45s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 17

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           -Attacks by liberals, press
           -Attitude
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          -Popular opinion

     President’s schedule
          -Water project
                -Upcoming trip to Tulsa, Oklahoma

     Chief Justice
                                                                       Con. No. 512-27 (cont.)
     Presidential airplane
          -Name
          -Designation

     President’s schedule
          -Demonstrators
          -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] graduation
                -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.’s conversation with Hoover
          -Tulsa
          -Haldeman’s schedule
                -Son’s graduation
          -Background material

Haldeman left at 5:59 pm